Not one but two the wagon is full of good news.

glaskham, DS (19 months) has been chasing me round with his shoes and the keys to the backdoor today he's not subtle

Its been hammering it down all day and I don't have any wellies for him....suppose I could have let him out in his sandals as they would have dried out, maybe I'm a bit of a stick in the mud? Blasted weather has made today very tedious!

Feeling very stroppy, tearful and bloated so a fair sign AF is once more imminent. If she arrives again then I'm definitly booking an appt with the doctor as this will be six unsuccessful cycles and I have endometriosis so want to talk about it sooner rather than later.

Speaking of appts, I also have my consultant appt booked with ENT dept to look at getting my tonsills removed..its in beg. of August. I hadn't really given any thought to the fact they won't be able to do it if I'm pregnant but I'm not going to stop trying for that!

I've got a dental hospital appt coming up as well - perhaps I should a tonsillectomy and dental deep clean all at the same time and under full sedation!

Gruffalo- it is worth it.... i think we all just got a bit stir-crazy (myself & kids) as we normally go out at the weekends to get the kids some fresh air, other than the nursery run each day we rarely get time to do anything else in the week so we'd all been stuck in the house since monday really...

We went to my mums as the sun came out at 11ish, and they were little angels!! dd fell over and has cut her finger open though, and wont keep a plaster on it... so keep checking it, its still covered in blood though (after 3hrs) and she wont let me clean it... hopefully she'll put it in the bath and it'll clean up.

So YES IT IS WORTH IT!!! I wouldn't be doing it all again if it wasn't!!

Sounds like a good time was had by all, although as soon as fists start flying that's normally when I want to leave...

A good hen do needs to be eventful though

Hi Ses

Glad you had a good time at the wedding and had a good drink!

We were on a party bus for the hen night with another hen night downstairs and upstairs with us were a drunken stag party. The very first journey there were lots of stripping from them and many bum bearing escapades and unfortuneately the stag was sitting right next to me and my pregnant friend. When we got up, both of us had our bottoms slapped by which we weren't amused (both stone cold sober and stag and co were not attractive )

Our hen party were up to various drunken antics including one girl who was dared in the second bar we visited to get one of the stag party to give them their boxer shorts which he did in the middle of the dance floor and got chucked out for indecent exposure! He then promptly decked the bouncer (albeit later after he had been let back in after our hen had a word with the bouncer about the dare)and proceeded in getting the whole stag party chucked off the party bus! Phew I better stop before this turns into an essay!

Eventful though

Hi all! Back from wedding in Brighton and had a really good time. Nice good and a good party afterwards and both brides looked fab - on ein a gorgeous shocking pink party dress and the other in a bronze coloured corset top and trousers. I confess I did make the most of being able to drink.... and well why not!!

LB - thinking of you [hugs]

Gruffalo - do spill on your "eventful" hen do!

Diege - I'm sitting here watching the mens final at the moment and Nadal is playing well but sorry I'd still like Federer to win!

Hi all,

I have not long got up after my hen night out in London last night. It was quite eventful!I actually got a lift back early with a pregnant friend as I couldn't last any longer. Got home 1.30, in bed for 2pm. I didn't drink though so am feeling ok now.

So sorry lardy for all your troubles, but you sound very strong and I know you well get this sorted. Good luck!

Glask and Diege, your dc sound a bit of a handful, but it's all worth it right???

DH has gone on a very long bike ride in the rain, the nutter. Just for fun

I need to work on my dissertation today but don't want to!grrr!

Morning . Sounds like you had a good time last night Tinks! Wow, 12.30am!! Don't remember the last time I saw that time!
Hi Glaskham - sympathies of the trashed bedroom front - have a similar scenario to go and deal with myself in a moment (there ate noises...)I also worry about new baby and tantrumming toddler. dd3 has one or two a day, but remember dd2's lasting till age 4 (still has the odd one at 5) so on that reasoning I'd be into my 40s before ttc no.4. Me and dh have decided that we are really going to try and be calmer and less shouty - hard when you're both tired, but it does seem better when we can 'stand back' a bit from their screeching/whining and put it into perspective. My children sound delightful don't they .
More marking for me today - I am seriously starting to lose the will to live...and of course the highlight of the day Nadal in the men's final ...
Oh and a guilty confession...spent £306 in the mini boden sale Couldn't stop once I'd started, although it is going to be funded by the marking money so not as bad as it sounds!
LB, hope you were OK last night - was thinking of you - and will post as soon as you can to let us know how you got on

morning

had a great time @ the wedding and was mostly dry which was very lucky. did lots of dancing in eve and didnt go to bed till 12:30pm.
had a lay in and going to relax today
have scan @ 9:20am tom cant believe it.

lb you are being sensible about situation so sorry that it talks to you like that.

bb gr8 to hear from you sounds like you are being very healthy good luck

morning all....

