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Disappointed with fertility consultation

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Firsttime2023 · 27/11/2024 13:00

Hi all, I had a consultation with the fertility clinic today I have come away feeling really disheartened.

On paper, I should be relieved as technically nothing is wrong with myself or OH, everything has come back 'normal'

I am 38 so I realise age isn't on my side which is why we have gone down this route after 12 months of ttc.

I was hoping there would be some advice/suggestions for further treatment or some sort of plan. But nothing, other than keep trying naturally and if you reach 2 years come back.

She emphasised my age being the only thing against us yet also said I should come back if nothing has happened after 2 years of trying (when I will be even older?)

Is this normal? She mention HyCosy but said there was no indication I need it done. I had to ask about anything I can be doing to improve chances as she offered nothing. I thought paying privately I would get a bit more back.

Was I just hoping for a miracle?

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LittleTwiggy · 28/11/2024 21:11

Have they done any tests on your OH? You only mention the ultrasound and blood test on yourself (unless I missed it). I think something like 50% of fertility issues are male factor so they should definitely be testing him too. A semen analysis for starters but also blood worth testing too.

Firsttime2023 · 28/11/2024 20:59

MrRobinsonsQuango · 28/11/2024 20:52

@Firsttime2023 l had a similar fertility check when l was 38 and my husband was 35. They couldn’t find any issues and told us to give it more time. It never happened naturally and only the 3rd round of eventually worked. I ended up having children at 43 which wasn’t really our plan. The odds of IVF aren’t great and the older you get then the worse the odds get

She should have spelled out the options plus the pro’s and con’s, then allowed you to make a decision. You are going private after all. She sounds like an NHS doctor trying to fob you off

I'm sorry you had such a long journey 💕 and I was unaware of the stats around IVF until she told me which made it even more confusing that she was telling me to go away and come back in a year when I'm even older!
That's exactly how I felt, like I'd been to see an NHS doctor. Which I would have completely accepted had that been the case!

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Firsttime2023 · 28/11/2024 20:55

ViaRia01 · 28/11/2024 20:35

At my first (and only) private fertility consultation I was advised something similar. I can’t remember if/ how all my timescales differed to yours, but the measage from them didn’t feel dismissive to me - it was much more along the lines that “we can’t see any specific cause of infertility and so you might prefer to wait until you’re eligible for nhs funding and come back for ivf/treatment in x months’ time”
could they have meant something like that, perhaps?

Possibly! I feel like I made it clear I was wanting to discuss other options but she was unwilling to really discuss anything with me, and because I didn't go in there armed with all the knowledge I didn't feel confident enough to question it if that makes sense. Anyway, we live and we learn and maybe my preconceptions of what it would be like were completely wrong! I will definitely be more prepared for the next appointment and make it clearer what I want to achieve from it.

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MrRobinsonsQuango · 28/11/2024 20:52

@Firsttime2023 l had a similar fertility check when l was 38 and my husband was 35. They couldn’t find any issues and told us to give it more time. It never happened naturally and only the 3rd round of eventually worked. I ended up having children at 43 which wasn’t really our plan. The odds of IVF aren’t great and the older you get then the worse the odds get

She should have spelled out the options plus the pro’s and con’s, then allowed you to make a decision. You are going private after all. She sounds like an NHS doctor trying to fob you off

ViaRia01 · 28/11/2024 20:35

At my first (and only) private fertility consultation I was advised something similar. I can’t remember if/ how all my timescales differed to yours, but the measage from them didn’t feel dismissive to me - it was much more along the lines that “we can’t see any specific cause of infertility and so you might prefer to wait until you’re eligible for nhs funding and come back for ivf/treatment in x months’ time”
could they have meant something like that, perhaps?

bookish83 · 28/11/2024 20:11

Get the hycosy

I got pregant the first month after it. 36 and 8 months trying. No issues on hycosy but i'm convinced it cleared something. Best £650 I've ever spent.

JJB92 · 28/11/2024 20:00

@Firsttime2023 it's a pleasure! I'm glad you have a second consultation. I hope you'll walk away with more answers this time.

Firsttime2023 · 28/11/2024 12:38

BalloonSlayer · 28/11/2024 10:42

In your OP and just now you have said that she told you to keep trying for another two years, but in your posts earlier you mention she said "there is no reason why it can't happen naturally, carry on as you are and if you get to two years I'd recommend coming back to us" so to me that looks like she is saying keep trying for only one more year to get to two years in total?

Yes you're right, but regardless of it being 1 or 2 years it still isn't good enough in my opinion. Obviously I would love for it to happen naturally and I still hold onto hope that it will, but I don't want to take the risk of waiting another year to then start treatment (which could also take months/years if it even works!)

