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Icsi ivf may 2024

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Cloclo93 · 17/03/2024 09:22

Hi ladies I thought I'd create this thread to support anyone doing ivf in May 2024, it's great to have other people to talk to going ture the same thing!
My background I'm 31 with low AMH of 3, suffering from secondary infertility 2.5 years ttc had a failed IVF cycle in February where my 4 mature eggs just failed to fertilized so we have been advised to do ICSI for our next cycle! I decided to give my body a break and get back into end of April/may depending on how my cycle returns:)

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camelinastorm · 20/05/2024 14:45

Thanks @Lcm11 it's crazy when the come at you with all the sizes I'm like just telle what ones are good and what are bad. Yes don't be to hungry up on the grades I had a 4bb transfered and nothing

@hopefullsosbry trigger is tonight egg collection Wednesday wish they would let the others catch up but then it's risking the ones the correct size

Lcm11 · 20/05/2024 14:29

@hopefullsosbry thank you that's made me feel better, I needed to hear something like that!

That's positive you have 6, I'm sure you'll get some on your right side too. I had the same during my stims as you but opposite sides, nothing exciting on my left side until the 3rd scan. Are you staying on the same dose?

@camelinastorm yes I had a really big variety of follicles sizes too. They discounted the really small ones when we were talking about follicles, how many eggs to collect etc. and just counted the large and medium ones. Always makes me laugh how it sounds like I'm talking about chickens. 🤣

Sounds really positive for you both. Won't be long until EC!🤞🏼

hopefullsosbry · 20/05/2024 14:03

Hi,

@Lcm11 that’s good you have two so far .. I got told not to get to hung up on the grades as you can get grade A’s don’t make pregnancy and grades C’s can do and do the grade doesn’t determine the quality as such , it’s just a means for the embryologist to grade the development.. also last round we had the same , two that were looking a bit ‘duff’ on day 5 and they said they would leave it till day 6 and one the became a grade A !

@camelinastorm that’s really good you got 6 that are good size, when is your trigger ? Or will they keep you going on injections? I think it’s normal to have a range , I think it’s deciding whether to leave you longer or take from the initial 6 that they have to determine what outcome will give the most eggs ???

I had my 1st scan today and have 1 follicle at 14mm and 6 are under 10mm that’s from left ovary .. right ovary not doing anything .. I have to continue with jags and another scan on Wednesday but she thinks I’ll still have to continue with jags and EC next Monday is her guess but will see what the upcoming scans say. also booked in for ICSI as male factor but she said will see on the day as last time his sample was good for ivf so it’s just a waiting game (still) for us .. they will just let the 14mm one go over and discount so we can get the smaller 6 .. 🤞🏽 I wonder if there is any research done on whether the 1st folicle eggs to ripen are more likely to have live birth then folicle eggs that develop later in the stims ?? Just out of curiosity would be interesting to know or if this doesn’t make a difference? 🤔

camelinastorm · 20/05/2024 13:46

Just back from my scan (day 9 of stims )had 6 very good sized follicles 19mm-22mm and about 6 slightly behind, another say 8ish were very small, has anyone had this much size variety?

Lcm11 · 20/05/2024 11:38

hopefullsosbry · 19/05/2024 12:54

@Lcm11 have you had anymore updates on how your wee embryos are doing ?

Hi, so today is day 5. They froze one top grade embryo on day 3 and called this morning to say they are also going to freeze a day 5 blast at 4CC grade, which Google seems to say is very low quality. There's two more that have reached blast stage but they're not currently good enough to freeze. They're going to give them until tomorrow.

Feeling slightly confused by the whole thing and not sure how to feel. I know we should be really happy with 2 frozen (and potentially 1-2 more tomorrow) but I'm worried that one was frozen on day 3 and the other is a day 5 blast but really low quality.

Any way I will see what tomorrow brings and try to remain optimistic. It's such a mental rollercoaster, I feel exhausted by the whole thing. I've also found the embryologists at Create who have called me very blunt & seems like they want to get off the phone ASAP so they aren't very helpful.

