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Vasectomy reversal success??

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terrier141 · 13/05/2008 14:40

Does anyone have experience of this? Hubby has just had it done and we are nervously awaiting the outcome!

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pinkmook · 01/02/2009 11:48

I have read that much on sperm analysis, I think I knew more than the GP, the consultant and everyone put together LOL! I will happily have a look at them for you terrier. When are they due bck? I will make sure to look on here that day.

I understand what you mean about feeling ok but still fragile, it's process this whole thing and although logically you may have become more relaistic your emotions some times take a bit to catch up! If you get what I mean ??! Its really like a greiving process and sometimes you will get through a stage and then end up going back again and repeating that stage before properly moviing on. Its very hard as well cause you cant really talk to anyoone about it and people dont get how deep the pain is (like they would in bereavement) but keep talking here and we'll all keep listening xx

terrier141 · 01/02/2009 11:37

Hi welsh! glad everything is going well, I was thinking about you the other day and wondering how you are - whens your due date?

Thanks pink - I will be posting the sperm analysis results on here for your opinion as I feel after all you have been through you will probably have a better interpretation of them than my gp - who is quite frankly crap!

Think all this ttc business has left its mark on me though as Im still very tearful and flying of the handle at the slightest thing - Im very irrational still, even though Im feeling more realistic - does that make any sense! Think Im just a bit fragile at the momement, im sure it will pass xx

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WelshSuprise · 31/01/2009 20:58

Hi all, subtle name change again !! Wow, lots of developments on the thread. Tessa, welcome and hello again KellyK x

Sorry I've not been around much lately but all is well

Pink, that is fantastic news about the IVF. Bet your really excited and it's great to see things are finally moving forward for you

Terrier, glad too that you're feeling a bit more upbeat x I know my BFP was a blow, even though I know you were all happy for me. Think it made matters worse because my DH was the last to have the op done which doesn't seem fair I know

I have everything crossed that the results come back great for you Terrier. I'm sure you will be much more settled after you just know what the results say. Keep us posted please xx

pinkmook · 31/01/2009 19:49

So glad you got to talk to dh and a sympathetic (and very sensible sounding) friend. I really missed you on here (and I'm sure the others did too) and I know how you felt about linz's bfp as it did the same to me.

I think you are right you need to see what the sperm analysis tells you - you might be pleasantly surprised! Make sure you let us know what happens either way xxxxxxxxx

terrier141 · 31/01/2009 11:01

Thanks girls,
I think im just being far too impatient and shouldnt even be considering other options yet. Had a good chat to my friend last night and shes really helped me put things into perspective. We had both been ttc for roughly the same length of time and shes just got her bfp! Think thats what got me so down However, she got me to realise last night that it has taken her this long and she is 24 with no fertility issues, so maybe I am being a little unrealistic when the consultant had told us not to expect anything until at least 12mths!
Im just not a very patient person, and because our linz got her bfp after 3mths, just thought the worst because Im still waiting. Think the fact that we havent had sperm analysis done yet and that my dh didnt seem that bothered was just all too much for me and I became an emotional wreck!
I had a good heart to heart with dh last night too and got him to open up a little bit (it was like pulling teeth!), but I feel we are on more common ground now.
So this morning, you will be pleased to hear , that i am now feeling a lot more realistic and less desparate about things.
I have decided to stop looking too far ahead and just wait for the sperm test results (2 weeks) before deciding where to go from there. At least me and dh are talking about it now so thats real progress, although it did take me to have a mini-breakdown for it ti happen!
Anyway, it looks like I should ovulate either today or tomorrow and we managed to bd on wed, thurs, fri, and fingers crossed we will bd tonight and tomorrow too. That fits in quite nicely with his 2/3 days abstinence for the sperm test on wed .

Thank you for your support, its really encouraging. I havent been able to face coming on mn for weeks, but think im back on track now xx

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sorrento · 30/01/2009 19:06

would he *consider i meant fingers typing faster than brain

sorrento · 30/01/2009 19:05

I have to say Terrier this is why I fast forwarded straight to IVF, would he could that as most of the treatment is done to you, I guess he just has to provide a sample.
My thinking was if it didn't work at least I knew there was a end to it, I could have 10 treatments where as this could go for years and years for you guys ?
As pink said egg sharing brings the cost down dramatically.
Skip the mortgage payment for a month that's my plan lol

pinkmook · 30/01/2009 17:47

oh god it looks like I cant spell at all in that last message but my "a" key isn't working properly! (researching clearly has an a in it )

Terrier please talk to us and let us know you are ok xxxxxxxxxx

pinkmook · 30/01/2009 15:35

Oh terrier sweetheart you sound almost exactly like me 6-9 months ago. sex problems - yep, devastated everytime af coomes - yep, obsessing about it and reserching ways to help - yep, feeling hopeless - yep. Its soo so hard to go through this and as you can see I have eneded up in the situation none of us want to be in on this thread - i.e being told it will prob never happen naturally. It's difficult but the oonly way I have founf to help me cope is to set a time limit on how long we will try for and to try and get my head round how life will be without any more dc's.

