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bayleaf · 20/12/2002 20:51

It may just be my computer ( no broad band in the sticks!)but the other thread was taking a long while to load and accept new messages so maybe we can start again here...

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CookieMonster · 21/01/2003 15:42

Bayleaf, that's fantastic news Four grade 1 embryos is brilliant - I never had a grade 1 on any of my cycles. How many have you had implanted - 2 or 3? Hope you're sat with your feet up right now!

Elliot, hope all goes as well for you when you start sniffing at the weekend.

Best wishes to both ... CM

elliott · 21/01/2003 15:25

bayleaf, I'm really pleased - that's great news! Just got to keep sane for the next two weeks now...
I start sniffing on Saturday, BTW. Still have a feeling of unreality about it but I'm sure it will become all too real very soon!

Marina · 21/01/2003 15:22

Ace news, now take it easy like the doctor says!

bayleaf · 21/01/2003 15:16

Gill - here is one bit about luteal and vit B etc YOu need to click on 9.4 - ( altho I have come across it on several sites. This one seems to be a very extensive and interesting site www.fertilityplus.org is the main site address.

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bayleaf · 21/01/2003 15:06

HAPPY BUNNY!!
They checked me over and said it was fine to go ahead - and having had a day extra to develop it was better in some respects for choosing the best embryos- (For elliott and Cookie - of the 9 by today there were 4 grade one 8 cell embryos)so it's all gone very well and now I've got two weeks of relaxing (!) and hoping hard.
Gill - I'll look later and post if I can find it.

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elliott · 21/01/2003 14:53

you're right there! I worked away for a few months when we were ttc and immediately started ovulating on Wednesdays!!

Ruth21 · 21/01/2003 14:51

Yes, I think that would probably be ideal--so far we've managed three 'gos' each month, 24 hours apart, and no luck, but maybe we were starting a bit late.

Problem is, the donor-father lives here but works three hours away. Usually he's away from Monday to Thursday, so he has to take time off work or arrange to 'work at home' to inseminate. The longer we spread things out the more difficult it is. I just keep hoping to ovulate at the weekend--though even that doesn't necessarily give you long enough. I'm sure that's not just a problem for me, though.

elliott · 21/01/2003 14:23

Ruth21, forgot your particular circumstances when writing that! The ovulation predictor kits (as you know) predict the LH surge which happens a bit before ovulation (12-36 hours or so) - but I've always thought that there is a slight risk of always just missing the boat if you wait until after the LH surge has been detected.
Obviously for you timing is particularly critical, and even more difficult if you are not ovulating at roughly the same time each month - if you could manage several inseminations (say 48 hrs apart)during the critical days leading up to ovulation it might help.

Ruth21 · 21/01/2003 14:00

Yes, last month my pee-on-sticks kit predicted ovulation on day 7, which caught me (and the donor-father) by surprise. Those kits obviously don't allow you to inseminate (in my case) a couple of days in advance of ovulation though. It looks like I am going to have to get thoroughly into the temperature-taking, mucus-checking regime.

elliott · 21/01/2003 11:41

for info - my infertility specialist isn't very impressed by theories about short luteal phases. When I asked her about it, she told me that implantation happens quite early (about 5 or 6 days after fertilisation), and that if it happens, the developing embryo will provide enough hormones to support the lining of the womb.

If ovulation is happening early then the most fertile period will also be correspondingly early - and might even be before the previous period has finished. Remember it is best to have sex a day or two before ovulation, because sperm survive a lot longer than eggs and ideally you want some hanging around in the appropriate place at the time the egg is released! Just a thought.

WideWebWitch · 21/01/2003 11:29

bayleaf, good luck. Let us know how you get on.

Marina · 21/01/2003 10:18

Will have fingers crossed for you at 11am, Bayleaf.

tigermoth · 21/01/2003 09:52

Hope that 11 am appointment is a good one, bayleaf. Fingers crossed for you.

Ruth21 · 21/01/2003 09:45

Thanks for that bayleaf. Will look back at old messages regarding vitamins. My ovulation to period time this month was (I think!) 11 days, so it looks like I'm within the range, but only just.

Hope it goes well at 11 am.

Ruth21 · 21/01/2003 09:41

Thanks for that bayleaf. Will look back at old messages regarding vitamins. My ovulation to period time this month was (I think!) 11 days, so it looks like I'm within the range, but only just.

Hope it goes well at 11 am.

GillW · 21/01/2003 08:56

Bayleaf - best of luck for today, will be keeping fingers crossed for you. Could you post the link to the stuff about vitamins again plz as I can't seem to find it, and the way things are going it could come in useful - worth trying in any case. Pre DS had a fairly regular 27 day cycle, which dropped to 25 days afterwards, but has been creeping downwards and last 2 have been 17 and 15 days with (if I'm getting it right) ov about day 6 which although I'm no expert seems way too early.

bayleaf · 21/01/2003 07:42

Am feeling a litle more optimistic this am as I do fell better - tho' not 'cured' ( stupid word better as it means both)so we'll just have to see. I'm to go in at 11 am so no rush today.

Ruth - sorry I can't be of much help on short cycles in general but short luteal( ov to period) phases ( less than 11 days) are seen to be a problem becasue the embryo doesn't have time to implant before the lining starts to shed. There aer various things you can do about it vitamin supplement wise - the info is on the various sites I've posted. It does seem to work - mine was about 11 days ( so actually not a problem in theory but a desperate woman clutches at anything) and the vits did extend it by 2 days within 2 cycles.

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Ruth21 · 20/01/2003 22:36

I'm new to mumsnet but hoped some of you could give me some advice. First I wanted to say, bayleaf, I hope it goes better tomorrow.

Sorry to raise a new issue but hope people don't mind.

I am in a situation roughly like dot1's--already have a dd, but my partner got pregnant. She is 20 months and we are now trying for number 2, but this time I am ttc. This is only the second cycle but my period just started today, after only 18 days. I've always had short cycles (usually around 22-23 days) but this is ridiculous.

We have been using ovulation predictor sticks with apparent success, though I don't think the rise in LH actually guarantees that you ovulate. (I haven't been taking temperature very consistently so I haven't had the confirmation from that.)

On a few places around the web I've seen it suggested that short cycles may mean fertility problems, but I haven't seen it explained why. Does anyone have information about what short cycles mean for fertility?

Also, has anyone used the 'ovusoft' fertility software from the tcyf website that bayleaf recommended? With any success?

pluto · 20/01/2003 19:54

Sorry to hear this Bayleaf, it's just not fair is it? Got everything crossed for you for tomorrow.

Twink · 20/01/2003 18:11

Oh @rse Bayleaf. All the best for tomorrow. xx

jodee · 20/01/2003 17:58

Wishing you better joy for tomorrow, Bayleaf!

jodee · 20/01/2003 17:58

Wishing you better joy for tomorrow, Bayleaf!

bundle · 20/01/2003 17:34

bayleaf, lots of positive vibes coming your way - to you & your sore ovaries!

bells2 · 20/01/2003 15:51

Hang in there Bayleaf

elliott · 20/01/2003 15:33

oh bayleaf I'm really sorry - its horrible having a knock back like that, and especially when you had nearly got to the final hurdle. but - 'sore ovaries'??!! did they give you any more, erm, technical explanation? what did they think the problem of going ahead with transfer might be? I really hope you get the go-ahead tomorrow. Did they tell you how the embies were doing?

Hugs to you. bum was pretty restrained in the circumstances!

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