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Luteal spotters and successful pregnancy?

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purplecolouroffunk · 13/02/2024 12:38

Hi everyone!

Looking for pregnancy success stories from our luteal spotters.

I know there are a few great old threads on this topic, but thought I'd start a new one for more recent stories.

I get spotting from around as soon as 5DPO, and have done for 5 years. It continues til AF 'proper' arrives, and usually stops for a couple of days in the middle.

I've had the day 21 progesterone test - it came back low BUT I've since realised I had the test at the wrong time in my cycle. I was counting day one of spotting as CD1 which I now think is not correct.

I have another progesterone test this week which will be one week from suspected ovulation. I get ovary pain and EWCM each month. I also had peak OPK from testing for the first time this month. So I suspect I am ovulating. I don't have high hopes for this next progesterone test though, because I don't see what else could be causing spotting so early after ovulation.

We've only just started TTC but I'm 35 so I'm already anticipating this being a problem - it's making me worried and getting me down. I was pretty much fobbed off by doctors for about 2 years. They said bleeding for sometimes up to 17 days is 'normal but just unlucky'. I had to go and do my own research and push to even have a hormone test done. It's crazy.

I wondered if there are any other luteal spotters here who've had successful pregnancies? I'm struggling to understand how my lining can ever build up enough to maintain a pregnancy if I'm spotting from 5DPO.

Any stories or similar experiences would be very much welcomed! 💜

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Haylsttc · 20/02/2024 18:24

@purplecolouroffunk thank you! The b6 has definitely reduced my spotting, I now only spot for one day before AF is in full swing. It didn’t really extend my luteal phase by much though it’s still only 10 days. However I worked out I would have been 9dpo when I got my bfp with my last pregnancy so a 10 day luteal phase must be enough if implantation is early.

@Frankie2607 let me know how you get on with the high strength vitamin c, I have some in my cupboard but haven’t tried it yet! I’ve also been reading about agnus cactus which is meant to be good for increasing progesterone levels naturally, so I might give it a try next cycle instead of the b6 if I get a bfn this current cycle!

@purplecolouroffunk @GreyHoggy I’ve never had my progesterone measured, I need to wait until 12 months of trying again since the missed miscarriage before my doctors will do it. I am tempted to pay for the test privately though!

As for my the progesterone pessaries requirements @purplecolouroffunk if you’ve had a miscarriage in the past and experience spotting in early pregnancy and the pregnancy is detected in the womb the EPU should give you progesterone as per the guidelines.

GreyHoggy · 20/02/2024 10:00

@purplecolouroffunk great your progesterone is ok, but understand sometimes it's easier if something isn't right so you can sort it.

@Haylsttc sorry about your miscarriage. That is also one of my worries if I actually manage to get pregnant. Have you ever had your progesterone measured? I started taking B6 this month so will see if it makes any difference.

Frankie2607 · 20/02/2024 08:33

@purplecolouroffunk I get what you mean. Although you never want them to find something, at least if they do it could potentially give you answers.

Yep same test. My doc said it will look at my progesterone levels just to ensure I ovulated. After that she kinda said there’s not really any further testing they can do. Well, not on the nhs at least.

@Haylsttc interesting about the B6. I’m also taking a high strength B vit complex after doing some research. I found that they also said a high strength vit C can help progesterone naturally. First cycle taking it and too early to tell yet, but I’m intrigued! I’ve literally done so much research it’s a joke 😂😭

Can’t shy away from the fact were desperate to get pregnant again. Literally would do anything.

purplecolouroffunk · 19/02/2024 22:30

Hello @Haylsttc! Thanks for sharing!

I’m really sorry to hear about your miscarriage - I hope you’re doing okay.

That’s interesting about the B6 though. Did you find it helped with your spotting? I actually started taking it a couple of weeks back but haven’t noticed anything different in my spotting this month, but maybe too early.

Have you had a low progesterone result? It’s really sad that not everyone is offered the pessaries. Did you mean you meet the requirements because you’ve had a miscarriage. That seems so unfair 😔

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purplecolouroffunk · 19/02/2024 22:26

@Frankie2607 thanks! I guess I’m glad that my progesterone isn’t low, but it’s making me even more confused. I worry it’ll just give the dr even more reason to help less.

I hope your test goes well! So it’s the same progesterone test that I had? Does it look at the amount of progesterone and evaluate that against whether it’s likely you ovulated or not? I hope it helps you with some answers!

