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TTC after loss part 6

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Figtree11 · 24/10/2024 20:14

Previous thread created is nearly full so starting a new one. Will try and tag names

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DonnaWhat · 21/12/2024 19:58

Just checking in with you all, I Hope you're all doing ok?

@Blueskies4 Congratulations to you. I have everything crossed for a sticky bean. I had spotting with this pregnancy too and obviously jumped to worst as I have also had 2 miscarraiges this year but all is well at 22 weeks. I would ask your epu if they offer reassurance scans. Mine fobbed me off when I had a chemical pregnancy in june and when pregnant with this baby I went for a private reassurance scan and all was well. Then when I went for my 12 week scan they said "oh we would have done a reassurance scan" 🤐🙄 please keep us all posted on your journey and the very best of luck x

@Superscientist I used premom for tracking and got pregnant quite quickly each time. I also took pregnacare prenatals. All the very best for TTC next year ❣️

@Figtree11 it's good to see you have finally got a diagnosis and that they can start helping you. Hopefully the metformin does wonders for you and helps to start getting you on your journey. Other than the diagnosis how have you been? Xxxx

worldwidetravel2017 · 21/12/2024 18:16

We have a hosp appt

Re recurrent miscarriage pending

( agreed to be seen by recurrent miscarriage clinic)

But we already know my blood clots too fast

And ivf soon.

Those of you with pcos - ask NHS to test your urate

High urate = common in pcos patients

worldwidetravel2017 · 21/12/2024 18:13

Ncl31 · 21/12/2024 07:43

@Figtree11 theyve told me it’s not licensed so they don’t have to prescribe it. Apparently it’s entirely up to the doctor but the clinic I attend doesn’t agree with it apparently. Very frustrating. Although I’m now on letrozole so ovulating on cd14-18 each cycle now. Just taken my third course with 3 more to go.
they do say 75% of people conceive within 6 months so keeping fingers crossed

After 3 cycles of letrozole
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My nhs consultant recommended hyfosy

NHS wait was 5 months

So we got private hyfosy very fast for 500 gbp

Sending luck

worldwidetravel2017 · 21/12/2024 18:12

Figtree11 · 21/12/2024 08:13

@Ncl31 thats really annoying, I wonder why they don’t agree with it. I’m glad the letrozole is working for you though. I’m really hoping the metformin helps me, and I start ovulating on similar days to what you now are

@Figtree11 - have u had your tubes checked recently ?

I highly recommend private hyfosy if not

( just to rule it out )

I have pcos
Have miscarriage history
Was put on metformin

Also letrozole ( to super ovulate - even tho i ovulate alone )
.then
Had a private hyfosy

( now blocked tubes )

So ivf pending

worldwidetravel2017 · 21/12/2024 18:10

Figtree11 · 20/12/2024 17:42

@Superscientist my second blood test to confirm APS has come back as negative 🤦🏼‍♀️ the consultant seemed convinced before that I have it, but my most recent blood test came back as super low, so now been told I don’t have it! Did find out I have PCOS though. Starting on metformin next week

@CurlyWurly1991 nice to hear from you, yes we chatted earlier this year when I had my loss end of April. I hope you are doing as well as can be & that you and DH decide how you want to proceed. Its so hard

Ahh @Figtree11 - i was sure u had pcos from posts on a different thread in the past

Im on metformin for my pcos

Have u asked for slow release metformin? ( easier on the bowels / body )

Blueskies4 · 21/12/2024 09:22

@Bellabubble i find these ones really tricky and never had any lines this dark, so I'm not much help sorry!

@Nosejug thanks lovely.. I know it’s ultimately the aim, but straight into worry mode!

Figtree11 · 21/12/2024 08:13

@Ncl31 thats really annoying, I wonder why they don’t agree with it. I’m glad the letrozole is working for you though. I’m really hoping the metformin helps me, and I start ovulating on similar days to what you now are

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Ncl31 · 21/12/2024 07:43

@Figtree11 theyve told me it’s not licensed so they don’t have to prescribe it. Apparently it’s entirely up to the doctor but the clinic I attend doesn’t agree with it apparently. Very frustrating. Although I’m now on letrozole so ovulating on cd14-18 each cycle now. Just taken my third course with 3 more to go.
they do say 75% of people conceive within 6 months so keeping fingers crossed

Figtree11 · 20/12/2024 22:43

@CurlyWurly1991 yeah it really threw me, as I was expecting them to call & say the APS has now been officially diagnosed. But obviously not! Yes I believe it’s not as serious as APS, as that would be daily injections to thin the blood. And I guess even with PCOS I have got pregnant before, so hopefully the metformin helps me ovulate more often & help prevent miscarriage. This is through nhs, I was referred to a Tommys miscarriage clinic after my second loss, waited 6 months for my first appt

I can totally see where you are coming from - I don’t have any children so I feel like it’s fully all consuming, and I know I want to be a mum. So I feel like I need to keep battling through even though it’s hard

