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Vasectomy reversal success??

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terrier141 · 13/05/2008 14:40

Does anyone have experience of this? Hubby has just had it done and we are nervously awaiting the outcome!

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pixiejazz · 24/02/2009 22:12

Thanks both, sounds really reassuring will pass that on to my dh and hope it makes him feel a little less nervous!! Consultation day after tomorrow so hoping that we come home feeling a little bit more in the know as op booked for four weeks time!
Hope the healing process continues to go ok and fingers crossed for some good news in the near future!

Sorrento · 24/02/2009 21:24

Blimey sunshine that sounds hard work alround, my DH is sat playing his PS and seems happy as, the general knocked him about a bit but his actual manhood doesn't seem to be troubling him, although he is drugged up.

Any news anyone ???

sunshineday · 24/02/2009 21:14

Hi Sorrento how is dh tonight? hope everything is ok.

pixiejazz dh was told to wear 2 pairs of the brief style underwear day and night for the first 10 days and the just during the day for the following week to give support. Dh was told to take 3 weeks of work as he has a very heavy lifting type of job, but to be honest he is board now and wishes he was back in work. He thinks he is well enough to go back to work now but they wont let him as he has a infection now. Dh was told to spend the first 3 days lying down as apposed to sitting up so as not to put any pressure on himself. (although walking around is fine) I encouraged him to get his own drinks ect just to keep him mobile. I kept everything in reach so the was no bending or stretching. ( but my dh had a blood clot two years a go so cant afford not to keep mobile iyswim)

Sorrento · 23/02/2009 22:15

Have just spoken to him, he is wearing a padded cod piece and sounds bright enough, he's booked an interview and an assessment centre for next monday so it doesn't sound like he's planning to stay in bed for long.
I can't imagine for a moment it's any worse than the vasectomy itself, can you ?

pixiejazz · 23/02/2009 20:58

Good luck Sorrento hope all goes well this evening!
Sunshine how is your dh feeling? How long has he been instructed to rest for? My dh is a little worried thinking that he'll be bed bound for months! I'm sure that armed with a little bell he'll milk it for all its worth!
Any words of wisdom that I can pass on to him would be greatly received I'm sure!

sunshineday · 23/02/2009 16:44

Sorrento good luck to your dh for his op this evening.

my dh is recovering well he has an infection but nothing the antibiotics wont deal with. hope every one else is ok.

Sorrento · 23/02/2009 13:17

The big day today, he's off for the op this evening, I'm more nervous than him lol
Fingers crossed

pixiejazz · 17/02/2009 08:58

Thanks for the welcome all. Looks like you guys really know your stuff all seems a little complicated to me!!
Consultation next thursday and hoping that the consultant can offer dh some words of wisdom. He's terrified and sure that something awful is gonna happen to him, trying to reassure him without sounding as if I'm belittling him but I'm no doctor!
Well, onwards and upwards!
Stay happy, keep smiling!

pinkmook · 14/02/2009 17:59

Yes my printouts also state "15.7 mil/ml (or 18.3 or whtever) but the private consultant explained it to us and thats the overall count...I could be wrong bout yours and both the gp and the nhs consultant interpreted it like you and I but apparently not....but like I said maybe yours is different. Try not to worry about anti bodies just yet. Give the 3 months of vits and then ask the consultant for a more detailed analysis that includes anti-bodies...if you've not caught by then

terrier141 · 14/02/2009 14:30

Thanks pink - god now im really confused! Think I need to see consultant again! That is really odd about the concentration though, cos like you said it states million/ml which I took to mean how many million were in each ml! Really looks like it would be because the guidelines on the bottom are in the same format.
Now you got me worried about antibodies though cos dh's morphology and motility are both crap too!
Guess I'll wait the 3 mths and see what happens, but will as consultant about antibodies in the meantime as the gp is crap!
Thanks again!

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pinkmook · 14/02/2009 12:37

I should add that anti-bodies dont completely stop sperm from moving (as my last post seems to suggest) for example, in the test that showed 11.7 million sperm there was 20% motility and 10% normal morhology...but although we didn't know it at the time there was 100% of the sperm bound with antibodies which stops them being able to penetrate an egg. Now I need to find out where the anti-bodies are attached to (head, midsection or tail) as this also makes a big difference to things. God who knew I would end up knowing sooo much about sperm! LOL!

pinkmook · 14/02/2009 12:26

The reason I asked you to post that is, when the gp and even the nhs consultant, fed back the results to dh and I, he stated that the total count was the count per ml if you get what I mean. Like on dh's most recent nhs analysis they said he has 15.7mil per mil (had gone up to 18.3 at private test - yay!) and on the printout it looks like this but when we went to the private clinic he spent some time explaining the rsults from the sperm test they did there and it turns out that that 15.7 is divided by the number of milliletres, so in that sperm test that was 5.23 mil per ml (who guidelines are 20 million per ml) (therefore your dh's are prob 9 mil per ml)I picked up on this and was angry and upset as you can imagine that we had been misinformed for so long :-( So it looks like your DH results are still double what my dh's were at 15 months post op so that really positive!

Yes the anti-bodies were a problem, apparently at least 70% of reversal men have anti-sperm antibodies, so for the gp to say ts not an issue is utter...well..bollocks! When you look into what anti-bodies do to sperm, I knew in my heart of hearts that dh n
must have them as they affect motility/morphology and DH's were both bad, but you trust the consultant! How stupid was I! DH has 100% antibodies so none of the little buggers can move!

I think you are right, I would get your dh on the vits and re-test in 3 months. But once you have got to about 18 months trying I would ask to be referred. Good luck hun! xx

terrier141 · 14/02/2009 12:15

Just did a it of internet research - looks like it is usually between 12-24mths for things to be any good - although it can take up to 82mths to achieve pregnancy!!