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Firsttime2023 · 28/11/2024 12:32

MissyPants · 28/11/2024 10:34

Just keep on trying. Yes age is a factor but it isn't impossible.
I had my 1st at 36 and my second at 40, conceived straight away at 40, no issues whatsoever, but took a few attempts at 36 because of chemical pregnancies etc.

Obviously I plan to keep on trying. My point was that I didn't need to pay to see a private consultant to tell me that. I expected more from the consultation that was all. The clinic have agreed to let me see another consultant anyway so hopefully I may get further this time ❤️

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BalloonSlayer · 28/11/2024 10:42

In your OP and just now you have said that she told you to keep trying for another two years, but in your posts earlier you mention she said "there is no reason why it can't happen naturally, carry on as you are and if you get to two years I'd recommend coming back to us" so to me that looks like she is saying keep trying for only one more year to get to two years in total?

MissyPants · 28/11/2024 10:34

Just keep on trying. Yes age is a factor but it isn't impossible.
I had my 1st at 36 and my second at 40, conceived straight away at 40, no issues whatsoever, but took a few attempts at 36 because of chemical pregnancies etc.

Firsttime2023 · 28/11/2024 10:15

romdowa · 28/11/2024 08:51

Sounds very odd. I'm in Ireland (and only 36) and after over a year ttc we were seen in the public fertility hub . We were advised that husbands sperm numbers were a bit low so told to take supplements to see if they would improve, which they did but still no pregnancy. So at the next appointment I was scheduled to have my tubes flushed and was told if that didn't help then we would be put forward for ivf if funding was approved. Thankfully just after that appointment I got pregnant.
I'd have been quite disappointed if I had been told to come back in 2 years, especially when it had been a private appointment

Thanks it's so reassuring to know I'm not just being an impatient princess 😂 I know I should be relieved that nothing is wrong (that they can see) but I don't want to leave things to fate and in two years time wish I'd pushed to do something about it earlier 😞

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Firsttime2023 · 28/11/2024 10:14

Matildahoney · 27/11/2024 21:14

We went to a private clinic when we were TTC as we'd been trying 6 months and I was 40.
They did all the tests and scans, when the results came back normal and in her words 'were the last people that should be sat there telling her I couldn't get pregnant ' she suggested a hycosy straight away, we decided we'd go ahead with it (for another £150) and were sent away to wait for my next period to start as you have to have it on certain days of your cycle. I'm very surprised she didn't try to almost push you to have one, we were told there was no reason for us to have one other than to rule it out, and a lot of people fall pregnant within 3 cycles of having one so we felt it was worth a go. Luckily I fell that month whilst I was waiting for my period to arrive!

Yes I've seen lots of women post about how they fall pregnant after having this done. Not to say it's a given for everyone but I will definitely see if I can have it I think!

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Firsttime2023 · 28/11/2024 10:13

JJB92 · 28/11/2024 08:30

Hi

Just want to say I understand the frustration! With out first visit the doctor also basically said everything seems ok, so we can keep trying naturally or do IVF if we are in a rush.

We ended up going to a different doctor and it was a very different experience.

I think it's worth explicitly asking which tests are out there, and what will you learn by doing each of them. At a minimum that would probably be: Bloods to check thyroid, progesterone and ovarian reserve, sonar to look at endometrium and for any other abnormalities, sonar near ovulation to look at follicle growth, HSG or hycosy to look at tubes, semen analysis, possible lap if there is nothing else.

I also think it's worth explicitly saying that you want to leave the consultation with a plan for the next x months and to tell the doctor where you are at in terms of a timeline, since it will greatly impact the next steps. E.g. we really want to try to get pregnant in the next 6 / 12 / 24 months. Which course of actions would give us the best chance to achieve this?

If your timeline is 24 months, they might suggest trying naturally for a few more, but if the timeline you give them is 12 or less, I think it would make sense to start with medicated rounds immediately after all the necessary tests have been done and take it from there.

I hope this helps. All the best!

Thank you this is really helpful. I'm quite naive to all the possible options and what they entail etc which is what I was hoping to speak about in my appointment! So I can go armed with this information (I sent them an email this morning and they have offered me another consultation with a different consultant). I definitely do not want to wait potentially another 2 years!

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romdowa · 28/11/2024 08:51

Sounds very odd. I'm in Ireland (and only 36) and after over a year ttc we were seen in the public fertility hub . We were advised that husbands sperm numbers were a bit low so told to take supplements to see if they would improve, which they did but still no pregnancy. So at the next appointment I was scheduled to have my tubes flushed and was told if that didn't help then we would be put forward for ivf if funding was approved. Thankfully just after that appointment I got pregnant.
I'd have been quite disappointed if I had been told to come back in 2 years, especially when it had been a private appointment

JJB92 · 28/11/2024 08:30

Hi

Just want to say I understand the frustration! With out first visit the doctor also basically said everything seems ok, so we can keep trying naturally or do IVF if we are in a rush.

