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Do you think that early pregnancy tests have caused more trouble than they've solved?

120 replies

BigFluffyHoodie · 05/04/2024 19:21

It seems to me that these early tests show "chemical pregnancies" that weren't ever going to progress. And for millennia women have just had a heavier period, and known nothing about it. But now it's a thing? Rather than just a natural process that peters out.

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RudolfsLeftToe · 05/04/2024 23:00

Dear lord the bullshit being spewed on this thread. A chemical pregnancy is a pregnancy which has been detected by increased hcg but not detected by an ultrasound so basically up to 6 weeks. So that’s up to 2 weeks after a missed period at which point I’m pretty sure most people would have tested…
So glad there’s women out there policing how far the pregnancy has developed and whether it’s far along enough for the woman to feel upset or if she should actually just beat herself up for testing too early.

Upinthenightagain · 05/04/2024 22:46

I think in a lot of cases yes. However I had six or seven ‘chemicals’ before dd1. I started taking aspirin and then I had her, whether the aspirin made the difference I don’t know. I suppose I wouldn’t have known I was conceiving but having problems carrying if it weren’t for the tests.

Wise0wl · 05/04/2024 22:42

A challenge of any pregnancy loss is that there is so little information about it. Until I had two MMCs I had no idea that a MC wasn’t a ‘single event’, I had no idea that there was so little research into how or why pregnancy loss happens, had no idea of the pain and PTSD I’d suffer afterwards. Like birth, it is poorly depicted in popular media, and still rarely discussed.

I am guilty of underplaying the trauma of MC before having one, buying into a common narrative that it’s ‘just’ a heavy period. Whilst you may have a point that not knowing if you’ve had a chemical pregnancy may lessen that trauma, @BigFluffyHoodie, nicely - I wonder if it’s best not to appear to minimise the experience of a CP if you yourself have not gone through one. It is clear from this thread that many women have had helpful diagnoses off the back of early testing and CPs, and in my book any information that gives women power is worth it.

Given so many women have experienced CPs and the trauma attached and many may still be TTC, I also wonder if this board is the best place for this conversation or if it might be more sensitive to ask for it to be moved?

Rosesanddaisies1 · 05/04/2024 21:55

I would quite happily not known so early. It has made waiting through the first trimester agonising, after a previous MC. I think we have too much information available on everything TTC, pregnancy and baby related these days. My mum said she never worried about anything as she just didn’t know, I’m envious of that!

SD1978 · 05/04/2024 21:37

Yes, finding out so early has only increased the heartache for women (specifically) I disagree strongly with the early tests, always have.

idontlikealdi · 05/04/2024 21:31

Fucks sake no edit on app, doesn't help

idontlikealdi · 05/04/2024 21:30

Early detecting first help, it sent me into a whirlwind of paranoia.

UnicornMamma · 05/04/2024 21:28

I'm convinced early detecting tests are a money making con.

They know people are desperate to find out so will sell them playing on that mind thought

elp30 · 05/04/2024 21:27

RuthW · 05/04/2024 19:45

When I started working in the NHS in 1991 we would test for pregnancy until the woman had missed two periods.

I am American and moved to England in the 90's. I missed a period, did a home pregnancy test and it turned out positive so I went to the surgery to have my pregnancy confirmed. The doctor sighed and rolled his eyes at me. He told me that "Americans are notorious for being so hasty and testing this early is unnecessary. I'm surprised you waited a month and not come in the day after conception. Come back to me IF or WHEN you miss a second period."

This was in 1997 and yes, the surgery policy was two missed periods and yes, he was an asshole doctor. When I missed a period in 2001, I waited two months and got yelled at because the surgery policy changed. I just couldn't win.

Grandmasswagbag · 05/04/2024 21:18

I don’t think chemical pregnancies are a medically recognised thing are they ? I remember reading on here that someone’s GP said to them that it’s a term that was basically ‘made up on MN’. I do think testing before a missed period is silly and unnecessary. It absolutely causes more problems than it solves. I’ve had 4 pregnancies with varying outcomes. If people think a ‘chemical pregnancy’ is a medical event then they will be sorely disappointed if they ever have a miscarriage. At 12 weeks miscarrying 1st pg I was told by GP to go home and have a cup of sugary tea. I was outraged at the time but now realise it was actually quite good advice.

Fluffycavut · 05/04/2024 21:11

TheSnowyOwl · 05/04/2024 20:27

Not heard of implantation bleeding? Can be just like a normal period.

Err... No implantation bleeding is supposed to be spotting. If it's as heavy as a period you need to see a doctor.

Fluffycavut · 05/04/2024 21:08

I don't think they've helped, people still had phantom pregnancies, and people were still seen after a period of time if they've not fallen pregnant.