As for ivf - dont dismiss it out of hand - with egg sharing ours will only cost about £1500. helf the cost of a reversal.

My dh is crap about talking about stuff too and its been very hard with him being made redundant and having to take a very low paid job. he bottles everything up and could tend to become snappy with me as he projected all his anxieties onto to me but try and gently talk to him, you might be surprised. Will he not even consider ivf with egg sharing? It saves so much money and is an amazing thing to do for a woman who cannot produce her own eggs for whatever reason.

Please keep talking to us on here, we miss you and you can rant away! I feel for you i really do as you sound almost exactly like me - I dont give them out much but (((terrier))) have hug xxxxxxxxx

terrier141 · 30/01/2009 13:13

Hi girls,
Sorry I havent been around lately, but tbh im in a real state at the moment.
Im getting really down about the whole ttc and dont know how much longer i can carry on. Every AF brings with it floods of tears and dh isnt really one for talking about it which doesnt help.
However, dh has FINALLY agreed and committed to have the sperm test done. So after a really stressful time with my gp (who is crap and gave us all the wrong details!) I have booked him an appt at lab for next wed, however we have to wait til Fri 13th (cant mean good news!) to see the gp for the results.
Really dont know what i'll do if its bad news, we cant afford IVF and dont know if I can cope with the reality of never having our own child.
Im experiencing the same issues this month as last with dh i.e in the bedroom and dont know if the excuses he makes are valid or just mean that he doesnt really want a baby. He is now blaming it on alcohol (although he doesnt drink much), but is reluctant to avoid alcohol around ov time. he also smokes which I know cant be helping. Just feel soo frustrated as theres nothing I can do to improve our chances.
Sorry for the depressing rant, but just need to get it off my chest.

Pink - Im glad things are moving forward for you.

Tessa - good luck, sounds promising.

Hi to everyone xx

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Tessa44 · 30/01/2009 10:53

Thanks pink, just got letter back from op saying that under are circumstances we have excellent chance at restoring his sperm count. also it says during the operation i was able to rejoin the vas tubes in a very satisfactory manner.the testicular secretions were rather thick and creamy but did contain a lot of dead sperm. the hope is that the fluid will become thinner and allow live sperm to come into your ejaculate when we test it in 3 months time. don't really understand that bit does anyone know what that means... lv Tessa xxx

pinkmook · 29/01/2009 12:50

Hi Tessa, welcome to the thread, its not terribly busy on here but we re very friendly and check back in on here every few days. Glad your DH's op went well. Good luck TTC

linz and terrier where are youoooo?

Tessa44 · 29/01/2009 11:43

hiya i'm a newbie to this site, i've read all through the posts and it sounds great. My partner alan has just had the reversal on 26th jan 3 years after first having the vasectomy done. We already have 2 sons damion who is 8 and michael who is 6. like a lot of people we're regretting having the vas done and really shouldn't taken a rash decision. well thats it about me. Alan is doing well after op he's really sore, really bruised and walking like john wayne lol. Anyway i just wanted to say hi and i hope your all doing well Lv Tessa xxx

pinkmook · 28/01/2009 08:29

will do sorrento - the consultant was acually quite positive about egg sharing. he did a cost gains thing with me about doing it/not doing it and on the plus side was saying - its a "good" admirable thing to do as well as the obvious financial benefit. Me nd DH dont have any prob per se with someone turning up in 18 yers and have discussed it a bit last night - we would tell DS and any dc that came from ivf when they were old enough that we egg shared and the possibility they have biological siblings somewhere - but the consultant made us feel really good about doing it. It costs the couple having donated eggs and ivf closer to 10 grand so its a really big undertaking for them. xx

sorrento · 27/01/2009 20:46

Oh let me know what they say about egg sharing hun, I still have steam coming out of my ears following my bloody counselling session.
DH's sperm aspiration didn't happen on Monday as he has a job interview tomorrow, have told him not to come home if he doesn't get it so we're back to March for his bit which is cutting things fine to say the least.

Kelly if you find away of stopping yourself looking at babygrows do let me know, I've even been known to buy a few despite knowing I never dress my babies in white once I know what flavour I've got I saw a new Bugaboo in the sale and had to physically remove myself from the shop to stop me buying it

pinkmook · 27/01/2009 18:38

Sorry that should have been KellyK! You know what I meant LOL! xx

pinkmook · 27/01/2009 18:37

hey girls, just got back from my initial consultation with a private fertility clinic. Was in there for 2 hours, got spend 1 hour with the consultant going through evrything and asking q's, dh had a sperm test with results done there and then (amazing - takes months for same thing on nhs) and basically we are going to have to go for ivf with icsi as DH's sperm are knackered LOL! I am going to egg share so process takes a couple of weeks longer, but omg I cant believe we are moving on. Consultant said for me to stop taking clomid as its not going to work (DH has 100% anti sperm antibodies -ASA - this is from having had a vasectomy - now reversed - his body has seen his own sperm as a foreign body and developed anti bodies which bind to the sperm preventing them from swimming - so at 100% he said its highly unlikey to happen) The nhs consultant told me that the ASA test they did was fine ! Ha! How wrong can you be!