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Haylsttc · 19/02/2024 20:54

Just jumping on this thread to share my experience!

I’ve always tracked my period even before ttc, not ovulation though. I noticed that I would spot for a few days before my period fully arrived but I didn’t think anything of it until we started trying and I found out what a short luteal phase was.

I started taking 100mg of vitamin b6 daily after researching how to increase your luteal phase. The first month I took it I fell pregnant! I was sure the b6 helped me fall pregnant. Sadly the pregnancy ended in a missed miscarriage, I’m convinced due to low progesterone but we’ll never know.

I’m ttc again now and have taken the b6 for a few cycles with no success so perhaps it was just a fluke. Hopefully when I do fall pregnant again, given my history, I’ll be offered progesterone pessaries as I now meet the requirements, which is sad in itself that not everyone is offered it.

Sorry that turned into a bit of a ramble but I just thought it was worth the suggestion in case it helps someone else get a bfp 😊

Frankie2607 · 19/02/2024 20:06

@purplecolouroffunk Glad you got your results back. Will be interesting to see what the doctor says about them. Makes you wonder what else is going on if it’s not progesterone. Let us know how you get on ☺️

I’ve got my “day 21” blood test next week. Very intrigued to see what it says! My doctor did say though the only thing that test proves is if you’ve ovulated or not. That’ll give peace of mind, but might not give me the answer I’m looking for.

purplecolouroffunk · 19/02/2024 14:36

Okay so I called the doc and there's a note on my file to say 'result satisfactory'. So it looks like I don't have low progesterone?!

I'm going to book a phone appointment with the doc tomorrow to chat it all through but that seems so odd given the length of my spotting. I was 100% expecting it to be low. I guess it might still be on the lower side, which I'll find out tomorrow, but I'm so surprised!

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purplecolouroffunk · 19/02/2024 10:12

Hey @Frankie2607! I'm so glad. This thread has brought me so much comfort too. It's so nice to hear success stories from other spotters and to have the support :)

I'm still waiting to get my progesterone results back. I had the test on Wednesday so I'm hoping to hear back v soon. If I've not heard by tomorrow I might give them a ring as I'm not entirely convinced they'll call me if they come back normal.

Good idea not tracking ovulation. I've heard about so many people that started thinking/worrying about it less and went on to be successful ❤

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Frankie2607 · 19/02/2024 09:31

@purplecolouroffunk How’d you get on recently?

And how’s everyone else? ☺️

I’m not a massive MN poster, but this thread gave me so much comfort, so thanks guys. We’ve decided not to track ovulation this month bc, tbh, it drives me insane! I actually feel quite hopeful, but that’ll probably change 😂

GreyHoggy · 14/02/2024 13:49

@purplecolouroffunk I think I will definitely ask for another test at 7 DPO, then if there is an issue they can hopefully help.
Let me know how your test results turn out, fingers crossed you get some answers!

purplecolouroffunk · 14/02/2024 12:44

@Eddieegg hehe don't worry, I have exactly the same with BMs too! This is the exact same as me really - pink until a BM, then a bit more red. And it goes on and off. Interesting to hear that was the same during your pregnancy.

I think the only way I really know it's AF is because it becomes consistent and heavier, whereas the spotting always stops and starts.

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purplecolouroffunk · 14/02/2024 12:41

Welcome @GreyHoggy! It's so frustrating not having answers isn't it. Definitely push for another progesterone test if you can. I just phoned the dr and told them I'd calculated wrong and they let me have another test.

I had the second test today at what I think is 7 DPO, so I'll be interested to see the results. Like you though I really suspect the progesterone is causing the spotting cause I just don't see what else it could be.

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Eddieegg · 14/02/2024 11:35

I also had quite a short luteal phase of about 11 days, again I was expecting this cause issues ttc but in the end it didn’t seem to. Means my days were slightly out from LMP when dating my pregnancy but that’s about it.

Eddieegg · 14/02/2024 11:32

purplecolouroffunk · 14/02/2024 09:41

Can I ask my fellow spotters how heavy our spotting got before your positive test? I’m 7 DPO now and trying to work out if my spotting is too heavy to be able to expect a BFP this month. It’s not red yet, but a fair amount of pink.

Sending good vibes to everyone this week!