Good luck with your scan today @hopefullsosbry, let us know how you get on! X

hopefullsosbry · 20/05/2024 01:01

@camelinastorm thank you , and same to you ! 🤞🏽.. I seem to be ok with the actual injections .. it’s my mood that’s been a bit up and down though .. I’ll keep you all posted after my scan !

camelinastorm · 19/05/2024 20:59

I just can't wait for the injections to stop as I am bruised all over and it's getting very noticeable 🤣

camelinastorm · 19/05/2024 20:59

@hopefullsosbry good luck with your scan tomorrow,

hopefullsosbry · 19/05/2024 12:54

@Lcm11 have you had anymore updates on how your wee embryos are doing ?

hopefullsosbry · 19/05/2024 12:46

Yeh I think every scenario goes round your head as you say. Yeh scan tomorrow is just to check that the ovaries are plumping up fine .. they said 80/90 % of people need to go home and have another couple days of them so I hope Wednesday will scan again with EC Friday ? That’s just in my head but they coukd tell me differently.. last cycle I was 10 days so if all goes same l assume Wednesday night for trigger ? Did they say when your EC will be at your last scan ?

Cloclo93 · 19/05/2024 12:09

hopefullsosbry · 18/05/2024 18:04

@Cloclo93 thats good things are progressing.. sounds like they are all going in the right direction anyways ! Woop ..well done you !! I have not had certrodideso I can’t really comment sorry, but I hope you are ok ? Some mindful meditation always helps for me when I feel a bit anxious.. I am good. Just plodding on with the stims, the bleeding I had seems to have tailed of today so that’s a good sign but i actually don’t feel any mild cramps now that I was feeling before so I am now wondering if the stims are even working now ? Scan on Monday will tell me what’s going on so I just have to wait ! Do you feel your mind goes into overdrive about everything that can go wrong ??? Whether it is the added hormones or just the stress of it all who knows but mentally I can’t wait till it’s over whatever the outcome so I can be at peace in my head again 🥴

Oh yeah definitely my mind goes into over drive especially from my failed cycle I was even saying this morning to my friend I'm dreading this cycle I'm more scared then excited but I know things can go wrong and unfortunately that's just the risk of ivf it's frightening the thought of running out of time (well running out of eggs!) Some days it all builds up and gets on top of you 😵‍💫
It's good your bleeding has stopped I'm sure bleeding can be normal considering all the hormones and women steroids were injecting into our reproduction system 😂 I had a small bit of pink discharge last night, on my natural cycle I would be due to ovulate today so I hope I don't!🤞 what time is your scan tomorrow?? Is this to give you a day for EC?

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hopefullsosbry · 18/05/2024 18:04

@Cloclo93 thats good things are progressing.. sounds like they are all going in the right direction anyways ! Woop ..well done you !! I have not had certrodideso I can’t really comment sorry, but I hope you are ok ? Some mindful meditation always helps for me when I feel a bit anxious.. I am good. Just plodding on with the stims, the bleeding I had seems to have tailed of today so that’s a good sign but i actually don’t feel any mild cramps now that I was feeling before so I am now wondering if the stims are even working now ? Scan on Monday will tell me what’s going on so I just have to wait ! Do you feel your mind goes into overdrive about everything that can go wrong ??? Whether it is the added hormones or just the stress of it all who knows but mentally I can’t wait till it’s over whatever the outcome so I can be at peace in my head again 🥴

Cloclo93 · 18/05/2024 12:26

Hi everyone hope everyone is doing okay? I had my 1st scan yesterday day 7 of Stims, showed I had 11 follicles the largest been 13mm and smallest 2 is 4mm so very varied in size! My last cycle I had 11 follicles and got 4 eggs so I would be so happy to get 4 eggs again 🤞
I also started cetrodide on Thursday but I think it's given me horrible anxiety has anyone experienced this? Or it could just be worrying too much about the ivf, it's so mentally exhausting.
How is everyone else doing?? X

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camelinastorm · 17/05/2024 16:17

@hopefullsosbry my EC is due to be next Wednesday scan depending on Monday.

