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Vasectomy reversal success??

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terrier141 · 13/05/2008 14:40

Does anyone have experience of this? Hubby has just had it done and we are nervously awaiting the outcome!

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Sorrento · 26/03/2009 20:45

Any news from you pink ? How are things progressing ?

pinkmook · 26/03/2009 16:31

Good luck sorrento xxxxxxxx

sunshineday · 25/03/2009 15:38

Sorrento it good you have a date to aim for now, hopefully the time will fly by.

Sorrento · 25/03/2009 14:20

Wow we have a date, I am to start down reg in May around the 23rd which seems like a million years away and is a bit depressing but at least we're getting there, something to aim for.
So looks like I'll be pregnant in June and having a March baby, everyone is born in March on my mums side of the family.
Added bonus being I can fly to Oz for Christmas so need to start saving up for that now and I can bring back a bugaboo for 2/3's of the price, it's all good !

3kidz · 23/03/2009 16:26

oh no I know that I looked into it I never expected him to I realise that we would have to pay and don't expect otherwise why should I/we be treated any differently.

His exact words were that because it had been done so long ago it really wouldn't work and that the heartache it would cause trying isn't worth it and that is word for word seriously.

Although we looked into statistics I think because those exact words come from the gp my partner now thinks thats it end of the road.

Could try to persuade him otherwise but I haven't pushed a huge debate as appointment was last fri and his gran died a few days prior and funeral arrangements etc are being made and although her death was expected after a long illness it didn't seem really appropriate.

I have today looked up success stories from people who hve gone on to have a baby after a reversal that was more than 10 yrs ago but I guess to a point I'm clutching at straws??

Don't get me wrong I really want this but money is a big issue if I had my way we would fund it come what may but I think thats another thing my partnr is worrying about as gp has been so unpositive about it.

Will discuss it more with him over the next few days

Sorrento · 23/03/2009 16:03

How can the GP know that ?
I would go and see a consultant and get a 2nd opinion, there is absolutely no way a GP can say it will not work and there are other options too if you were of a mind to look into them.
What the GP means is that he won't fund it which is another matter altogether.

3kidz · 23/03/2009 11:57

been reading with interest and wish you all lots of luck.

Me and OH have been together for 4 yrs I have 3 kids from my first marriage and he has 3 from his first marriage so 6 between us However I can't help but hope/wish/pray for a child of our own together a bit selfish I know as we both already hve kids.I am 32 he is 42 so quite a gap between us.He had the snip after his last child with his ex wife.

I knew from early on he had had the op done and it didn't bother me until last yr I didn't say anything to him for fear of upsetting him but this year he brought it up himself and said he wanted a baby with me I was chuffed.

He saw his gp last week who said it wasn't worth paying for it and all the heart ache it would cause and as it was just over 10 yrs since the original op the chances of conception were really low.I did look into it so knew that really but it's the fact that it was my partner that booked the gp appointment and who wanted it then there was no discussion gp said it categorically wouldn't work so thats it

suppose i hoped he would do it anyway and a miracle would happen feel gutted but what can I do I love him and it looks like it's him and our kids from previous relationships or I move on and I can't as I love him too much.Tryng hard to accept that statistics were agaianst us and it is saving us from pain but can't help but wonder what if..........

good luck and lots of hugs to you all going down this route yourselves

donste · 20/03/2009 20:13

I do feel lucky having 2 boys as I was such a horror when I hit my teens and my mam always said to me "just you wait till you have daughter and she turns out like you".
My MIL had 6 so she can't really say alot....you have me thinking maybes I should just stick with the 2 then..lol.
I do have days when I think 'really could I cope with another' but then another day I will be proper yearning for another. My 2 are now 7 and 4 soon to be 8 and 5 as they were both April babies. I just get this panic feeling that if I am going to do it then it just has to be now so there is not a huge age difference.

Sorrento · 20/03/2009 19:47

This will sound mental as I want another one but if I could have my time again I'd only have 2.
I sort of feel as if I've cooked my goose anyway by having the third so might as well have 4th because I miss the baby stage, but if i'd stuck with 2 I think I'd have long moved on by now as most of my friends with 2 have.
Financially it will make a huge difference it's much worse than going from one to two.
But of course it might be a girl which would be fantastic or he might be the next prime minister
I want another girl if anybody was giving me a choice but I feel if it's a boy then for DH it was worthwhile if that makes sense, I know if it's another girl MIL will be like what was the point of that then
My mother also thinks I'm mad lol

donste · 20/03/2009 19:41

That sounds so like my mother. She believes 2 is enough for anyone but more and more people are having 3 children. I have a freind who has 3 and she has actually told me not to go ahead as she has regretted having her 3rd. (obviously would not be without him now). Then I get the people who say it is becaause I crave having a girl - I have 2 boys - but I really don't think that is it.