My spotting used to be fairly heavy especially after straining on the toilet (sorry if TMI) - a BM used to be the first start of the spotting with fresh blood and it was pink the rest of the time, turning darker and more like a period a couple of days before my proper AF arrived. The month I was pg was the same from what I recall, except as it got closer to AF being due it had got lighter instead of darker and there was less and less of it instead of more. AF would usually arrive with bad cramps but obviously it never did.

I also had quite a bit of spotting throughout my first trimester, unsure if it’s linked though. Scans etc have never picked up any problems associated with the bleeding and it’s been put down to hormonal changes/sensitive cervix.

GreyHoggy · 14/02/2024 11:25

Following as in a similar position. 35 and have been TTC for a year but start spotting from about 9dpo. Had all the tests and no issues, though dr insisted on taking progesterone on day 21 even though I told him I have a 40 day cycle and don’t ovulate until about day 27. Going to try and get another test done for that as I'm convinced low progesterone is the problem.

purplecolouroffunk · 14/02/2024 11:01

@PennyPenny1 I'm in the same boat - loads of tests and no issues found either. So I'm certain it must be progesterone. I can't quite decide if I want it to be or not 😂Feel like the road will be easier if it is low, but also having low P isn't ideal. Will hopefully have the result of my second test by the end of the week.

Thank you! That's actually reassuring to hear. I've got some easy@home tests on the way, so will probably wait a couple of days to keep an eye on the spotting, then give it a bash. Will keep you updated!

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PennyPenny1 · 14/02/2024 10:50

@purplecolouroffunk the consultant gynae I saw suggested the pessaries before I brought it up but I was planning to try my hardest to get some haha. I don't see what else it could have been other than a progesterone deficiency - I'd had two uterine ultrasounds, smear test, colposcopy and biopsy and no issues found. I'm breastfeeding at the moment and haven't had a period since I gave birth 9 weeks ago so I'm intrigued whether I still spot when my periods start again.

To answer your other question - the month after my CP I bled quite heavily at about 9DPO to the point where I thought my period had arrived early but then had a very faint test the day after. Wishing you loads of luck and let us know how you get on! 🤞🏼

purplecolouroffunk · 14/02/2024 09:44

*your spotting, not our collective spotting 😂

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purplecolouroffunk · 14/02/2024 09:41

Can I ask my fellow spotters how heavy our spotting got before your positive test? I’m 7 DPO now and trying to work out if my spotting is too heavy to be able to expect a BFP this month. It’s not red yet, but a fair amount of pink.

Sending good vibes to everyone this week!

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purplecolouroffunk · 14/02/2024 09:36

@PennyPenny1 good advice - thank you! I’m hoping it’s easy enough to get a private referral too.

So even though your progesterone was low end of normal did you just push for the pessaries explaining you were spotting much earlier than you should, therefore don’t know how you could implant? I’ll definitely give it a go!

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TheBirdintheCave · 13/02/2024 22:20

@Frankie2607 I took one a day until I got my positive test then explained what I'd done to my IVF clinic (I was between frozen transfer cycles and thought I'd try naturally whilst we were waiting) who were thankfully supportive and recommended I up it to two a day.

TheBirdintheCave · 13/02/2024 22:18

@purplecolouroffunk Yep! I can't say if it was the progesterone or whether it was because I was pregnant though. I assumed progesterone as I'd used it in my failed IVF cycle and didn't bleed until I came off it.

Also, yes I'm in the UK :)

PennyPenny1 · 13/02/2024 21:50

@purplecolouroffunk I had to get a letter from the GP for my private referral and then contact the healthcare company to book the appointment, all quite straightforward but I think I did have to wait about a week for the initial letter.

It's definitely worth asking your GP about the pessaries, mine said she couldn't prescribe them but maybe some will?! I ended up having to take the pessaries until I was 24 weeks in the end and there was a bit of a discrepancy between whether my GP practice would give me a repeat prescription or whether the maternity unit should and was told it was down to funding 🙄. I wouldn't have thought that you'd need to have a miscarriage or CP before they prescribe them if they do think that low progesterone is the issue - I hope they don't anyway!

The only thing I'd really say is to push for the pessaries even if your test results come back as normal as mine did...

purplecolouroffunk · 13/02/2024 21:21

@Eddieegg congratulations!! ❤️

This does bring me a lot of comfort - thank you! I’m 6 DPO right now and spotting started 5 DPO but it’s so hard to know if it’s just the usual spotting or not.

It’s so nice to feel like I’m not alone! 🙂

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