LB sorry to hear of your troubles yesterday, glad diege was here for you, you know what is right and wrong and if he does it again i know you've got the strength to walk away from it, you and your children dont need that sort of behaviour from the man who is supposed to love you all. Be strong and hope things work out!!

BB hello, nice to 'see' you (however brief) hope going back on the pill helps your cycle, lets keep our fingers crossed it does the trick and you'll be back pg in no time!!

GYo my DH was like that last month, kept saying 'you could be eating for two' 'dont wanna risk it just in case your pg' sort of thing.... he was really adamant we were, this month we both dont feel we are... but you never know eh!!??

Iwas going to take the kids out today, maybe go to the park or something but its peeing it down, and they trashed their room (very silently i may add) this morning, ripped the curtains down, ruined video cases and ripped some of my things that were in a drawer in there!! wasn't happy at all, so have confiscated lots of toys for bad punishment!!

Also yesterday while i was making tea DS ruined a present i got off my great grandma (who is close to the end of her years as i type) and ripped a little bit on one of the portrait pictures we bought of them, so i wasn't impressed!! AND WE WANT ANOTHER???? i swear if he carries on like this we'll probs stop ttc for a while... his terrible 2's are coming very late!! he was a little gem until recently!!

Evening everyone, just dropping into say hi. Been stripping walls all day and have got loads done.

LL I am sorry to hear about the bust up with DP. I know abusive rows very well and its just awful, and I can imagine hell if your pg and not feeling well. Please keep posting here - and vent, dont bottle up. You are stronger than you think. Take care.

Welcome Dinky and Congrats on the job Ses!

I'm having up and down today on the 2WW. Nearly bought some tests in Sains last night but couldnt do it- think I didnt want the temptation in the house, but during today I've somehow decided that Im not going to get a BFP. Its funny, but a feeling I have.... And DH is seeming really keen and keeps commenting on it [hmmm]

Another 6 days to wait.

Evening all, PIL have now left so got 2 seconds to myself for a catch up.

LB, sorry you've had such a stressful day but glad Diege was here for you x and (((((hugs))))

Ses, if I don't get on tomorrow good luck for your Monday test, fingers crossed for a BFN!

BB, lovely to see you, albeit briefly, everone's promised not to leave me so we'll all be here whenever you're able to come back!

Teuch, how do you know this stuff? I love it

Good luck for tonight . You are definitely approaching this the right way, and you're right in facing it head on. Strike while the iron's hot, however stressful, and whatever happens you'll know that you were true to yourself and doing the best thing for your dd and beanie .

Aww Lardy. I think you are approaching this very sensibly by writing things down and approaching things practically. It's harder for him to ignore things and change the subject if they are in black and white. Regarding you giving up working Saturdays, I think this is a bit of a red herring tbh. It's as if he's blaming your work for the problems you're having, whereas you would have another set of problems if you gave up work. And esp if it's not doable with your work anyway, then I think that stops that one straight away. Tis good that you're looking at where he can contribute more, otherwise it again looks like you're sitting down to see how YOU can manaage things better (when it looks like you are doing brilliantly - it's he who has the problems!!). I would be a teeny bit concerned about how easy it has been for him to 'forget' his comments and make light of them; he obviously has a lot of anger issues pent up that get directed verbally at you. You are right not to let this pass as it needs sorting asap.
Good luck! You are a strong woman, and you have the weight of the wagon behind you!!!!