Sorrento · 20/03/2009 19:29

I have three already aged 8, 6 and 4.
I would say two is very easy compared to three and not wanting to put you off but everything is geared towards 2 children and it will cost you significantly more to have that third child, hence why going for the 4th won't make much difference to me because we already have to book 2 hotel rooms for example.

I did nag and I know that won't work for everyone but I feel there's no point in going in softly softly when it's so important because I should have had a dicky fit when he was arranging the vasectomy and I didn't and look where that got me.

We've been seriously discussing this and agreeing to go for it since August last year, we met with the consultant together in October, decided ICSI was the best option in November and we're now at the point where the sperm has been retrived and if I'm lucky I'll start down regulation in April and embryo's implanted in either May or July.
I have decided though assuming I get enough eggs, 2 at least then I am having 2 goes and if that doesn't work then I shall draw a line under this and move on.
Feel free to chat away, I can't tell anyone either as my MIL will go mental when she finds out, she thought the third child was 2 too many, she only had the one.

donste · 20/03/2009 19:21

How many children have you got Sorrento? I don't really like talking to others about it as many of my friends and work collegues can't have any so I am really lucky I have 2 but I feel incomplete. My DH just thinks that 2 is enough but the fact he went to speak to the GP shows he cares how I fell about it. He did start to say though that we made the decision to get the snip in the first place for a reason....but I reminded him that life changes and so do people....not quite sure what he thinks at the moment though as haven't talked about it for a few days as sometimes I do go on and on and I don't want to completely P him off.
How long has it taken you to get to the stage your at now? Then what happens next?

WelshSuprise · 20/03/2009 19:17

Hi Donste, My DH admitted he felt we'd made a mistake when we went out for dinner one evening and just blurted it out after seeing a baby at the table next to us. I was shocked he felt that way to be honest as he was always very matter a fact about the whole thing and hadn't mentioned anything up till that point.

We saw our GP on the 18th June for a referral, consultation was end of June and op was done on 11th July so within 2 weeks after initially seeing him. Each surgeon has their own set of success rates so ask what theirs is at the consultation and how many times a year they perform the op.

You'll find this thread so helpful with any questions you've got. I've met some lovely ladies on here and it's great to share your feelings with them knowing they're all going through the same thing

Sorrento · 20/03/2009 19:13

We're almost at the collect eggs and put them inside me stage, have spent £2k and if I said to DH stop now i've changed my mind he'd be more than fine about it.

I think it took 4 years of going on about it and then when I realised we were near the point of no return then he agreed because much as he doesn't want another, he doesn't mind that much if we do so as it care falls 80% to me anyway i'm being allowed my baby
I think if I ever moan about morning sickness, or pregnancy or say i'm fed up with the baby he'll swing for me though

donste · 20/03/2009 17:30

I thought I was going mad...I really did. I also thought I was the only person that has felt this way and I was trying to stop myself feeling like this by telling anyone who would listen how much I did not want another baby and 2 were enough for me. Welshsurprise, would you recommend your surgeon then?
Did everyones DH just accept that they had made a mistake or were they all willing to go straight in for the reversal? My DH did say about a year ago "give it time, then you will just get over it". But now after 2 years he is thinking "hang on aminute maybes she is in turmoil about this".
What do you recommend for our next step? A visit to the surgeon together or back to our GP? (Who wasn't that knowledgeable to start with.
Also how quickly, usually do they say you can get it done from the time of the consultation?

WelshSuprise · 20/03/2009 13:08

Hi donste, Just noticed your post and reminds me quite a bit of my own story. DH had a vasectomy as I had a difficult birth with DD and we were adamant we didn't want any more children. Fast forward 5 years and like you we decided we'd made a terrible mistake so DH went for his reversal in July last year.

I've never heard of the consultants you've mentioned but as for the tubes being burnt there is no problem getting that fixed as that was how DH's initial op was done.

As for the sperm test you are mentioning, they test after 3 months to see if the op has been a success. Before this, they dont get an accurate result due to inflammation and the fact it can take the body up to 3 months to start producing new sperm. I think you may be talking about the test they do as the op is being performed which is they keep cutting the tube until they find the live sperm. This doesn't mean the op will work though if you see what I mean.