But omg the misery on this board! The obsession with line progression and the early testing and disappointment if they don't get a line. It makes TTC a battle zone and traumatic.

QueSyrahSyrah · 05/04/2024 20:57

I completely agree with you OP.

We weren't using contraception for 3 years before I conceived (partly actively trying, partly just letting nature take its course).

I only ever tested if my period was late. To do otherwise had the potential for totally unnecessary angst and heartache.

lifeisawillow3 · 05/04/2024 20:49

I'm torn. Having had 4 miscarriages including a chemical I'm not sure if it would have been better to just not be aware. Ignorance is bliss. We are still TTC now.

EmpressOfTheThread · 05/04/2024 20:27

What a strange thread. So.
I'm off now, so I'll just add a good luck to anyone trying to conceive. It can be a tough journey 🌷

TheSnowyOwl · 05/04/2024 20:27

EmpressOfTheThread · 05/04/2024 20:23

? I know when you have a period!

Not heard of implantation bleeding? Can be just like a normal period.

TheSnowyOwl · 05/04/2024 20:26

A chemical or early miscarriage is still one that happens past the stage most women have missed a period.

If someone wishes to have an abortion, or needs to take specific medication (or stop other medication), stop drinking, stop taking recreational drugs, change the job role etc then they are good reasons to know before you are five weeks’ pregnant.

EmpressOfTheThread · 05/04/2024 20:23

TheSnowyOwl · 05/04/2024 20:21

Most women have their missed period before being five weeks pregnant though so how does your logic there work?

? I know when you have a period!

Kalevala · 05/04/2024 20:23

I would never test before my due date so the super early ones make no difference to me.

Without home pregnancy tests I wouldn't have been sure if I was pregnant or not until I miscarriaged a baby I lost. I could never have mistaken it for a heavy period (at least I had never experienced a period like that, some women might), so I would have known but at least I wouldn't have got attached to the idea of my baby first.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 05/04/2024 20:22

EmpressOfTheThread · 05/04/2024 20:18

My sister who works as a clinical researcher in the field.
Anyway, it's to reassure people on here that even if it's happened a few times, it doesn't automatically mean there's not going to be a successful pregnancy without intervention.
A woman's choice, to test whenever, of course though.

Well plenty of clinical researchers disagree with your sister. Maybe you should widen your knowledge pool and see what other people think too. Be interesting to know who your sister is. Many of us who have experienced loss are pretty familiar with the names of significant researchers and groundbreakers.

TheSnowyOwl · 05/04/2024 20:21

EmpressOfTheThread · 05/04/2024 20:02

It likely does happen to every woman and doesn't indicate anything particularly wrong, it's just an evolutionary mechanism to prevent a faulty embryo developing.
When I was trying to conceive, it was the late 80s/early 90s. I could only test after a missed period, and in all honesty I'm glad because I would definitely have been like some of the women on here, testing very soon after ovulation. So many threads asking for line eyes and I think just wait until a missed period.

Most women have their missed period before being five weeks pregnant though so how does your logic there work?

muggart · 05/04/2024 20:21

muggart · 05/04/2024 20:18

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Whoops posted too soon.
Was going to say I think it's worth noting that the NHS policy of waiting for 3 miscarriages is going to be partly based on cost control NOT on what is best for women. Medically why would we not want to know what is going on with our bodies- especially if there's something that needs to be treated?

muggart · 05/04/2024 20:18

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EmpressOfTheThread · 05/04/2024 20:18

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 05/04/2024 20:14

Not sure where you’ve heard that. Recurrent miscarriage clinics disagree with you, and that’s why they are just called what they are - miscarriages- when it comes to meeting criteria for investigations.

What do they know, though?

Edited

My sister who works as a clinical researcher in the field.
Anyway, it's to reassure people on here that even if it's happened a few times, it doesn't automatically mean there's not going to be a successful pregnancy without intervention.
A woman's choice, to test whenever, of course though.

Cheepcheepcheep · 05/04/2024 20:18

From the perspective of someone who never had a chemical or a miscarriage, I agree - I tied myself in knots in the year it took to conceive DD, and I wish it hadn’t been so easy for me to do that.

But then I think of my sister, who had multiple chemicals when it turned out the issue wasn’t the egg meeting the sperm, but just an implantation issue that was easily sorted - and I think maybe that knowledge helped her get pregnant more easily.

I’d also say that infertility is on the rise. And we need to know why. So I’m very tentatively going down on YABU, because knowledge is power. Maybe 50 (or even 30) years ago it would have been useless knowledge, but we have more science now, and I think that alone makes early PG test worthwhile.