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Vasectomy reversal success??

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terrier141 · 13/05/2008 14:40

Does anyone have experience of this? Hubby has just had it done and we are nervously awaiting the outcome!

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purpledazzle · 07/01/2009 21:25

sorry havent been in touch lately.
My boyfriend went to the docs yesterday to discuss results but all he said was he has no expertise and to speak to the consultant who did the op. Will try and get him to do this soon. It might not be a total failure as op was only 2 months ago and have heard can take up to 12 months for sperm to return. Might be clutching at straws but i think thats what we all do.

hope everyone else having more luck and terrier men do tend to get scared of being a dissapointment and find it hard to perform under pressure just let him come to you and try bot to let on or tell him you ov just before your af that might fool him.

pinkmook · 06/01/2009 19:38

ah well at least he's randy some of the time! I didn't think you'd be able to do the stopping for a couple of months thing Xmas Grin I can very easily remeber how I felt half way into all this (about 9 months ago!) and stopping for 2 months wouldn't have been an option! Its funny but it doesn't seem too hard a thought now...I guess thats good, shows I am moving on a bit and coming to terms with the worst! xx

terrier141 · 06/01/2009 18:19

Dont know why thats on there twice!

Wheres purple?? Hope shes okay xx

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terrier141 · 06/01/2009 18:17

Thanks for your support girls - it has really helped cheer me up!

Pink - I know you are feeling quite down about the whole ttc thing, but try to stay positive about the clomid - its definately worth a shot - does sound rather awful though. I can totally understand the time limit thing too and think you are very sensible as it could end up destroying your life if you let it dominate everything forever. I would get a dog anyway though - dont wait - I find my puppy takes up so much of my time and "motherly love!" that it takes my mind off the ttc for much of the day. Im also getting lots of exercise from walking her for 2 hrs a day (have lost a stone since getting her!).
As for the advice you gave me about forgetting about ttc for 2mths - its not gonna happen - cant forget for a day! Though Im less obsessed than in the begining. Dh has returned almost to his usual randy self as he thinks hes in the clear for this month. Probably is anyway as I ov'd on Sat.

Sunshine - chase that clinic!! Surely they cant be THAT busy - make a nuisance of yourself!

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terrier141 · 06/01/2009 18:15

Thanks for your support girls - it has really helped cheer me up!

Pink - I know you are feeling quite down about the whole ttc thing, but try to stay positive about the clomid - its definately worth a shot - does sound rather awful though. I can totally understand the time limit thing too and think you are very sensible as it could end up destroying your life if you let it dominate everything forever. I would get a dog anyway though - dont wait - I find my puppy takes up so much of my time and "motherly love!" that it takes my mind off the ttc for much of the day. Im also getting lots of exercise from walking her for 2 hrs a day (have lost a stone since getting her!).
As for the advice you gave me about forgetting about ttc for 2mths - its not gonna happen - cant forget for a day! Though Im less obsessed than in the begining. Dh has returned almost to his usual randy self as he thinks hes in the clear for this month. Probably is anyway as I ov'd on Sat.

Sunshine - chase that clinic!! Surely they cant be THAT busy - make a nuisance of yourself!

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pinkmook · 05/01/2009 16:08

Hi terrier - I have been through very similar times with DH and I got very depressed but then all the other stuff happened with him getting made redundant and it kind of got forgotten about and seems to be ok (fingers crossed!) at the moment. I think this has to be one of the hardest things Ive ever been through and I am guessing you feel similar! Theres no easy answers to any of it I dont think. The only thing I could suggest is completely forgetting about TTC for say, 2 months??? Could you do that?

Well I am suffering the worst headaches ever whilst tking clomid I dont htink it'll work, why would it? But I guess I have to at least give it a shot. DH and I have decided we must now put a time limit on TTC. I really thought i was pregnant this cycle just gone and was really devastated when af came and I just cant go through this indefinitley. In fact I am pretty sure its probably not going to hppen but I will do everything possible before we give up (i.e IUI/IVF) We have decided on no more than 2 years from now - probably more likely 18 months. Then I am going to get a dog instead!! Sounds stupid but it helps me cope.

sunshineday · 05/01/2009 14:59

I'm sorry terrier this is happening to you. Maybe hubby is reluctant to get a sperm test done in case it confirms his fears of having a low/no sperm count and is worried it will hurt u to much by getting this result? as for bd maybe a week or to rest then try again. lots of positive thoughts and baby dust sent your way

dh vr op is on the 3 march and yes I agree it seems a long wait for a private clinic. dh has been offered a reversal on the nhs just before Christmas but it could take anything from 6-12 months for the op appointment to come through and they dont do the micro surgery. I did a silly thing on ebay to day and got a £5 psychic reading done. she told me she could see no children for me especially over the next 12 months.
not something I would normally do and I have learnt my lesson wont be doing it again, still left me felling a bit flat though.

sorry about the long waffle.

terrier141 · 05/01/2009 11:52

Hi girls, hope you all had a good xmas and new year!