Sorrento · 20/03/2009 12:20

Donste, that's why i went for ICSI have a look at www.fertilityfriends.co.uk loads of information on there, basically I needed to know that as our only problem was getting sperm from A to B that somebody could put it there for me, the reversal and waiting and then TTC would have driven me nuts but then Welshie did get pregnant within 3 months of her DH's reversal.
We've had many a sleepless night here, all good preparation for when the bubs arrive

donste · 20/03/2009 07:33

Hi Sunshineday, when you went to see DR Dawson for the op did he not test the spermt straight after the op? He says in his website that he does? We have been referred to a BMI hospital near us for a Dr Mr John Kelleher, Mr Neil Haldar,Mr Amarjit Bdesha, or Mr Jonathan Greenland, they all work between 3 hospitals which are very near us. Has anyone heard or used any of them? I was awake again most of the night which is becoming a regualar occurance for me now. It just keeps going round and round in my head....how deos everyone else cope with there turmoil and especially there own thoughts? I am going to drive myself mad!!!

donste · 19/03/2009 20:38

Hi,

Thnks for those responses. The doctor just gave us the consultants name and hospital so never even referred us really.
He never mentioned the whole ICSI thing...Whats all that about then? I feel like I have this choking in my throat when I think about what we did (having the vasectomy). The morning my DH went in for it I was still asleep. (We were in Cyprus and so he had to be driven 2hr journey away). I woke up just as the door was slamming closed. I knew then that it was the wrong decision. I ran to try to catch him but he had alrady driven away....his phone was switched off. I don't think I will ever get over it. I feel this sense of urgency that I have to do something as time is ticking and the age gap is widening. Both times I fell pregnant I fell within days of coming off the pill but not sure if this matters at all.

sunshineday · 19/03/2009 20:12

hi donste my dh had a vr in Feb 09 with a Dr Dawson in hartlepool. the original vas was done 6 years ago he had his tubes burnt as well. On one side the tubes could not be re-connected as they had been burnt to far apart, the other side has been connected, we are just waiting to do his first sample in may (I think it is). and fingers crossed we will get pg soon.

Sorrento · 19/03/2009 20:07

The reversals are very hit and miss, you'll have to pay for it yourself and it can take 2 years before the full sperm quota is reached, that was what put me off as like you our other child is 4 years already so a 5 year gap was the minimum we were looking at.
The first step is a referal from your GP to a private consultant, I couldn't bear the wait and uncertainty so am going for ICSI where they take his sperm and grow it with my eggs in a petra dish.

donste · 19/03/2009 19:35

Hi All,

I have been reading thorugh your threads and wondered if anyone can give me alittle advise please. My DH had a vasectomy about 2 years ago after my 2nd child was ill in holspital at 1yr old due to pnemonia. We both said we couldn't go through it again and he went to see doctor regards to having the snip. Within a week he had an appointment for a few weeks time (little one was still ill) and he went ahead with it. I wasn't spoken to at all by a doctor or asked a single question. Anyhow, I have regretted almost instantly as little on is now 4 yrs old and that illness time came and went and we came out the other end. As the time goes on and I keep getting the fellings of longing fo another child they seem to get worse everytime. I am 32yrs old and my DH is 36 so I think we are still really young. I have been doing loads of searches on the internet about the reversals and my DH went to the doctor to see if he could get it on the NHS but was told they have stopped doing them. Can anyone give advise on what I should do, where we should go etc??? I thought that if we go and book a consultation with a doctor then that may be the first step.....I am just in turmoil at the moment.....maybes the doctor can't perform the op as I am sure his vasectomy was the one where they burn the tubes (does that make a difference??). I would be so grateful for anyones reply......cheers

pinkmook · 18/03/2009 22:25

Yes i've been given a breakdown of the costs and the drugs for one cycle are about £550 IIRC.

you might be right about the gene pool thing Ive only got 1 (child) so a few more would be good LOL!

Sorrento · 18/03/2009 19:40

Pink - have you been told how much the drugs cost, that might influence how patient I have to be

Maybe because I have sooooo many kids already I'm more concerned about my gene pool expanding to the ridiculous lol

pinkmook · 18/03/2009 18:36

its a nightmare isnt it sorrento? I dont seem to have a ny qualms about the potential 1/2 sibling, not really sure why, just doesnt bother me...i keep questioning why but cant work it out! I think partly its almost narcissistic in that I LIKE the idea of my genes continuing on even if I fail, and I'm convicned who ever got the eggs would be good parents as the process and costs involved just dont add up to some one crap.

You just have to go with your gut in these situation s as theres no right answer, my gut feeling as soon as the egg share co-ordinator explained was to gamble and give them all away but who knows how I'd feel when it comes down to it?? I have to decide now s she said the time when they will need the answer if it comes to it, is when you are coming round from sedation!

My blood tests also take 4 weeks but Ive just ovulated so not sure how it works?? although she did say i can start on either day 1 or day 21 of cycle but a couple of weeks either dont make that much difference to me. I've waited solong anyway a few more weeks is nothing.

Just go with your gut x

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