Icsi ivf may 2024

@BakinABaby thanks, we all deserve to have our little babies .. wishing us all the bestest luck .. hopefully we are a lucky thread 🤞🏽✨🙏

@Ilovebees yeh I was thinking the exact same .. they would need to have started to do something yesterday for it to be any impact ?? Will soon see as waiting on my scan now.

Awh I am really sorry to here you have so many loses .. you are a strong woman to still be going through this and trying again. It must be frustrating for you with unexplained, I wonder why they prescribed you steroids , are they to help stimulate ovaries ?

@Ilovebees @hopefullsosbry Oh my, that’s so heartbreaking! I couldn’t even begin to imagine how hard that has all been. I’m extra 👉👈for you now (I mean fingers crosses but I can’t find it)

@hopefullsosbry and I’m sorry to read about your losses , this is absolutely heartbreaking ! I have had 7 losses myself around 6 week ish . So I know how you must feel , I had 5 natural losses and 2 ivf . I have recurrent misscarrige diagnosis , unexplained as nothing can be seen wrong including chromosome testing and bloods and scans . But this time I’m on steroids , just incase it’s immune related , which is something I have never tried before . So here is to me , waiting on my first ever baby ! Do you have any kids ? X

@hopefullsosbry thank you so much for your well wishes for me !
I will let you know how today goes ! My app is around 11 am .
yes I’ll be drinking sports drinks after egg collection and I also heard coconut water is good too ! So I’ll be buying that .
and I’m praying that your right ovary is catching up a bit too ! I was just thinking that if your right ovary catches up , wouldn’t the follicles be very small compared to the others that have grown already ? Would they be left behind regardless even if they have started to grow now because they’ll be a lot smaller than the leading ones you have at the moment ( the 6) on the left ? Sorry if I sound so negative , but trust me I’m not , I’m just thinking realistically 😘like my head is thinking about 100’s of things like what ifs 😝I guess I try to guess the outcome before it’s proven to lessen the blow of dissapointment :)

@Ilovebees yes that’s right , the 14mm will be gone no doubt by the time I EC .. not sure if the lead folicle has higher success rates than later to ripen follicles , I think there is conflicting research on this .. but I’ll just get what I get and have to hope for the best .. I am 41 now .. and partner 43 so we are both old 🥴old eggs and sperm🙈 .. been ttc since 36, had two natural conception loses and 3 Loses through last ivf round .. ah fingers crossed for you that you get afresh round .. I have heard drinking lots of electrolytes help ease ohss.. drinking lucazade sports helps someone else and she didn’t get to bad with it ? Maybes check with yoor nurse today if she recommends that ? Best of luck for your scan today also .. I’ll keep you all posted how it goes.. pray for right ovary activity for me haha 🤞🏽🙏

@hopefullsosbry awww I see ! So you have 6 under 10mm which means that they want these 6 to be the main runners who make the eggs , the 14 mm might run away by the time the 10mm are ready ? Hopefully not ! Let’s hope and good luck for the scan ! Hopefully they have all evened out in sizes with the 14 mm . They say that follicles grow 1.5-2mm a day . I have a scan today too to see if I trigger tonight for Fridays collection . Can I ask how old you are ? I am 32 and possibly have borderline mild pcos . I guess that’s why I have so many follicles , which maybe isn’t a good things because I will have to wait for fresh trasfer which I so desperately want and never get 😄😝:(

Unless my right ovary picks up in the next few days ??? Fingers crossed 🤞🏽

@Ilovebees they have said I’ll probably be on them until Friday as I had 1 folicle at 14mm and 6 under 10mm so they will look tomorrow but said I prob will need to keep going until Friday they will do another scan .. and EC Monday .. but my right ovary isn’t doing anything .. these follicles are all from my left .. it’s not responding for sone reason ? It did the last time so I dunno why it not this time .. ? But seeminly eggs from the right ovary have higher success rates than from the left .. so it’s not looking too good 🤨

@hopefullsosbry oh wow your day 10 tomorrow I will be day 11 ! So about the same ! I think I will do my trigger tomorrow as planned , which means I staimmed for 10 days total as planned form the beginning ! Actually the last 2 days they reduced my dose so I think that means then eggs should be near enough ready tomorrow for trigger .
@hopefullsosbry how many days are you planning to stim ? Could tomorrow be your last stims if all well ? I’m starting to feel a bit uncomftable from today . My job is physical so I feel it more when turning twisting .

@Lcm11 yes it makes perfect sense from what you said ! They want to save the best day 3 embryo just incase the second one doesn’t get to day 5 so at least you’ll have day 3 one already secured to trasfer . But I still wonder why they just don’t let both get to day 5 , I mean if the best day 3 failed on day 5 , wouldn’t it fail after trasfer anyways inside the body ? I think I would feel more comftable knowing it’s already day 5 in a lab instead of wondering if it got past day 3 inside my body ? Do you know what I mean ? But let’s hope they thaw it and you never know it might turn out perfect blast :) if they decide to do that ! X

I'm with abc IVF and my procedures are being done at Create Fertility. I'm still confused but I think they freeze the best embryo on day 3 and if you end up with a day 5/6 backup blastocyst, they thaw and culture the day 3 embryo to day 5, but if you don't end up with a backup blastocyst, they thaw the day 3 and transfer on your FET. Does that make sense to anyone else? It hasn't been explained very well as the calls with the embryologists were so brief.