So ladies wish me luck and hey katiek glad you are back on the old reversal train and welcome back, keep us updated !!PM xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

kellykateneedsaholiday · 26/01/2009 22:30

Hi
I posted ages ago on this thread and should have been going for consultation for dh op last july, but first appointment was cancelled by cos consultant was ill, then dh changed jobs and didnt want to have to take time off straight away, then i got cold feet about the whole thing.
So now we have saved up the money for op and dh goes for consultation on the 6th feb and im def not changing my mind this time.
now i just need to stop looking at baby clothes etc. dh talked to his boss today and told her he had to go for minor op soon but doesnt have enough hols to take 2 weeks off afterwards (he does a lot of heavy lifting for his work so doc says hell need to take the time off) His boss says that hes to take the two weeks and not come back till he feels ok. he just needs to fit his time off round the other guy he works withs hols (small company, only two of them in his dept)

Im trying not to think about it but theres so many people getting pregnant just now that its not easy.

Congrats on the pregnancy welshlinz and hopefully itll not be long before theres more of us with a bump.

sorrento · 23/01/2009 20:00

Blimey well I shall bring that up with the counsellor who has frightened the life out of me.

pinkmook · 23/01/2009 19:49

ah but they can discriminate in much the same way that they can discriminate when choosing people who are potential adoptive/foster parents.

The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990 states that before carrying out fertility treatment a clinic must ?take account of the welfare of any child who may be born as a result of that treatment, (including the need of that child for a father), and of any child who may be affected by the birth?.

This means that before starting fertility treatment the clinic will ask you a number of personal questions, including your age, proof of identity and the medical histories of you and your immediate family. In situations where the child will have no legal father, the clinic will pay particular attention to the prospective mother?s ability to meet the child?s needs throughout childhood. If you refuse permission, this will be taken into account by the clinic in considering whether or not to offer treatment.

I cant see clinics being neglectful because of the huge potential for legal action that must surely exist if anything goes wrong. At least I hope not!

sorrento · 23/01/2009 17:18

I assumed that too pink, but no apparently they cannot discriminate against people with all sorts of backgrounds so the eggs could literally go to anyone and again the private eggs can go to the NHS patients, certainly at the Hewitt centre and I would have no control over that.
I'm not trying to put you off because no doubt I am worrying about nothing.

pinkmook · 23/01/2009 17:14

Its unlikely your eggs would go to a drug addict or anyone like that though isn't it? Most peeople who go down the ivf route, with all the heartache and costs associated are unlikely to be massively unstable types (of course there are exceptions to every rule). And I presume the eggs used at a private clinic would be used with other private patients not packaged up nd used in nhs fcilities?

Plus - when I just filled out my forms for CARE fertility before my appointment next week, part of that was a disclosure form where they can seek info from social services and gp's about your history including any domestic violence, social services involvement, criminal history etc as the new act also means they have a duty to ensure any child born as result of fertility treatment must reasonably be assumed not to be being given to people/families with domestic/social problems or any history of criminality, drug use, abuse, or violence.

sorrento · 23/01/2009 16:47

Sorry hit return, well no you couldn't be forced to sit down and have a coffee but they could knock the door or watch you for weeks and confront you in Sainsbury's or tell my other DC. All just hassel I don't need for the sake of £2k (I think am still hmm and ahhing as I do).

My Aunty had her son adopted in the 70's, he went to a great family but was a bad person, criminal and drug addict and my mum and others welcomed him into the family and looked after him for a few years until he got back onto the drugs and then tried to kill my aunt, uncle and 3 cousins.
Now I know that's extreme but it just worries me if you've had no say in the upbringing of a person and then the appear and claim you as their biological mum you'd want to help them (I think I would anyway) but it could all go wrong, am worrying needlessly no doubt

sorrento · 23/01/2009 16:42

Well it's the law so I assume there are penalties for not doing so, if they can find you I just felt totally uncomfortable that my eggs could be given to a drug addict or a person who might harm the baby, I know you can't control it but if I didn't know then I wouldn't worry and it seemed to me there was a very real chance that you be told.

pinkmook · 23/01/2009 16:42

just done some reading up on this and you have no legal obligation to any children born from donations and are protected by law. So presumably you cannot have contact forced upon you? They may be allowed your details but have no right to meet you?

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