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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

Does anything actually work?!

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Fallulah · 08/06/2024 10:38

Age is not on our side and we don’t qualify for IVF or fertility help due to age (we might have if GP had referred us properly on time but that’s a whole other story and subject to a complaint). All blood/hormone tests and scans have come back fine on multiple occasions. We’ve now been trying for 3 years so have decided to give it til my next birthday and then explore adoption/fostering. I want to throw everything at it!

In the early days I tested for ovulation and I use the Flo app but it’s pretty obvious when I’m ovulating without going in to detail! I take vitamin B, D, Zinc, folic acid and have taken pre conception gum**s but they messed with my cycle. My partner takes pre conception vitamins for men.

I’m being bombarded with adverts for Mira tracker, Gyna diet, Fertilily and all sorts of other drastic looking applicators.

Do any of these things actually work or are they just targeting desperate people? Is there anything else I should be taking supplement wise?

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MrsTeepee · 12/06/2024 14:09

You can start it any time, just like any multivitamin as far as I'm aware.

Fallulah · 12/06/2024 10:49

Can I start proceive max mid cycle or should I wait til day one?

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MrsTeepee · 12/06/2024 08:43

Another vote for proceive (get the max version for you both), also sex every 2 days without fail irrespective of ovulation, and (possibly TMI, sorry!) we used a fertility cup thing to hold the sperm in afterwards. After nearly 18 months trying, 1 month of all these changes (except the vitamins, had those about 2 months) and we got pregnant, so something worked. We also were on holiday and found out in the last day we were pregnant, the lack of stress maybe helped too. We also cut out caffeine and made sure I ate breakfast every day. Good luck 🍀

Favofit · 12/06/2024 06:08

Thanks @ouchypointy , I might give that a go as well. Will see if there is anything similar near me

CxCxTtc2024 · 11/06/2024 20:44

Fallulah · 08/06/2024 15:12

To answer a few questions…

I’m 43 now. Even if we could afford it, this rules us out of most private ivf. MyBMI is also above 35 which rules out payment plans like Gia (I think that’s what it’s called), although I am working on that.

We’ve both had all the tests, mine at least three times because they kept ‘expiring’ and needing to be repeated each time we followed up to ask what was happening and what the plan was (I have had a really poor experience with this and my GP practice). The only one not had is the hycosys but this has to be requested by Fertility and they now won’t accept a referral.

I’ve just ordered a fertility cup and some proceive: anything is worth a try!

There is some anecdotal evidence of inc in conception rate after hycosy. Even if it comes back good (not blocked), the process of flushing the medium through the tubes can open them. Not guaranteed obviously.
I have been trying for 2 years, never been pregnant in my life. Until after I had a hycosy in October last year before IVF. I then fell pregnant in December naturally (m/c march 😓) and I was just gearing up for my FET next cycle... which hasn't yet arrived and I've conceived naturally again now.
🤯 Mad!
I've also been taking coq10 initially at 150, then 300, then 600mg. Not sure how much of a difference it made.

Fallulah · 11/06/2024 20:18

Proceive max has arrived for me and him.

I also ordered some soft discs… after 15 minutes of trying one out to see if I can get it in the right place when needed I have given up. Just can’t get it to pop back to shape in the right place once it’s in! 😂

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ouchypointy · 11/06/2024 07:51

@Favofit I live in a city which has a small chain of alternative therapies clinics. They had been running a fertility clinic for a while and someone had recommended them to me, by the time I got in touch the nutritionist was working independently so I saw her separately and did the other things through the clinic.

Jeannie88 · 10/06/2024 20:05

Unexplained infertility is harsh! 10 years of our lives ttc, several ivfs, all other sorts of options explored. Am I ok to pm you? X

Crokepark · 10/06/2024 19:51

It's just age, OP. None of the tests will tell you what your egg quality is like at 43. It's not unexplained infertility. It's just age.

Revelatio · 10/06/2024 19:50

partygarden · 10/06/2024 19:21

After my miscarriage I:
gave up alcohol completely,
Started weekly acupuncture (it works)
Daily supplements
Daily walk or run/ relatively healthy diet

I honestly think the alcohol was the best thing as all the other factors I'd been trying for ages. I gave up alcohol for one month and one month late I was pregnant 🤷‍♀️

It was the opposite for me!! I had given up drinking for years. Went on holiday, got very drunk for two weeks, found out I was pregnant a few weeks later!!😂

Juliet194 · 10/06/2024 19:22

Not what you asked, and something that you may already know, but my friend went through the adoption process not so long ago and they found out fairly late in the process that their weight was an issue.

It is probably different depending on which agency you are dealing with, but the one she dealt with said that a BMI of 40 and above was a flat out no for now, while a BMI of 30 - 40 meant having to have more medical tests and having to show evidence of losing weight and eating healthily.

It all worked out in the end for her, but it did mean that the process took longer than she anticipated as she had to lose weight before things could progress further, which took some months. She was rightly annoyed that no one mentioned anything about her weight until they were months into the process already, and it added stress to an already really stressful process.

partygarden · 10/06/2024 19:21

After my miscarriage I:
gave up alcohol completely,
Started weekly acupuncture (it works)
Daily supplements
Daily walk or run/ relatively healthy diet

I honestly think the alcohol was the best thing as all the other factors I'd been trying for ages. I gave up alcohol for one month and one month late I was pregnant 🤷‍♀️

Commonsense22 · 10/06/2024 19:03

EWCM is total rubbish for me. Discharge occurs a full week prior to ovulation and ends completely 2 or three days prior. Misleading...
Everyone is different.