Sunshine - sorry i've not kept up with where everyones at - what are you getting done in March? Is it the VR? If so then March does seem an awfully long time to wait for a private op - think I would be chasing it! Or are you having other tests? Sorry i've just lost track of everyone (how rude of me!)

Well its official ladies - i am well and truly,never ever in a million years gonna get a BFP cos even if the VR has worked (which by the way we STILL dont know cos DH hasnt bothered to have his sperm tests!!), I will never ever get pregnant because you have to have SEX for that to happen!!
Why is it that dh is a randy old goat for the rest of the month, but when it counts, he cant, or cant be bothered (Have experienced both this month!)to perform the necessary!
I have tried not letting him know when Im due to ov - but he seems to know.
We have been down the "do you really want a baby?", "Well do you think I would've gone through the op!" route of arguing, I've cried, I've tried all the tricks of seduction I can possibly dream up (I mean REALLY pushed the boat out!), but he cant (sometimes), or wont (other times!) do the business!
Can you tell im just a little bit pissed off at the moment?!

Sorry girls - rant over!

Hows everyone else bearing up? xx

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sunshineday · 04/01/2009 19:11

Hi pink hope you had a good Christmas and new year.

I'm driving dh mad talking about having another baby! ( and baby names) I have even asked him to ring the clinic to see if there are any cancellations he just laughs at me being so inpatient. March seems so long to wait.

pinkmook · 04/01/2009 19:03

hello (echoes) where is everyone???????

pinkmook · 30/12/2008 20:06

why did the second half of my "very" in "very unlikely" end up there!!!?

pinkmook · 30/12/2008 19:54

Glad you're feeling a bit more optimistic purpledazzle - its a bumpy ride isn't it?

Well girls, I went bck to see the consultant today and after I rang up and complained about the horrible guy who I saw last time who shouted at me and they promised not to book me in with him again....guess who walked in when I went for my app!? Yep the horrible doctor I asked not to see again! I can only guess the consultant I did want to see was off for some reason and Ive ended up with him, but it scuppered any chance of getting the questions anwered he wouldn't/couldn't answer last time so I had to make do with getting him to do me a referral letter to private clinic for the next stage...IVF...scary! He also gave me clomid so I'll give that a go and see how mental I can make my hormones (s if they need making any worse LOL)

He lso said DH's anti sperm anti bodies were f9ine i.e there were none - which frankly I dfind very hrd to believe as whats the explanation for the poor morhpology/motility if not antisperm antibodies (and apparently 70% of men with vasectomy reversals have anttisperm antibodies) so it seems ve

Any way hows everyone else?ry unlikely. But I guess I'll have to wait til my appointment with a private consultant in order to get some proper answers He was so annoying this consultant - when I asked for a copy of DH's latest sperm test results he refused to give them to me so I asked him stright - why not and he wouldn't answer just kept shaking his head and sying "no, no,no,no no" arrrrgghh! So I said well Mr Abdo (the first - and nice - consultnt I saw let me have a copy. Then he said OK then I'll let you write them down - and read them to me

purpledazzle · 29/12/2008 21:10

thanks for that i need to stay optimistic and not get down about it. have given my boyfriend his marching orders about speaking to the doctor. i know gp's can be rubbish and not know a lot so i have advised him to speak to the consultant aswell. hopefully they can recommend something. I will also do a bit more internet research about it. hope everyone else ok and feeling relaxed after christmas. it goes so quick all that preparation and one day and its over. think i will get vouchers for everyone next year as have been in the shops today and all half price. typical!!!

WelshChristmas · 24/12/2008 15:03

hi purpledazzle, so sorry to hear your news. I used to find a site called ask doctor on vasectomy reversal really helpful. Just type that into google and it should come up. He answers a lot of questions on low / negative sperm counts etc.. and I found most of my answers through that rather than our own consultant ( who was a waste of time ! )

One thing I think he does suggest is if you have had the results done before the 6 month mark, you may be able to improve the swelling of the vas tubes by taking anti inflammatory drugs but PLEASE check it out first to make sure I'm remembering correctly !!

Just remember it's still really early days and we were told by our consultant that some people can get a negative count at 3 months but then go on to have something at 6 months so try and stay positive xx

pinkmook · 24/12/2008 07:16

Hi Purpledazzle - you must feel devastated but I am pretty sure that t can go from zero to ok. It is something to do with the swelling of the vas following the op which can take a good long time to go down sometimes. My Dh's 1st sperm test at 3 months was about 4.5 mil/ml (i know more than zero) but his subsequent ones were about 11mil/ml at 6 months ish then 15.7 at about 12 months. We are hoping it will increase again.