@Ncl31 oh really that’s very frustrating. Who has refused you metformin & have they said why?
Mine is thru nhs - Tommys recurrent miscarriage clinic. The consultant rang me today & said my lh levels are high which indicates PCOS, and I’ve not had a period in like 8 weeks. So she there & then prescribed metformin to take, and if I get pregnant to continue taking it then too. I pick up the prescription next week.
Yeah I’m relieved I don’t have APS, but a part of me did feel like it would have explained the miscarriages more than PCOS does, and so I’m more nervous about another loss now

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Nosejug · 20/12/2024 20:56

Oh wow congrats @Blueskies4 . All the very best on this journey. I long so much for a positive again, but I can only imagine the feelings it opens up. Sending positivity your way :) @Superscientist I'd actually given up running for fear that it was impacting my chances. I've miss it a lot though, and was kind of thinking I might do little runs to help my mind. I just get carried away when a good tune comes on (lol...sunchyme actually makes me sprint) so maybe I'll jog to audiobooks.

Ncl31 · 20/12/2024 20:32

Figtree11 · 20/12/2024 17:42

@Superscientist my second blood test to confirm APS has come back as negative 🤦🏼‍♀️ the consultant seemed convinced before that I have it, but my most recent blood test came back as super low, so now been told I don’t have it! Did find out I have PCOS though. Starting on metformin next week

@CurlyWurly1991 nice to hear from you, yes we chatted earlier this year when I had my loss end of April. I hope you are doing as well as can be & that you and DH decide how you want to proceed. Its so hard

I’m interested in how to managed to get metformin? NHS or private?
i have PCOS but have been refused metformin up to now.
You must be relieved im sure to not have the APS diagnosis?

CurlyWurly1991 · 20/12/2024 18:35

@Figtree11 that must be confusing for you that you expected APS and were told PCOS… I wonder if that might be a less concerning diagnosis? Great to hear that you are being offered treatment right away. May I ask is this via an NHS or private fertility doctor?

Yeah so hard. I had put the idea to sleep but it does keep popping up (typically around ovulation time lol). Having a child already means I am not completely focused on TTC - I know I would be OK to let go of the idea of another if I had to. I think if I didn’t have her then I would go to the ends of the earth to try… it is all consuming.

Hope everyone has some peace and rest over the Christmas break xx

Figtree11 · 20/12/2024 17:42

@Superscientist my second blood test to confirm APS has come back as negative 🤦🏼‍♀️ the consultant seemed convinced before that I have it, but my most recent blood test came back as super low, so now been told I don’t have it! Did find out I have PCOS though. Starting on metformin next week

@CurlyWurly1991 nice to hear from you, yes we chatted earlier this year when I had my loss end of April. I hope you are doing as well as can be & that you and DH decide how you want to proceed. Its so hard

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CurlyWurly1991 · 20/12/2024 08:42

I’m so sorry to hear that you have had another loss @Superscientist I remember you from when I was posting before and your words were so insightful and kind.

@Figtree11 you poor thing with flu. I think it can really mess things up cycle wise. I think we had MCs at the same time earlier this year and I remember us posting together. I’m so sorry to hear you’re still here as well.

Bit of background on me - 38.5, DH 47, we have a nearly 11 yo. We started TTC in May 23 and had MMCs with surgical management in Jan 24 and Apr 24. Decided to stop trying. Now I am starting to think about it again but haven’t even discussed with DH yet as he said back in August when I asked that he was at 90% no. Just following the thread for the ride at the moment as if I decide I want to keep TTC I will discuss with him, and of course if he’s still not keen then that will certainly be it for us.

CurlyWurly1991 · 19/12/2024 18:47

Hello, just catching up as I haven’t posted in a good few months or checked these forums.
Will post again properly later x

Bellabubble · 19/12/2024 18:27

Can I get some eyes on these ovulation sticks for a second opinion? I have always had a very clear test line that comes up darker..which hasn’t happened this month. I saw Tuesday’s (17th) and thought it would continue to get darker, and did one that eve that was pretty much the same, then dis one yesterday that to me looked a little more feint, and today’s is lighter still. Do we think I missed the boat this month? DH was recovering from a sick bug so dtd would not have been an option on Tuesday, and I was at a funeral late yesterday afternoon so wasn’t really in the right head space.

my only other thought is that my body attempted to ovulate but didn’t quite manage and will try again - I’m exactly 9weeks post MVA and this is the darkest set of lines I have had so far!

TTC after loss part 6
Blueskies4 · 19/12/2024 18:16

@Bellabubble thank you, so true your mind just goes to the negative. Stories like this always help!

Bellabubble · 19/12/2024 18:13

@Blueskies4 congratulations - I had a friend who had spotting and mild cramps all through her first trimester and went full term, so it isn’t always a bad sign. I think we always jump to the worst conclusion when you have experienced a loss - I have my finbers crossed for a sticky bean for you!

@Superscientist I use the pre-mom ovulation test strips and have found them pretty reliable - first time round I also used a bbt thermometer, but I haven’t had the most consistent sleep recently and forget to do it in the morning. I need to get better at it as I like knowing when I have ovulated (as much as you can know without having a scan around that time!)