Favofit · 10/06/2024 18:51

ouchypointy · 10/06/2024 18:37

I saw a fertility nutritionist who helped me lose weight, but in a careful way which made sure my body had what it needed - previously I had been a yo-yo dieter with a terrible tendency to use very low calorie diets and she explained this wouldn't help fertility.

I also saw an acupuncturist and a reflexologist. Once I was doing this it took me about 3 or 4 cycles to conceive - compared with at least 3 years of trying before that. I obviously don't know what worked, but I do think something helped as we had done all the 'just relax'ing and holidays, having more sec, having fun etc. For whatever reason my body needed an extra bit of help - second time round it seemed to know what it was doing and only took 2 cycles...

That sounds so encouraging, congratulations! Can I ask how you found your fertility nutritionist?

ouchypointy · 10/06/2024 18:37

I saw a fertility nutritionist who helped me lose weight, but in a careful way which made sure my body had what it needed - previously I had been a yo-yo dieter with a terrible tendency to use very low calorie diets and she explained this wouldn't help fertility.

I also saw an acupuncturist and a reflexologist. Once I was doing this it took me about 3 or 4 cycles to conceive - compared with at least 3 years of trying before that. I obviously don't know what worked, but I do think something helped as we had done all the 'just relax'ing and holidays, having more sec, having fun etc. For whatever reason my body needed an extra bit of help - second time round it seemed to know what it was doing and only took 2 cycles...

VolvoFan · 10/06/2024 17:08

I'm sorry to hear about your struggles, OP. I'm in a similar boat. I've had two natural losses and two IVF losses. The last loss was an IVF one and was diagnosed as an MMC at a 7 week scan. The sac measured about 5w3d. It was our 3rd and 4th embryo, respectively, as we had two put in. We have one left. Because we have a history of recurrent loss, we're seeking a referral to tommys.org.

We're both on Impryl. It's expensive, but it was suggested to us by an NHS midwife. My DH has low sperm, which explains why natural pregnancies are so rare for us. At this point, we're willing to try almost anything. I say 'almost' because there are a lot of scams out there exploiting desperate couples.

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Revelatio · 10/06/2024 16:31

I was told by the acupuncturist that it doesn’t work if age is a factor in your infertility. She said she’d feel uncomfortable in taking my money! Currently on a nutrition plan to improve egg quality.

notmyrodeo · 10/06/2024 16:28

Having been through years of infertility myself EWCM and apps are not as reliable as people think....none can actually tell you if a follicle has been released etc - I paid privately for follicle tracking over several months - I'd give that a go and at least you are then timing things more accurately and know an egg is definitely being ovulated

Flyhigher · 10/06/2024 16:14

Commonsense22 · 09/06/2024 12:30

We are positively old by parenting standards and have been pregnant several times.

OP, one thing that strikes me in what you say is that you've been using apps and symptoms to track ovulation.
To me it's not worth the gamble. This didn't work for us at all. Your ovulation symptoms, such as headaches, discharge etc might happen at totally different times to the actual ovulation. They certainly do for me.

There is only one thing that works to identify when you ovulate. Clearblue digital.
If you're "wasting" almost your dh's reserve too soon, it won't work.

What worked for us multiple times is only dtd once per cycle to build up reserves, and waiting until the clearblue test said positive for ovulation.

Good luck.

Same. Only did it once. Think that works

Springadorable · 10/06/2024 13:10

Annoyingly the thing that will probably have the biggest impact is also the hardest, and that's your weight. So I'd spend the money on a personalised diet plan that takes into account your likes and habits to make it easier to stick to rather than more vitamins etc..

sarahc336 · 10/06/2024 13:02

Reducing caffeine is what helped me. I was dubious but it worked after months of trying for dd2

Fallulah · 10/06/2024 12:55

I actually am adopted so it’s something I’d be totally open to! It is quite galling when people tell you to just relax and go on holiday though.

I used Clearblue digital for the first year but it became so matched with the ewcm (absolutely buckets and clumps of the stuff on peak day) that I stopped because it was telling me what I could see for myself. Maybe I need to do it again for a while just to check.

I’m not very clued up on acupuncture and reflexology and how they may help - more research to do!

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Olika · 10/06/2024 12:06

After I fell pregnant right away with our first but MC it took us 2.5 years to succeed. Only after I started taking Proceive Max and Ubiquinol I finally got pregnant. I did do 16:8 fasting due to my BMI too so maybe all those together/one of those helped.

Peonies12 · 10/06/2024 11:43

Rocknrollstar · 08/06/2024 17:50

I’d say you are trying too hard. Try to relax and have plenty of sex and enjoy it. My mother told a friend of mine to get drunk, and it worked. I’m really sorry for you that you have been trying for so long. You may be one of those couples who give up and decide to adopt and then get pregnant. I wish you well.

This is so insensitive. And don't promote adoption like it's some easy solution or quick fix.

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