We ended up going to a different doctor and it was a very different experience.

I think it's worth explicitly asking which tests are out there, and what will you learn by doing each of them. At a minimum that would probably be: Bloods to check thyroid, progesterone and ovarian reserve, sonar to look at endometrium and for any other abnormalities, sonar near ovulation to look at follicle growth, HSG or hycosy to look at tubes, semen analysis, possible lap if there is nothing else.

I also think it's worth explicitly saying that you want to leave the consultation with a plan for the next x months and to tell the doctor where you are at in terms of a timeline, since it will greatly impact the next steps. E.g. we really want to try to get pregnant in the next 6 / 12 / 24 months. Which course of actions would give us the best chance to achieve this?

If your timeline is 24 months, they might suggest trying naturally for a few more, but if the timeline you give them is 12 or less, I think it would make sense to start with medicated rounds immediately after all the necessary tests have been done and take it from there.

I hope this helps. All the best!

Matildahoney · 27/11/2024 21:14

We went to a private clinic when we were TTC as we'd been trying 6 months and I was 40.
They did all the tests and scans, when the results came back normal and in her words 'were the last people that should be sat there telling her I couldn't get pregnant ' she suggested a hycosy straight away, we decided we'd go ahead with it (for another £150) and were sent away to wait for my next period to start as you have to have it on certain days of your cycle. I'm very surprised she didn't try to almost push you to have one, we were told there was no reason for us to have one other than to rule it out, and a lot of people fall pregnant within 3 cycles of having one so we felt it was worth a go. Luckily I fell that month whilst I was waiting for my period to arrive!

Firsttime2023 · 27/11/2024 20:51

Schoolrunmum81 · 27/11/2024 20:03

I've not read through all your replies so sorry if this has already been suggested. If you have no other option than to keeping trying for the next two years, look into the book " it starts with the egg" and some decent prenatal supplements. There are some really pricey ones out there but I've heard proceive are quite good. I've just bought them from boots today. £25 for a month's supply.

Best of luck x

Edited

Thank you, I have heard about the book actually but will give it a read 😊
I have also ordered some prenatal supplements ❤️

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Firsttime2023 · 27/11/2024 20:49

@Harriet1989 thank you, I will give it a go!
Good luck and congrats with your pregnancy ❤️

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Schoolrunmum81 · 27/11/2024 20:03

I've not read through all your replies so sorry if this has already been suggested. If you have no other option than to keeping trying for the next two years, look into the book " it starts with the egg" and some decent prenatal supplements. There are some really pricey ones out there but I've heard proceive are quite good. I've just bought them from boots today. £25 for a month's supply.

Best of luck x

Harriet1989 · 27/11/2024 18:07

Firsttime2023 · 27/11/2024 15:56

Thank for your reply! I guess going private I just expected more! But £150 for a 10 minute appointment to be told "you're fine carry on as you are" was really disheartening although obviously I'm glad there is nothing wrong!

Oh that's interesting you mention the Fertilily. I was looking that up this afternoon and wondered if it was worth giving it a go??

I completely agree with you, my OH found it really reassuring nothing was wrong.. and I did too but didn't get any of the advice around like even timing of intercourse.

Fertilily.. I'm a case study of one so take that with a pinch of salt.. we have been trying for a year, pregnant once in May which ended in MC in June. Then first cycle using fertility we are now pregnant again. I'm very hesitant to get excited after the MC but I'd definitely use fertilily again. I use menstrual cups so it was easier than that, otherwise I'd suggest giving it a go before you 'need' it so you're familiar

Firsttime2023 · 27/11/2024 17:37

onceisenoughinlife · 27/11/2024 16:42

This sounds like you are looking for an NHS referral? A private clinic would have you booked in to start on your next cycle

Sorry @onceisenoughinlife think I misread your comment! That makes sense about having to wait for the nhs referral but not private 😊

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CeciliaMars · 27/11/2024 17:04

A private clinic would take you straightaway I'd have thought?! NHS, you need your have been trying for a certain amount of time. In my area it's 3 years, so we went private. Good luck

Firsttime2023 · 27/11/2024 17:04

onceisenoughinlife · 27/11/2024 16:42

This sounds like you are looking for an NHS referral? A private clinic would have you booked in to start on your next cycle

Sounds like it doesn't it! But nope it was private!

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onceisenoughinlife · 27/11/2024 16:42

This sounds like you are looking for an NHS referral? A private clinic would have you booked in to start on your next cycle