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TTC after loss part 5

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Ella31 · 04/08/2024 18:18

Just continuing our old thread. I've added anyone who has asked to stay on here. As always, anyone who is trying after a loss is welcome to join and those who have been lucky since are welcome to encourage those who are still waiting for their rainbow (if you want to stay of course )

Also for the next thread, I'm going to let someone else take over creating the new one if people don't mind. I've a lot on at the moment with tests and I'm back to work in the next few weeks after my bereavement leave with my boys. So if anyone would like to take the mantle, feel free.

Im 2dpo today and have another ultrasound on Wednesday to see if follicle has burst followed by pdg blood test.

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DonnaWhat · 25/08/2024 15:27

@EmTTC2 No, nothing, I've only just had bloods done Friday and today for hcg so will find out more next week. I had to chase them all last week for those.

@HerbaceousPerennial Congratulations, fingers crossed for a sticky bean. 3rd time lucky for me too 🤞

@Figtree11 How are you, where are you in your cycle now? Xxx

Ladyinpink1 · 25/08/2024 14:34

Wow @HerbaceousPerennial that's brilliant news ❤️, I'm happy to read this and makes me feel hopeful too as we were on a similar timeline xx

MrsS11 · 25/08/2024 13:37

Congratulations @HerbaceousPerennial and welcome @Babydust99! I'm out too, despite thinking I might have ovulated last weekend AF has arrived... I feel like I've been bleeding continuously for 7 weeks 😭 i still have the iron supplements my midwife gave me when I was pregnant, so you think there's any harm in taking them till my cycle settles down? I'm shattered.
I had a lovely conversation with a lady at church this morning. She'd had a miscarriage at 16 weeks 41 days ago and her experience sounds barbaric, so different from what had happened to me. She was left on a ward full of pregnant women and told not to make such a fuss and treated as if she'd just had a period afterwards. Made me so thankful for the work of miscarriage charities and SANDS. But at the same time, she still mourns her baby despite managing to live a full life afterwards, I found that comforting.

EmTTC2 · 25/08/2024 12:07

HerbaceousPerennial · 25/08/2024 09:32

Morning all, sorry for everyone going through loss again and experiencing BFN. Having got a BFN on Tuesday I thought I was out but tested again yesterday and it’s positive. Slightly in shock. Still very early days and only too aware a BFP doesn’t equal a baby but feel cautiously excited at the moment. Hopefully third time lucky.

Congratulations on your BFP. Fingers crossed all goes well this time 🤞 x

Babydust99 · 25/08/2024 10:47

Superscientist · 25/08/2024 09:18

This was the book I read (link at the bottom), I can't remember how much was on pregnancy loss exactly as I was reading it for stroke and heart attack risk. I seem to recall that this was a minor part

Have they tested you for lupus? This was how APS was first identified in the 1980s Dr Hughes a prominent lupus Dr noticed a sub group of patients with lupus had thick blood and were prone to blood clots. He then found you could have this and not have lupus.

It is a relatively new condition and my dad found it was poorly understood. They didn't know what to do with him especially as most people identify as having aps were women trying to get pregnant. He was bounced from hospital department to hospital department and this was how his blood tests that identified him as having APS went missing. When they retested he was normal. We don't know now if he never had aps or whether it has gone dormant. He's been off the warfarin now for 3 years and just on aspirin as hasn't had any further clotting events since his minor stroke in 2013/2014.

The appointment with a specialist will hopefully give you some answers but it's not fair that you have been left without for so long.

www.amazon.co.uk/Sticky-Blood-Explained-Hughes-Syndrome/dp/1898030774/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2ZBY46O1CYVE7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4gdBYu-3S51MzMnNHXKn5UH6W7KeRCMiAYjo6AXOqiCMaQrNUYhEMWxBAnLthCsRBbXATWn8kHbgxbpmK6BWTPqW_nJ3SG99vgYueNEUz1I.k7jF2VK-XzVBm3KbUMoZsFTXi7qpCNilmCmGZc43Jb4&dib_tag=se&keywords=sticky+blood+hughes+syndrome&qid=1724573255&sprefix=sticky+blood+hughes+ayndrome%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-1

Thanks. I'm not sure if I've been tested for Lupus or not but I know all my other tests were normal. It's just the Cardiolipin IGG that was high. Hopefully will get a bit more of an insight next month

Superscientist · 25/08/2024 10:36

@HerbaceousPerennial fingers crossed for you! Congratulations 🎉

Onthedouble123 · 25/08/2024 09:35

Lovely news @HerbaceousPerennial! Cautious congratulations and fingers crossed for you 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻💕💕💕

HerbaceousPerennial · 25/08/2024 09:32

Morning all, sorry for everyone going through loss again and experiencing BFN. Having got a BFN on Tuesday I thought I was out but tested again yesterday and it’s positive. Slightly in shock. Still very early days and only too aware a BFP doesn’t equal a baby but feel cautiously excited at the moment. Hopefully third time lucky.

