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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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Semen Analysis - any ideas?

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pinkmook · 17/05/2008 07:02

Hi everyone, managed for the first time to get somewhere with our doctor yesterday! He let us have a photocopy of DH's semen analysis (he had a vasectomy reversal last July and we were told he had about a 40% chance of fathering again which is the lower end of the success level of such operations)

The results dont look great and have spent all night stressing over it so.....can anyone with any experience or knowledge help me and tell me if its possible to conceive naturally with these numbers:

Motility = 20%
count= 11.3 million/ml
morphology = 8.9% normal.

I understand that fertile sperm should be more than 50% motile, count greater than 20.0 x10^6/ml and 15% or more normal motility

So please if someone could tell me can we conceive with these low numbers??

yours not very hopefully

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pinkmook · 03/06/2008 17:35

Xerial - yes more than once in day??? loooong looong ago I remeber the days when we could manage it 6 times in a day...he's lucky now to get 6 times a month

tousletop - next stages for us are blood tests (lh fsh, tft all that stuff) a procedure where they inject dye into my reproductive bits (poss called a lap and dye - not sure) and for DH a more detailed sperm analysis looking at sperm antibodies

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xserialshopper · 03/06/2008 10:27

I remember having sex more than once a day...... but that was when in the first year of marriage, 9 years ago

How are you Pink? I think I'm going to do BD every other day other my peak period. If that doesn't work the following month we'll do every day straight for 5 days over the peak period

tousletop · 03/06/2008 08:59

Thanks PM.
So I suppose, like everything to do with this baby making thing, no-one really knows!
We started off having lots and lots of sex throughout fertile time when ttc DD, and it was only when we reduced things to every other day that we got lucky (but obviously its not working this time...)
Are there people out there who manage more then once daily when ttc????
Hope all going well with fertility specialists, what are they planning next (if you don't mind me asking)?

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pinkmook · 02/06/2008 21:31

Hi tousletop - so you conceived dd with those poor sperm results in 6m??

Wow thats really giving me hope!

I have read conflicting ideas re: how much bonking with crap sperm - some say NO MORE than every other night.

Zita West says thats bollocks (all beit crap sperm filled bollocks ) and that you should d it every day during fertile window but not more than once per day (no chance in my case )

When we saw the fertility consultant last tuesday he said 2-3 times per week during fertile and non fertile times was fine

Sorry probably just confused you more!

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tousletop · 02/06/2008 13:22

Hello
PM - my DH had quite similar sperm results to the ones you posted - produced a few more, but they were less motile, and the morphology was much the same. Our GP also told us it was a normal result! It only took 6 months before our DD was conceived, but we've been trying that long for number 2 already.
Also on all the supplements....
Has anyone been told how often to BD with poor swimmers?

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pinkmook · 30/05/2008 16:02

Really Laughung OUt Loud

You better get to it. those sticks wont pee on themselves

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xserialshopper · 30/05/2008 14:30

Pink - I've got 6 boxes of 30 test sticks each So I've just got to use them

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pinkmook · 30/05/2008 12:35

Already got pre-seed! It looks like a flipping chemists under my bed at the mo with LH sticks HCG sticks, pre-seed....

You sound like you're all set for this month Xserial, you go girl!

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xserialshopper · 30/05/2008 12:26

I'm fine. Waiting for af to finish. I've got my clearblue fertility monitor and test sticks ready.......... Lots of bd this month I think, including days 16, 18, and 20

I'll keep an eye on you in the vrs thread. I've got everything crossed for you.

Oh yeh, get some pre seed from www.babymad.com £9.95 for 6 with free postage.
xxxxxx

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pinkmook · 30/05/2008 12:05

Hi Xserial I am on vasectomy reversal success?? thread how are you doing?

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xserialshopper · 30/05/2008 11:27

Pink where are you? How are you doing? Which thread are you on so that I can track you down and keep up with you?

terrier141 · 27/05/2008 09:59

Hooray - a vasectomy reversal success story - just what we wanted to hear - miracles can happen!! Thanks for cheering me up no end!

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pinkmook · 27/05/2008 08:17

We are trying (re: lots of sex!) but with my irregular cycles its hard to time it right - and I physically/mentally cant do it every single day (or even every other day for 2/3rds of a month!!)

Thanks for giving me a bit of hope though

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SofiaAmes · 27/05/2008 08:13

Dh's sperm tests were a little closer to post op than your dh's, but they told him that it must be because his reversal had scarred over. They were wrong. Just make sure you are having lots of sex (according to doctor friend of mine, lack thereof is #1 reason for no pregnancy)!!!

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pinkmook · 27/05/2008 07:52

SofiaAmes - I LOVE posts like this

but I do very quickly go back to thinking "I will not be so lucky"

DH has had 2 sperm tests now one 3 months post op and one recntly (about 10 months post op) we never had sight of the first test but the doc said it was "fine low side of normal" which I seriously doubted so we had the most recent one and asked to see it and as you can see from the first post in this thread - is far from normal!