Blueskies4 · 19/12/2024 17:17

Thank you xx

Glad you managed to get your appointment sorted! sorry to hear you’ve had such a rough time - I had the same missing birthdays after my last miscarriage, it was like I was on another planet for a month!

Do you like podcasts? If so there’s a couple of good ones on ovulation tracking on “Don’t tell me to relax”

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-tell-me-to-relax-a-fertility-podcast/id1663536357?i=1000670897130

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-tell-me-to-relax-a-fertility-podcast/id1663536357?i=1000672674089

I’ve used the clear blue digital ovulation tests and usually get a peak day with them. The cheaper ones I find hard to use and frustrating.. never got a peak which then becomes stressful!

I agree with things like running, anything that boosts the positivity can’t hurt can it!

Everything you need to know about ovulation to maximise your chances of conception

Everything you need to know about ovulation to maximise your chances of conception

Podcast Episode · Don't Tell Me To RELAX- A Fertility Podcast · 27/09/2024 · 24m

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dont-tell-me-to-relax-a-fertility-podcast/id1663536357?i=1000670897130

Superscientist · 19/12/2024 16:14

Congratulations @Blueskies4 wishing you the best over the coming nervy weeks! I hope all goes well for you. Spotting and cramps can be part of a normal pregnancy too.

I have got an appointment through for the reoccurring miscarriage team. It's a phone appointment at the end of March. I wasn't expecting it to come through so quickly so I initially rejected it as I thought it was related to my lost pregnancy it was only when I reread the letter I twigged it wasn't. All it said was gynae not what clinic. Thankfully I was able to make a few phone calls and get it all sorted.

I'm nervous about trying again. I'm just getting my life back having recovered from the pregnancy and loss. Realising I missed the birthdays of two of my friends children last month. I cleaned the house yesterday for the first time in over 2 months.

I'm trying to think about what I want TTC to look like in the new year. Previously we have mostly gone with the flow and an increase in libedo around the middle of my cycle has meant most months we have had a chance except when life gets in the way. I don't know if it's time to be more proactive. Does anyone have any advice on ovulation tracking? I seem to have fairly regular 27-28 day cycles.

I started running more the month I fell pregnant last time so I think I would like to try to get out for a couple of runs whilst I'm off over Christmas to try to look after my body and mind

Blueskies4 · 19/12/2024 14:53

I got a BFP last week ladies, didn’t post it as it was super faint, but symptoms have caught up and it’s a clear positive test now.

Feeling ridiculously nervous/scared. After wanting this positive test since last March, I’m straight into the fear and negative thoughts!

ps. Having some spotting today too and mild cramps

Superscientist · 16/12/2024 11:46

Thanks@Nosejug the second loss I knew I was measuring 10 days behind at 7.5 weeks so we too had some time to get our heads around it before it was confirmed. We only had it confirmed last week. It's an odd feeling as last time it still felt quite raw at this point but this time I feel ready to move on. I struggle with hyperemesis in pregnancy so right now I'm focused on enjoying food at Christmas with a view to start again in the new year and hopefully 2025 will be all of our years!

Nosejug · 16/12/2024 11:38

Thanks for the welcome and luck wishing @Blueskies4 and @Superscientist . Glad to have found the group :)

Sorry to hear about your two losses so close together Superscientist. That must have been so difficult. I also carried to ten weeks, but actually knew about the loss at 7, which was perhaps easier having a time to come to terms with the loss before actually losing it.

Wishing everyone the best for 2025 (or hopefully sooner!)x

Superscientist · 16/12/2024 10:40

Welcome @Nosejug I'm sorry you find yourself here but I hope you find it a supportive place.
I am TTC my second. I had my daughter in 2020 with no issues. I've been trying since April and have had two miscarriages in that time both at 10 weeks but both pregnancies were lost earlier than that. It took 8 months to be in a position to try as I was on medication not compatible with pregnancy due to severe pnd after having my daughter so it feels like a much longer journey. I'm 37 and also feeling the tick of time!

Wishing you all the best luck with your next IVF cycle x

Superscientist · 16/12/2024 10:34

@Mummysparrow I'm so sorry to hear your news. Fingers crossed for this pregnancy and that you get the support in deciding what to do next. There is no right answer, take you time and go with what feels right.

Thanks @Figtree11 I hope it's on the short side too. Good luck for your aps appointment. Sorry you have been ill and it's messed up your cycle. It's so tricky when there's extra things beyond your control. Rest up and feel better soon.

@Blueskies4 thanks for the information. I think I will see if the GP can check my thyroid. I need to look at my dates I think I'm due my annual bloods for my mood stabiliser. I wonder if they could add the thyroid function as well, it's worth asking ! I'll accept the wait for the aps! I've been trying to do some reading on lithium and TTC. It possibly increases the risk of miscarriage whilst taking it. I came off it in march/April. I'm now questioning whether there's still an impact from that.