Superscientist · 25/08/2024 09:18

Babydust99 · 24/08/2024 20:47

@Superscientist no they havent done any additional tests so I am paying to see a specialist next month. They just sent me home with a script for aspirin to start immediately and blood thinning injections for when I next get a bfp. I want to know if it is primary or secondary incase something is causing it. I've not heard of the sticky blood book I will try and find it. I have lots of support from my mum and dp thankfully

This was the book I read (link at the bottom), I can't remember how much was on pregnancy loss exactly as I was reading it for stroke and heart attack risk. I seem to recall that this was a minor part

Have they tested you for lupus? This was how APS was first identified in the 1980s Dr Hughes a prominent lupus Dr noticed a sub group of patients with lupus had thick blood and were prone to blood clots. He then found you could have this and not have lupus.

It is a relatively new condition and my dad found it was poorly understood. They didn't know what to do with him especially as most people identify as having aps were women trying to get pregnant. He was bounced from hospital department to hospital department and this was how his blood tests that identified him as having APS went missing. When they retested he was normal. We don't know now if he never had aps or whether it has gone dormant. He's been off the warfarin now for 3 years and just on aspirin as hasn't had any further clotting events since his minor stroke in 2013/2014.

The appointment with a specialist will hopefully give you some answers but it's not fair that you have been left without for so long.

www.amazon.co.uk/Sticky-Blood-Explained-Hughes-Syndrome/dp/1898030774/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2ZBY46O1CYVE7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4gdBYu-3S51MzMnNHXKn5UH6W7KeRCMiAYjo6AXOqiCMaQrNUYhEMWxBAnLthCsRBbXATWn8kHbgxbpmK6BWTPqW_nJ3SG99vgYueNEUz1I.k7jF2VK-XzVBm3KbUMoZsFTXi7qpCNilmCmGZc43Jb4&dib_tag=se&keywords=sticky+blood+hughes+syndrome&qid=1724573255&sprefix=sticky+blood+hughes+ayndrome%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-1

Figtree11 · 25/08/2024 07:36

Welcome to the thread @Babydust99

@moosey89 i’m sorry about the bfn. I had one on Friday. Looking at a blank space is horrible. I spent over 2 months waiting for the second line to fade earlier this month, and wishing it would turn negative after the molar. Yet back again waiting for it to go positive. Really plays with your mind

Ladyinpink1 · 24/08/2024 22:56

I'm really sorry about the bfn @moosey89 it is so hard to see no 2nd line isn't it. I think most of us tell ourselves no testing, but it's so hard to do, especially if you have your hopes up. Hoping you get good news very soon x

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:42

DonnaWhat · 24/08/2024 22:37

@EmTTC2 I'm sorry to see you have lost your baby. Don't give up hope. I had an mmc in march, a chemical in june and I'm currently pregnant again so anything is possible. Don't feel that you're ever alone. We are all here to support you.

@moosey89 yes, 9dpo is early. You're not out until af arrives. Xxx

Thanks for giving me hope. Delighted to hear that you are pregnant again & all is going well. Did the GP give you progesterone or do anything different this time? Just looking for anything to cling on to at the moment x

DonnaWhat · 24/08/2024 22:37

@EmTTC2 I'm sorry to see you have lost your baby. Don't give up hope. I had an mmc in march, a chemical in june and I'm currently pregnant again so anything is possible. Don't feel that you're ever alone. We are all here to support you.

@moosey89 yes, 9dpo is early. You're not out until af arrives. Xxx

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:35

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:01

Still waiting to hear back from the doctor, but in the meantime im taking vitex 1200mg, vitamin c 1000mg, vitamine E 1000mg, magnesium glycinate 600mg, coq10 600mg, proceive max, vitamin B6 200mg, 5mg folic acid, vitamin D 4000iu, omega 3 with DHA 2000mg. If that doesn't raise my progesterone then the only thing left will be progesterone x

Also, have just added brazil nuts to my shopping order. Thanks for the tip! x

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:31

Babydust99 · 24/08/2024 15:05

@EmTTC2 I'm so sorry you have had to go through this again. Unfortunately I know only too well how it feels. Hope you are getting the support you need but if there's anything I can do to help, let me know