OH LB, this is definitely a time for thread hugs I know it's hard to tell from your postings alone, but it really does sound like you're in an abusive relationship...the comments your dh made are, as Cosmo says, a reflection of his own 'issues' and screwed up mind. I feel very, very for you, as I have been in a similar relationship many years ago where the same things were said to me. He's trying to get you scared by mentioning custody issues etc, and this is real bullying that you shouldn't have to put up with. Do you have family/close friends that you could confide in? I remember keeping everything to myself as I felt really embarrassed about it all, but that's what men like that want you to do . Sorry if this all sounds negative, but your post did trigger off warning bells to say the least. And what an awful thing for you to deal with when feeling so rough too.
Don't you dare leave the thread - I feel especially close to you on this thread, and you really helped me when I felt so awful about that Nov 05 thread business. Keep strong, and we are all here for you .
I think you would also get some excellent adviceif you posted in 'relationships', as sadly this sort of thing is all too common .
SES, many congrats on the job - excellent news! Enjoy your wedding recpetion, and you too Tinks?
BB, good to hear from you. Sorry that things are difficult at the moment, with work and ttc. It does sound like you have a strategy in hand though, so fingers crossed things will work themselves good soon! Does sound like a new job is much needed!
Hi to all - have a banging headache here - weather related I think.
Speak later, diege xxx

Thanks for your responses to my Q ladies x

LB - So sorry to hear you are having to go through such a tough time. Please don't feel you have to leave us though, if it helps to vent on her about what you are going through, please do. We will all be hear to listen and give advice where we can. Be strong for you, DD and bump, and don't listen to what DP is saying. Sounds like he is trying to blame you for his own issues.

BB - I know we don't do hugs but (( )) Good to see you! Of course we haven't forgotten about you. You are the founder of this brilliant thread after all. Look forward to seeing you back f/t before too long. Sounds like you are doing the right thing for your body and sure all will be working as normal before you know it.

Hey BB!! Sorry to hear you've been having such a tough time. V impressed with your health regime! Look forward to welcoming you back when you're happily pg in 2-3 months. Should hopefully be about the same timing for me if all goes ok!!

guess whos back back again.....

well long time no see.;..flying visit/update im afraid...

turns out i may be having more porbs than i thought, had another immese cycle still not had AF but got to CD 67 and thought fuck it i cant take this anymore, so put self back onto pill for a few months in the hope of getting cycle back to normal.Maty also change jobs,a s work isnt helping - super stressful, wishing i was dead rather than going, doctor said its either change jobs or get signed off!!! Have also embarked on health regime, now going to an exercise class once a week, not having bread during the week, getting on my exercise bike etc....

Hope all is well with everyone, not even sure anyone will remember me but hope so! not strong enough at this point in time to come back properly, but i will be back when im pg, sowith any luck see you all in 2-3 months

much love to all of you - cosmo, playing, NJ, Kays, diege, teuch, Lardy, star, Pop, glask, ses, gruffalo..and anyone else ive forgotten - from an upbeat and hopeful,

BB xx

LB - I agree with Teuch. Don't go. Your DP sounds like he is being abusive and if we can help by listening / advice then please stay. It certainly sounds like you need to try and talk to him about your relationship and his behaviour so that you can think about your options. Thinking of you.....

Lardy Don't go - we are here to support you. If you don't want to discuss on here then we can have another thread. We can't help if you are not here.

That is an appalling way to speak to anyone. You need to know that you are not deserving of that treatment and that you are not trapped. There are options, but the heat of the moment is not the right time to try and think them through.

Can you arrange for him to drop DD with someone you trust later?

Morning all

Cal - in fact all DH came home and said he was cooking so all I had to do was dump bagged salad and cherry toms in a bowl make exciting salad side dish...

Cosmo - as I understand it (well if my reading of Zita West is correct!) they will live for up to 72 hours (I guess depending on you EWCM). Not sure what they do

Well I have acupuncture in about half an hour, so I ought to go and eat something..

Enjoy your days all! Hope the car comes back Nat!

hullo all!

I was getting loads of movement but now I am getting hardly any I wondered if it was just because uterus was still a bit squashed and now ther is more space/different position?

Cosmo - the sperm go all the way up the fallopian tubes and that is where conception occurs. Apparently (here comes the science!) they make their way up there, nestle down in the tiny fibres (or suchlike) where they can survive and then when ovulation occurs they are 'set free' to race to the egg I assume if you have ovulated already then they just meet it on the road, so to speak. Then fertilised egg makes way down tube to uterus which can take a week or more.

Hope that helps! I remember NJ having a great link on the very first thread but I can't find it just now...