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terrier141 · 14/02/2009 11:55

Thanks pink.

Here goes:
Appearance: Normal
Liquefication (within 1 hour): Complete
Consistency: Viscous
pH: 7.9
Round/WBC (million/ml): 0
Volume (ml): 3.2
Concentration (million/ml): 27.0
Morphology/normal (%): 8
Motility (A- rapid progressive%): 0
Motility (B- sluggish progessive): 1
Motility (C- Non progressive): 15
Motility (D- Immotile): 84

Think the amount is fine, he produced 3.2ml and needs to be at least 2ml?

Thanks for the vitamin advice! Will get to the shops asap (I'll tell him its his valentines day present!)
What do you reckon on improvement though? Cant really remember what the consultant told us - think he said around 12-18mths was average to reach potential?
What do you think about testing for anti-bodies? Wasnt this an issue in your case?

Thank you Dr.Pink!!

xx

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pinkmook · 14/02/2009 11:11

Hey terrier thats great! 27 mil is more than dh had at 10 months so must be good! Does it say anywhere how many milliletres of seminal fluid were produced as this is important. If poss can you type up exactly what the results sheet says even if it makes no sense? then I can have a proper see whats going on?

As for improving things he needs to take zinc 3 times per day a really high dosage, L-carnytine, L arginine, selenium, vit e, B12 and vit c. Or something like zita west mens fertility tablets (but they are soooo expensive) Eating a handful of brazil nuts every day (i put em in dh lunch box) and only BDing every other day.

Try and get the exact results up and I will examine more closely xxxxxxxxxx

terrier141 · 14/02/2009 10:37

forgot to add pink, that I did ask gp about anti-bodies test, but he didnt think there was an issue ?? not sure why he's assuming that as I know that its a big thing to consider with reversals

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terrier141 · 14/02/2009 10:35

sorrento - glad you are feeling more positive, sounds promising about the job too!

sunshine - make sure dh has plenty of rest, my dh was back in work after a week (much to my dismay! - he cant sit still!)

pink - heres where you get to analyse results for me - if you dont mind!
Dont think its completely hopeless - am hoping you'll tell me things could still improve (and grateful for any tips on how to do this!)

Here goes - concentration 27million (which I know is good!), then it goes really downhill - morphology 8%, motility (A-rapid progressive) 0%, motility (B- sluggish progressive) 1%, motility (C-non progressive) 15%, motility (D-immotile) 84%

So basically what gp said was sperm count is great, but its very poor quality, shape and size not great and havent learnt to swim again yet! He advises copying results to consultant for his advice and repeating sperm test in 3mths.
Problem is dh smokes, drinks (neither excessively) and is under a lot of stress at work.
We are at 10mth mark now, so not really sure how much more improvement we can expect? What do you think?
I am in a right state at the moment, but think that the 10mths of ovualtion kits and pregnancy tests, along with all my imaginary symptoms have really left their mark on me. At least now I am more realistic and hopefully wont expect to get pregnant any time soon!
Gp was talking about IVF but tbh I wasnt in the mood for listening. Will do the repeat test in 3 mths and take it from there.

Sorry for the mega long post girls (again!)
xx

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sunshineday · 13/02/2009 18:19

Sorrento 3 weeks he has been given of by his dr. hopefully he will get bored and go back sooner lol

pinkmook · 13/02/2009 17:49

aww chris evans baby is a cutey, obvs gets his looks from his mum LOL! Glad you are feeling more positive x

Sorrento · 13/02/2009 15:17

Well he's through to final interview on the 19th and booked in for the op on the 23rd so I guess if it's meant to be in he goes if not well at least we won't have wasted money we don't have.
I am a lot more positive today, my kitchens looking amazing, the bathroom is nearly there. I know it sounds daft but I would like to have a baby the way most people have a baby, with their house around them, people being happy for them and all being good in their relationship, it's not much to ask is it well hopefully some of the boxes are now ticked

Did everyone see Chris Evan's baby ? What a stunner, am broody again lol

pinkmook · 13/02/2009 12:49

oh that sounds encouraging sunshine, how long does he have off work?

sunshineday · 13/02/2009 11:34

hi pixiejazz good luck with the op

welsh pleased your scan went well

Sorrento good luck on the 23

terrier good luck with you results today

hope everything is ok with you pink

dh is doing very well after his op does not seem to be in to much pain.

pinkmook · 13/02/2009 10:19

ha ha! yeah I'm sure you'd be able to work it out if it was a half sibling bringing bunch of flowers up the garden path....or at least I'm hoping so

Theres no getting away from it, for most of us on this blasted thread its a bloody misery, but we'll all get through it one way or another. sorrento, it must be really stressful for you at the mo, i know we are in similar situation though dh has a job now but like you said to me, think long term . fingers crossed for everyone. xxx

terrier141 · 13/02/2009 08:10

Welcome on board pixie - good luck with the op - and I know what you mean time does weem to go so slowly when you are waiting!

Sorrento - wish there was something I could say to cheer you up - all I can offer is to say "you are welcome to be miserable with me!" Think we all go through that quite a lot on this thread - it seems so unfair! Really hope it all works out for you and your dh can find work soon.

Welsh - congratulations, another milestone reached - Im so happy for you!

Sunshine - hows the patient today?

Got my results today - so fingers crossed! Not feeling too optimistic, but hoping thats just down to the state of my mind lately!
xx

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Sorrento · 12/02/2009 22:24

Congratulations Welsh, that's wonderful news am tickled pink for you

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