Thank you so much. Also, sorry for your losses. It's so hard when you do your very best and all you want is your baby in your arms, but it doesn't end up that way. All we can do is keep positive & keep trying x

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:27

Ladyinpink1 · 24/08/2024 22:11

I'm really sorry to read this @EmTTC2 sending a hug.
It sounds like you have a great GP who is also going to be a good advocate for you in getting things moving with next steps x

Thank you so much. The GP has been fantastic. I honestly can't fault her. Just waiting to hear back from her now, but hopefully gynaecology allow her to prescribe me progesterone x

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:26

LucyCL · 24/08/2024 22:15

The extra supplements should be good enough to raise your progesterone. Fingers crossed! x

I really hope so. I'm trying my very best. I've also lost 2 stone 3 pounds over the last few months via weight Watchers. Trying everything I can think of x

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:24

MrsS11 · 24/08/2024 14:03

I'm so sorry @EmTTC2 hope you are being well taken care of x

Thank you. Business as usual I'm afraid. Still been at work & doing everything else unfortunately. Just got to put a brave face on even though I'd love to just lie in bed for a bit x

LucyCL · 24/08/2024 22:15

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:01

Still waiting to hear back from the doctor, but in the meantime im taking vitex 1200mg, vitamin c 1000mg, vitamine E 1000mg, magnesium glycinate 600mg, coq10 600mg, proceive max, vitamin B6 200mg, 5mg folic acid, vitamin D 4000iu, omega 3 with DHA 2000mg. If that doesn't raise my progesterone then the only thing left will be progesterone x

The extra supplements should be good enough to raise your progesterone. Fingers crossed! x

Ladyinpink1 · 24/08/2024 22:11

I'm really sorry to read this @EmTTC2 sending a hug.
It sounds like you have a great GP who is also going to be a good advocate for you in getting things moving with next steps x

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 22:01

LucyCL · 24/08/2024 00:01

The pain of a loss after another one... 😔 I am sorry it happened to you.
I had an early loss then I had a CP the next cycle. I think it was very likely to be caused by low progesterone because my body was still recovering from the 1st MC. There is no way to find out the cause.
If you are not qualified to get progesterone, then there is a way to boost progesterone naturally. I took vitamin E, B6, C, Selenium and Beetroot extract. Also I ate 3 brazil nuts every day for the whole luteal phase. x

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Still waiting to hear back from the doctor, but in the meantime im taking vitex 1200mg, vitamin c 1000mg, vitamine E 1000mg, magnesium glycinate 600mg, coq10 600mg, proceive max, vitamin B6 200mg, 5mg folic acid, vitamin D 4000iu, omega 3 with DHA 2000mg. If that doesn't raise my progesterone then the only thing left will be progesterone x

EmTTC2 · 24/08/2024 21:54

Ella31 · 23/08/2024 21:30

I'm so sorry. There are no words. I've been put on progesterone so if you need any advice, please reach out.

Did you find they gave you it easily? Has it made a difference? x

Babydust99 · 24/08/2024 20:47

@Superscientist no they havent done any additional tests so I am paying to see a specialist next month. They just sent me home with a script for aspirin to start immediately and blood thinning injections for when I next get a bfp. I want to know if it is primary or secondary incase something is causing it. I've not heard of the sticky blood book I will try and find it. I have lots of support from my mum and dp thankfully

Superscientist · 24/08/2024 15:40

Babydust99 · 24/08/2024 15:01

Hi everyone I'd love to join if that's OK. We've been ttc since June 2022 and I received a diagnosis of APS in June this year after 4 early losses. I haven't had a bfp in a year now so feel ready to give up. Just feel like we are doing something wrong because we are eating healthier now and taking better supplements than we were before and now we don't seem to be able to get a bfp at all

Hi @Babydust99 my dad possibly had APS. He had a test after having a stroke about 10 years ago. He was on warfarin for 8 years when they retested his phospholipids were normal so he's now just on aspirin. I did quite a lot for reading when he was diagnosed and then prior to ttc my daughter. I found the sticky blood book (I think that was what it was called anyway) quite helpful.
Have they done any investigations to see if there is anything else going on. I can't imagine how hard it must have been to go through reoccurring losses and then struggling to conceive.
Do you have much emotional support at the moment?

Babydust99 · 24/08/2024 15:05

@EmTTC2 I'm so sorry you have had to go through this again. Unfortunately I know only too well how it feels. Hope you are getting the support you need but if there's anything I can do to help, let me know