I just hope his reversal has not started to scar over

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SofiaAmes · 27/05/2008 07:41

My dh had a vasectomy reversal in order for us to have children. The first sperm test showed a few non-motile sperm and the second showed absolutely no sperm dead or alive. What the doctor didn't tell us was that this could change over time (months). He suggested that we try again privately and do invitro at the same time as the redo on the "resurectomy" (as my brother called it). So we liquidated some funds, got married and went on honeymoon and prepared to start the whole process (hormone shots etc.) when we got back. Well, guess what, I got pregnant on our wedding night. And then 12 months after ds was born I got pregnant again with dd after only one month of trying. We never did go back and get dh's sperm tested again since clearly someone got it wrong and what was the point after the fact. I'm just angry that no one ever clearly explained that there was possibility that the results that they were quoting us were not fixed and could change with time. Luckily we found out before I got shot up with tons of hormones, dh had another major operation and we spent a small fortune.
Anyway, good luck, we are living proof that there is hope even if they tell you that you have no sperm.

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pinkmook · 27/05/2008 07:01

Ha ha! yep its just us with sub standard sperm I think

I had some spotting yesterday (cd22 and either 4dpo or 6 dpo depending which line I belive that FF has drawn!)

Cant be implantation so I am probably going to come on in the next few days and that means I didn't ovulate (again) Boo.

so Ive got crap sperm and shite eggs....I'm doing well aren't I?

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xserialshopper · 26/05/2008 21:37

Thanks Pink.

Is this just mine and your thread?

Seems like everyone elses sperm problems are sorted then

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pinkmook · 26/05/2008 18:34

ps bad luck about AF - good luck with the clomid x

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pinkmook · 26/05/2008 18:33

I am going as we have been TTC since October last year and my cycles have varied between 23 days and 56 days plus dh's sperm results are so bad I am hoping we can get a referal to a urologist and maybe get him looked at too (fingers crossed emoticon!)

I helped my DS (also 6! getting scary now!) do a similar task!

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xserialshopper · 26/05/2008 13:07

Yes Pink I am up to something nice this bank holiday ...... helping my ds aged 6 clean up his bedroom Turning the heat on and staying in the house is our lot this bank holiday.

Af got me yesterday - Sunday. I'm going to take clomid again this month but not bd undil day 12, 14, 16, 18 or, if dh can hang on day 14, 16, 18, 20, and 22

What are you seeing your consultant about (if you don't mind me asking)? I'm going to have my right tube unblocked in August. Me thinks my dh is beyond help it's all down to me

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pinkmook · 25/05/2008 13:13

Hmmm its scary isnt it that you get so desperate for a "miracle cure" you can end up giving them something that makes it worse

Ahhh there the story falls down - Dh parents both still very much alive and still married much to their mutual annoyance (unless its an elaborate ruse....)

Fertlity freind jusr mved my ov day from day 15 - to day 17 more waiting now! Luckily managed to get 2 shags after I thought I had ov'd on day 15 - lucky huh!

I am going to see the consultant on Tuseday - v excited and nervous and hope I manage to remember to ask everything important!

Are you up to anything nice this bank hol weekend?

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xserialshopper · 25/05/2008 10:16

Thanks for that Pink. Yeh, I did some 'research' on SP as well. I have decided against giving it to dh as if the zinc, seleium, flaxseed, vit c.........doesn't increase those little swimmers and turn them into superheros, then I'm sure nothing will

Now, back to dh. Is your dh's parents divorced and his father has passed away?!!!!! I don't know how he does it 2 wives

Well I'm still waiting or AF but actually I think she's due tomorrow because today is cd28. I've always been regular 26-28 days but since I did take clomid last month I will just have to wait and see.

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pinkmook · 24/05/2008 08:55

SAW PALMETTO - just wanted to post this here as I decided to look into what saw palmetto is used for as I have bought some after reccomendation on here - very worrying info is what I found - please read if you have bought SP or are planning on buying it -look at table 3 in this article:

SAW PALMETTO

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pinkmook · 23/05/2008 16:03

No! that is too spooky! I would post a pic if it didn't reveal my identity - yes 6ft yes slight male pattern baldness - dark hair, a bit mediterrainian looking???

yes the proxeed was v expensive but i was feeling v desperate and sad when I bought it online

I am on cd17 but cycles been loopy since TTC, had 1x23day 1x56day several 31's and a 29! - having said that though FF thinks I ovulated on cd15 and I have had very sore boobs/nips since then (only had this once before and I understand this is a sign of ovulation so I am hopeful I have ovulated this month and that I will have a fairly normal length cycle!

Will keep an eye out for you - let me know if you get your bfp

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