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Trying for second baby long time, anyone else in the same boat?

181 replies

Anies · 16/03/2008 21:30

Hi,
we have been trying for our second bay for over a year and a half, once again great disappointment tonight...Wondering, is there anyone else in the same situation who would like to share this? I am currently having acupuncture and herbs, they are making me feel much better in myself, also will have second NHS appointment with specialist on Tuesday to discuss options. Just thinking about embarking on assisted methods...Anyone else going through this? It canbe very lonely...

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hattyyellow · 19/03/2008 11:25

Cheers for all the reassurance! Have left a message with my local acupuncturist...didn't realise there was one within a 10 minute drive .

Billy I should give blood too, am also rhesus neg.

billysitch · 19/03/2008 11:24

Mistle, thanks for that, but I am a whimp!

I have a friend taking me to give blood soon as I am a nightmare with blood, needles etc and sunk veins! I am A rh Neg so should get the courage to give eh.

I am going to try it, but now thinking maybe acupuncture may help the fear after reading all the posts. Maybe I should try that first?

mistlethrush · 19/03/2008 11:08

Billy - I wouldn't have done - was going to a chineese herbalist prior to ds - turned up to appointment knowing that I was pregnant, she said, OK, no more herbs, I'll do some accupuncture on you instead. I wouldn't have gone if I had to book in for it though. But its marvellous. Only very occasionally do you get a sharp pain (but this isn't as bad as the 'sharp scratch' for blood tests etc) - quite often I get very clear feelings like an electric shock but not painful. I have been known to fall asleep during treatment....

pincushion · 19/03/2008 11:02

Registered dyslexic and dont know how to get spell checker on this!!!

billysitch · 19/03/2008 11:00

There is no WAY I could let someone stick pins in me, god you lot are brave.

I am more of a yoga girl myself, practicing buddist and meditate regularly, I find that tends to keep me even. Mind you cant spell for toffee!

(look out the inner hippy is making herself known).

pincushion · 19/03/2008 10:57

Och I dont think that links worked - thought I hadd done it right!

pincushion · 19/03/2008 10:56

HY - yes said AF apin couased by inbalance and it has gone. if i get preggers he will be able to help me have more peaceful preganancy and labour ( I had traumatic experience ending up with a general and a CS, so am also quite nervous about that). Have a look at his web site

((acupuncture4infertility.org/aboutus.aspx))

wonder if that will work, if not google Michael Gorman accupauncture, solihull.

I find it helps to balance me, i am prone to getting terribly het up about little things and although some of the needles are nae the most pleasant, my heart rate always drops to 60 ( normally around 80) and I am sleeping alot more deeply - apart from that automatice alarm that wakes you up at 0530hrs every morning called DD !

billysitch · 19/03/2008 10:52

I know I have a LOVELY pram/buggy/nightstand Silver cross that I have hung on to, but dreamt of putting it on ebay!

cedar12 · 19/03/2008 10:50

Maybe I should get rid of it all, was thinking about ebaying the buggy. I would probably get pg the next month worth I try I have tried everything else.

hattyyellow · 19/03/2008 10:49
billysitch · 19/03/2008 10:47

Can agree on clearing out, I do every now again, just to try and spark 'sods law' principle!

cedar12 · 19/03/2008 10:46

I know what you all mean about the baby clothes I have just 5 year worth of dds clothes up in the loft. Just end up crying when I try and sort them out. Has anyone else tried reflexology I find it loads more relaxing than acc. I fall drop off after about 10 mins.

billysitch · 19/03/2008 10:46

Yup me too.

Have been trying for our second for about a year, had two miscarrages so far, but feeling positive overall, what will be will be, here.

I do go from should we bother carrying on, to I WANT ONE NOW. Husband very cool about me blowing hot and cold, so that helps. I kind of want to jump the 9 months to waking up in labour somehow, bit daft me spose!

Hey ho we just keep a practicing, obviously we NEED to before we get it right eh! .