I do know you have to wait anything from 12 months to 2 years (I think depending on the consultant) to have the op declared a failure - which tells you it can take time sometiimes.

HTH

purpledazzle · 23/12/2008 20:57

have just had some really bad news today is three months since my boyfriends reversal and the sperm test came back negative. am completely disheartened and have no idea what to do. ivf is so expensive and would take forever to save up for meanwhile is it possible to have a negative then a positive? i hope so.

pinkmook · 23/12/2008 16:01

Dont worry welsh - I know you wouldnt not put it here on purpose I guess I am clutching at straws as Terrier says!

I also feel much friskier earlier in my cycle but my temp only goes up after about day 15/16/17 so I guess I must be ovulating later on - its so confuing I am not sure me or DH could manage every other day throughout the cycle as DH is working 10 hour days sotimes 7 days a week as his new job is so poorly paid we have to.

Terrier - the IVF will cost approx £5000 becuase if you have sperm issues you have to have ICSI as well as IVF. Although we may see if we can try a couple of goes at IUI first which is about £500-900 a go.

PLease keep posting here linz, we may be jealous (well i am )but you are our beacon of hope

terrier141 · 23/12/2008 15:05

Thanks Marge thats a lovely story to keep our spirits up! I know its still classed as early days for us (8mths since op) but cant help feeling it would have happened by now if it had worked

welsh - you know we'll try anything on this thread - clutch at any straws!! Just keep updating us on how your getting on, and pass on any snippets of advice from others on the "pregnancy" board!

Have a lovely xmas everyone XX

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marge2 · 23/12/2008 13:07

My DH's worked within 26 days!! He had had vasectomy 10 years previously. I was 36 he was 44 we were told that with our ages and the long time between vasectomy and reversal that we only had someting like 30% chance of successs. Weren't we pleased when 26 days later I was preggers??. We have two boys now ...and he has had another vasectomy. He's a brave boy!!

WelshChristmas · 23/12/2008 13:01

Hi girls, really sorry for posting on there and not on here aswell . I knew you did the temp charting etc.. so thought it wouldn't be of any help x

Pink, I never charted my temps so can't tell you if they went back up later in my cycle, sorry. I just went off what FF was telling me basically based on the length of my cycle and when I thought I was having CM.

I just happened to notice that straight after AF finished I had EWCM ( more than when I technically should have been having around CD14 ) and ahem... I was always slightly more frisky around this time too .

It was only at the dating scan that I worked the dates backwards and figured out it matched exactly with the EWCM around CD 8 so we were well missing the fertile slot every month. That must have been why I got a BFP a week before AF was even due !!

Hope this helps xx You know I definately would have posted on here if I thought it would have been any use to you girls but if I think of anything else I will always post on this one x

terrier141 · 23/12/2008 08:21

Pink - I only noticed welsh's post cos im really nosy and read a thread I know one of my best friends is on (she does know this btw!), and happened to spot Welsh's post there. I dont read those ttc threads anymore either - I did join a few in the begining but god it gets so depressing!
Am very interested in what welsh said though, because despite all the charting etc we may actually be completely missing our chances (there is also a thread on here where someone conceived really late in cycle too!). This month dh and I have agreed to just cover all bases, Im gonna try for every other day and hope for the best.
Can I be really cheeky and ask how much the IVF will cost please? I'd really like to look into it but dh is dead against because he says its too traumatic, the more info im armed with the better I can sell the idea to him - saying that I cant imagine where the money would come from!!

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pinkmook · 22/12/2008 20:07

Welsh - just read the post terrier referred to about early OV (any more advice like that please please post on here as I dont read TTC threads - find it too depressing being the only one left on there with no BFP every month! and wouldnt have seen this valuable info without terrier pointing it out )

Can I ask you a Q about that. I often get EWCM at the same time as you mention (days 8 and 9 this cycle) but am assuming I still on ov later on as my temp doesn't go up til day 16 or so. Did your temp only go up at day 15 (based on FF prediciting ov day 14) or did it go up at day 9??????

please please notice this and answer Am really really intrigued and worried about this Hope you doing OK btw

terrier141 · 22/12/2008 15:00

Welsh - just read your post on another thread about your early ov!! I think my dh is gonna be worn out next month!! xx

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terrier141 · 22/12/2008 14:47

Sorry girls - no xmas announcment from me - spiteful AF arrived yesterday - nasty witch .
Was really hoping for an extra special xmas pressie but I guess it wasnt to be - never mind i ought to be used to it by now.

Pink - dont give up hope, and I agree what a lovely hope story - just what we need to keep our spirits up over Xmas - talking of spirits - as we have no reason to abstain - would you care to join me in a virtual xmas drink?? Mines a large one!

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pinkmook · 21/12/2008 18:09

Thanks Sofia (what a beautiful name BTW) I love a good hope story

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