Yes I was at risk of OHSS as I have PCOS, high AFC & AMH and had about 30+ follicles during stims. They gave me a non-HCG trigger as apparently that can help prevent OHSS. Also injected cetrotode and blood thinners for 5 days after EC to help prevent it. I've not had any symptoms of OHSS so it must have worked. X

@Ilovebees tomorrow will be day 10 of stims and is my 2 scan .. had my first on day 8 of stims (Monday) they think I’ll also have a scan on Friday and EC on Monday next week.

@Lcm11 aww thanks for explaining , it does make sense to be fair , lots of follicles = ohhs , fluid !
ok so you got 2 embryos , great ! Can I ask why didn’t they let the day 3 embryo get to day 5 in the first place ? Like why did they freeze it at day 3 ? Was this your choice ? Personally I would also thaw this day 3 embryo to see if it gets to blastocyst because I suppose if it doesn’t then it wouldn’t do so inside you either ?! Or am I wrong ? Maybe better environment inside the body and it would make it inside but not in a lab ?
did you also get ohhs ? Is that why you doing FET now ? Xx or did you trasfer fresh and it didn’t work and now fet ? Xx

Hi @Ilovebees sounds great. I think they opt for a freeze all if you get lots of follicles as these fill up with fluid and that causes OHSS. That's what I think but not an expert by any means!

I have ended up with 2 embryos in the freezer - one 8-cell day 3 embryo and one 4CC blastocyst. Apparently they might thaw my day 3 embryo to see if it makes it to a day 5 blast. I've found the calls from the embryologists at my clinic pretty awful tbh they've been very unhelpful. The calls last approx 1 min, they just want to get off the phone ASAP. Interested to see how yours go as it's really put me off my clinic tbh. Hope you have a better experience (I'm sure you will). I have a follow-up with my nurse on Friday to discuss next steps with my FET.

Good luck to you all with your EC & scans this week. Excited to hear how they go! X

@hopefullsosbry hey lovely ! I wish I could do fresh cycle but I think I might have too many follicles which means risk of OHSS? I think they won’t let me in my opinion , I have had one egg collection 2 years ago and I also got mild OHSS, and didn’t get fresh trasfer , so I think it’s looking similar this time , I really don’t know if it depends on how many eggs you get or how many follicles you have !
what day is your 2nd scan of the stims ? Is it like day 8? Xx

@Ilovebees hi.. welcome to the group .. that’s amazing, good numbers of follicles .. best of luck with your scan tomorrow , I have my 2nd scan tomorrow .. won’t be long for you until EC ! Will you be doing a fresh transfer ?

Hi girls I would like to join too ! I’m on day 10 on stims and going for my last scan tomorrow and hopefully trigger wednesday and egg collection on Friday whoop !
I had 17 follicles on right side and 15 on left , but I think about 10 have been growing nicely in sizes , that was on Monday , so Wednesday another scan so let’s hope the 14-17 mm are now 20! Today should be my last injectionS which takes me to day 10 ! Good luck ladies xx

Yeh I was day 8 (yesterday) wasn’t 1st scan also .. another tomorrow .. hopefully my right ovary starts producing some 🤞🏽

Ok, that makes me feel better, it seemed everyone was getting scanned on day 6-7 etc. @hopefullsosbry My AMH is 7.smth (1.1 ng/mL), but that was checked more than a year ago tho.

@BakinABaby I only have my first scan on stim day 9 they confirmed and measured all the larger follicles, I don't see the need in earlier scans, my previous clinic insis6on a scan on CD 2 so full flow ( not the nicest experience) then day 6 and day 9 ... Imo it was too much, as they literally showed nothing

@BakinABaby good luck for Thursday .. I think they can kind of tell but your AMH number ? I might be wrong but I am sure they can judge how your body will react to the stims from that ? High numbers usually need less stims and low AMH usually need higher dose with longer protocol? Am sure you will be ok as long as you don’t have any really bad cramps etc ?

Exciting news! @camelinastorm hope you get many good cooked eggs on Wednesday. @hopefullsosbry hope you have a good scan on Wednesday, too! Wednesday seems to be a busy day here 🤗.

I'm on day 7 of stimming. Two more shots and then a scan on Thurs. Now I'm wondering if it's perhaps too bold of the doctor to leave the first scan so late (day 9) given it's my first cycle and she doesn't know how/if I'll respond. She seemed to take some professional pride in saying usually she only needs to do one scan, but I hope it's founded. I did do some research before picking her. Anyways, excited for Wednesday. Other than that the shots are just making me so sleepy and dumb, hitting the bed at 10 while I usually stay up until 1.

Hope everyone is having an excellent day!

@camelinastorm best of luck with the trigger and EC on Wednesday 🤞🏽.. yes I have heard also they keep developing, seemingly average rate of follicle growth on stims in 2mm a day .. so you might get over your initial 6 woop !! Go girl 😁

@Lcm11 yeh fingers crossed.. even if I just get one .. if it results in some baby cuddles at the end of it then I’ll be happy 🤞🏽✨ sending us all lots of lucky stuff ! Come on we can do this !! 💪🏽😁🤞🏽

@camelinastorm they told me that the follicles keep growing even after the trigger shot so they still have 1.5 days so they might catch up. Good luck with the trigger tonight - how exciting!

@hopefullsosbry funny how they all say different things. Worst case scenario you still have 6/7 on the left side so that's good. You might maybe get some more on the left too? No I stayed on the same dose as well.

@Lcm11 oh thats interesting that your other ovray wasn’t doing much till 3rd scan .. hopefully I’ll have a similar outcome .. I did ask the nurse is it likely to start developing and she was a bit like ‘probably not now’ kinda swaying her head but didn’t seem that it would do so that’s good news , thanks for that .. yeh staying on same dose.. 300Ui of ovaleap .. did you get ‘upped’ on your dose ?