hopefullsosbry · 17/05/2024 13:09

Ah ok .. best of luck with it all .. when is your EC agsin ? I am hoping my will be next week 🤞🏽

camelinastorm · 17/05/2024 11:09

So I take menopur for stims and the cetrodide to ensure the eggs stay put until EC, hope hope this makes sense

camelinastorm · 17/05/2024 11:04

@hopefullsosbry ah yes understand yes my pill would have been the down reg, my cetrodide is the one after (last few days) the stimulation the one to stop you naturally ovulating until the trigger before the EC

hopefullsosbry · 17/05/2024 09:25

@camelinastorm my 1st round two years ago I had the pill .. the down regs are just sort of the same .. basically what the nurse told me was it puts your body in a mini menapuse.. to sort of kick start everything (hormones) so they can be 100% clear when your period /cycle starts .. to then being with the stimulating drugs (stims) to stimulate the ovaries.. so your pill may be classed as a down reg . As it stops the period .. then when you come off it your period starts (so they are trigging your period and know / are clear when your cycle begins .. does that make sense .. am rubbish at explaining 😂 not sure what the cetrodide is av not had that , do you take them every day until your scan ? If so then probably your ovary stim drugs , I am on ovaleap and I know with that one it’s in the evening , same time every day it’s to be, so i do it 7pm every day. Hope that helps 😁

camelinastorm · 17/05/2024 09:11

@hopefullsosbry @BakinABaby sorry to seem a bit dumb, what are these downreg injections? I was just placed on the pill for 1 month before, I start cetrodide today did anyone get recommended a time to take this one, I cannot remember from my last round

hopefullsosbry · 17/05/2024 08:42

@BakinABaby oh no that’s rubbish .. I got a really big spot on my chin from the decapeptyl jag .. and have a few very small pimples from the ovaleap injections ! It’s really rubbish huh ! Just want this EC to happen this month so I don’t need to go through all this again ! Fed up with it now 🥴

BakinABaby · 17/05/2024 08:04

Oh another thing, and I know this is an irrelevant complaint in the grand scheme of things, but since the diphereline shot my face has gone to sh*t, I'm breaking out all over and It's not serving :/

BakinABaby · 17/05/2024 07:58

@hopefullsosbry oh, that’s bad news, I’m so sorry. I hope if still works out and you can continue.
I had diphereline for down regulation. It seems the bleeding is drying up today so I hope that’s that.

hopefullsosbry · 17/05/2024 07:16

@BakinABaby ah ok.. what down regulation shot did you have ? I had a jag of Decapeptyl two weeks before starting the ovary stims.. I did bleed then (like a normal period) this is meant to happen , and was tailing off when i started stims (was only little brown when wiped that morning of starting stims .. sorry for TMI .. but it seems to have come back , she did say the jag of Decapapeptyl was new as it use to be a nasal spray before ? Hopefully the Decapeptyl is ok for using and we are not ‘Guinea pigs’ if you see what I mean .. hopefully it doesn’t turn out to be something that isn’t that good ? Am too old to be wasting time as she did say on phone might have to cancel this round and go with a diff month .. I just feel sh!t now as I feel this cycle will be over before it’s even started .. fed up and can’t find any info of anyone having a bleed anywhere on stims so I can see what their outcome was !
sorry for the rant .. 🥴 will just wait and see . Hopefully you feel ok and are not sore from the bleeding ?

BakinABaby · 17/05/2024 04:55

@hopefullsosbry I have a bit of bleeding still from the period I got after my down regulation shot and I am hoping the stim shots finally put a stop to them. It’s not a lot but it’s fresh and red, going on day 9. If it doesnt stop my midday I think I might call mu doctor just in case.

hopefullsosbry · 16/05/2024 21:50

Hi and welcome @20MacHen22 hopefully the stims are ok fir you starting tomorrow!

I have had a bit bleeding today .. slightly more than spotting, but not heavy .. has anyone had this while on stim injections? I am on day 4 of stims ? I called the nurse but she just said it shouldn’t be happening but not unheard of, not sure whether I should be worried or not ?