Good luck to All

xx

merindol · 19/03/2008 10:39

Thanks for HSG reassurance Cedar12, and good luck with the theoretical chilling out!

merindol · 19/03/2008 10:35

I find acupuncture really calming and relaxing. And even if that's all it does, that's got to be a good thing, right?

cedar12 · 19/03/2008 10:34

Gosh this thread is getting busy.
I hope you got some sleep Anies and are managinging to keep your eyes open today!
Welcome Merdinol I second what Anies said about hsg it not to bad. Pressure feeling and some period like cramps during and afterwards, take some painkiller about an hour before and that should help. This tcc does seem to take over your life I seem to be happy the first half of the month and then spend the rest of the month worrying about whether I am pg or not. Not feeling so bad this month as there isnt much chance of getting pg as I am due to ovulate from my tubeless side it is possible of it to happen but quite rare. So trying to chill out this month in theory anyway.
Pin cushion try not to worry about work most women have to work now. We certainly couldnt live on dh wages alone. Just make sure every now and then you get some pampering.

mistlethrush · 19/03/2008 10:31

I'm doing accupuncture at the moment too. Very relaxing. Mainly for sleep problems (ie waking up at 3am and that's if for the rest of the night)

HY - I know what you mean about clothes etc - we've held onto everything 'just in case' - I sometimes wonder if I got rid of it all whether that would result in miraculous +ve just to be awkward.

hattyyellow · 19/03/2008 10:27

Is it not painful? I had acupuncture once combined with osteopathy, and I felt awful afterwards...and he managed to draw blood in the back of my hand with one of the needles! Put me off for ages! I have heard good things since though...did your acupuncturist say that the AF pain was caused by the imbalance?

pincushion · 19/03/2008 10:23

Yep think you can. The accupuncture has amazed me..... years of crippling pain and then my first pain free AF - apparnelty its becuase my yin and yang were out of balance!!

hattyyellow · 19/03/2008 10:19

Sorry crossposted with you pincushion...acupuncuncture sounds very interesting, might have to try that too...can't you get energy drinks with brazilian ginseng in?

hattyyellow · 19/03/2008 10:17

Eek! Are we married to the same man?

One of my closest friends has PCOs and wonderfully had a little boy at Christmas, I am dying to talk to her about it but I know that DH would hate us to talk to anyone else about it.... My mum had 5 of us and never stops going on about us having more children!

You poor thing, it must be such mixed feelings of being thrilled for your sister but not wanting to be discounted from the world of newborns...

pincushion · 19/03/2008 10:16

Todays picushion news is that she has started taking brazilian ginseng ( recommended by accupuncturist) its to give me more energy and helps with hormone regualtion. He felt it mught help me to have more zing to balance my life.
I will give regular updates on my energy levels!
Have another pricking tomorrow and although there is no way am up the duff this month - as DH has been away, the jiggy will begin when I go on leave tomorrow.

Please dont say you can only concieve in the afternoon as that means I am doomed!!!

Any one any chat on the CF situation - cant quite bring myself to start checking that - thingk that was form the zita west book?

iwillbepositive · 19/03/2008 10:13

Welcome hattyyellow! My sister has also asked (twice now) if we can pass on our baby stuff - she is due in june. Surely it doesn't take a genius to guess why not! I nearly cried last time she mentioned it.

I wonder if telling people will somehow help by releasing some grief and making people more sensitive, but DH isn't keen (I think he feels we will get a load of nosey questions about what is wrong and his manhood will be questioned!)

hattyyellow · 19/03/2008 10:04

Hi, can I join? So many of your posts ring so many bells!

I have twins who are 2.8, concieved naturally second month of trying. Had convinced myself due to this that we were super fertile - in fact the first month we started trying again we only had sex once around what I thought was ovulation time and were still convinced we would hit the jackpot!

Anyway, 9 months on and no joy. I'm pretty convinced that I have PCOS, although I'm still well within my healthy BMI range I have a number of other classic symptoms.

Doctor is doing an internal exam in a few weeks to start the process of trying to find out if something is causing our lack of conception. Can I ask what is the HSG? Is that the internal scan in the hospital to look at ovaries etc? Am dreading the doctor's internal enough!

Comforting to know I am not the only one secretly thinking that if I fool myself I am switching off enough I will magically concieve! To make matters worse, my Dh's cousin has just had twins and my MIL is nagging me daily to donate them all our baby stuff. I just want to scream "use your brain, woman, can't you think of a reason why I might be reluctant to give it all away just yet!?"..

Every month I start off managing to concentrate on career and be grateful for DDs' without needing any more children. And then as my period approaches I turn into a hormonal mess whenever I see a newborn! I see my girls starting pre-school and getting closer towards school and having an empty nest in one go and I feel sad that they will rush through our lives so quickly and that the toddler stage is fast disappearing..

and...breathe...

merindol · 19/03/2008 10:03

Iwillbepositive, I'm so glad to find another person who thinks time of day might be key! I've only dared confess this sneaking suspicion to a friend who couldn't help laughing, although v gently and supportively. But I know that the three times I've got preg were following midday sessions (in the days when we were carefree enough to have midday sessions -- fat chance now). Unfortunately, I never seem to ovulate on a weekend when we might dump dd with grandparents.