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TTC for 18+ months and feeling low!

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Natty2 · 02/09/2023 14:42

I'm fairly new at this forum and decided to join after TTC since the start of 2022
We discovered earlier this year that my DH morphology was low, although all other results were normal. He implemented life style changes straight away, and even went through a varicocele embolisation a few months ago, so we're waiting to see if that's helped.

Having gone through the rest of the year undergoing tests everything seems normal, so the NHS are not letting us even get on the IVF list until 2024. It's been such a long, physical and emotional journey and there seems to be no end in sight.

Anyone else going through similar things? I feel like I live life in 2 week cycles and it's so hard to try and not think about it all!!
Any tips?!

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missmoosh · 22/05/2024 18:39

@Natty2 oh you really deserve for some luck with it all! Glad you didn’t have to wait 3 bleeds, such a long time to wait! do let us know how you get on and will be thinking of you!

Natty2 · 22/05/2024 18:26

Hi @missmoosh all ok here thanks, can't believe you're already 30 weeks!!

@CatCaretaker that's amazing news, congrats!

@Emz09 hope your IVF journey goes well. Here if you have any questions!

@LucyLoopyLu been wondering how you've been doing?

I'm actually just on my natural FET cycle (we didn't have to wait the 3 bleeds in the end) I've had an early day 8 scan today to check the lining which is already at 8mm. The plan is to go back in on Friday and keep checking the size of my dominant follicle and take ovulation tests twice a day from Friday to check my natural LH surge. If the follicle is big enough I may need to take a trigger injection and then fingers crossed transfer will be 5-6 days after that. After having two fresh transfers cancelled this year I'm not holding out any hope until I'm finally there but hoping we start getting some luck our way soon.

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missmoosh · 21/05/2024 18:20

@CatCaretaker and the new meds helped a lot, still throw up occasionally and get nauseous but much more manageable now!

missmoosh · 21/05/2024 18:19

@CatCaretaker ahh the early scans are so reassuring, glad to hear all is well and not too long to wait until your 12 week scan! Hopefully those symptoms are all you get! First trimester is tough!

@Emz09 hope you don’t have to wait too long once it’s all signed to get started! I know I never actually made it to starting, but the apprehension feeling I remember well. I cried when the meds arrived as it just felt so real then. I really hope it all goes well for you!

I am good, 30+3 today with a very active little girl! So into the final countdown now to meet her! I will say once you do get that positive, the anxiety steps up! I think waiting so long to get a positive as well, made me so nervous throughout this whole pregnancy.

CatCaretaker · 21/05/2024 18:17

@missmoosh are you still suffering badly with hyperemesis? You had started new medication in your last update?

Emz09 · 21/05/2024 18:02

@missmoosh hi!! I hope you are well? 🤍

We have received our paperwork for IVF funding so just need to get it all signed and sent off, they said clinic will be I touch 4-6 weeks after...I'm so apprehensive!

@CatCaretaker amazing news! Congrats x

CatCaretaker · 21/05/2024 17:56

missmoosh · 21/05/2024 17:54

@CatCaretaker ahhh amazing news! So happy for you 😀how are you feeling?

Ravenous and a bit tired, but otherwise totally fine! I've had an early scan and all is well too :-)

missmoosh · 21/05/2024 17:54

@CatCaretaker ahhh amazing news! So happy for you 😀how are you feeling?

CatCaretaker · 21/05/2024 17:52

CatCaretaker · 11/04/2024 12:30

AIBU...

I'm 6 DPO and I just 'feel' like it didn't work, again. I have no evidence either way, of course. AIBU to put any faith in my feelings, or is it silly to think that my feelings on this mean anything at this stage, and that I'm likely just pessimistic after so much failure?

For what it's worth, my feelings were completely wrong. Now 8+1!

missmoosh · 21/05/2024 17:47

Hey, just wanted to check in on how everyone was getting on ❤️

LucyLoopyLu · 13/04/2024 16:03

@Emz09 aw thanks lovely. No my husband has just had sperm analysis done, nothing else other than HIV/Hepatitis screening before the IVF cycle. I guess it might depend which trust you are in though?

@Natty2 thanks for the info, yes it makes sense if you both agree you are willing to try 2 cycles anyway to pay for that in advance. I think we will need to have a proper think and a chat, and get more info from whichever clinic on the cost of what's not included, so we can make a proper decision.

I'm feeling totally bloated and sore in the belly again today. I was back to my normal size, feeling comfy in my jeans again, around Tues-Thurs, but it's blown back up again. And I just reached up over my head for something and had pain in my ovary type area. Urgh!

Emz09 · 13/04/2024 08:34

Morning all, can I ask when you were going through NHS investigations did your partner have any other tests than the normal sperm analysis? I've stumbled upon the assisted conception policy for our area and it has a chart of all the steps for the hospital to get to a diagnosis and there's tests for men, I've attached it but yeah did any of your partners have these in order to come to a diagnosis?

@LucyLoopyLu hope your holding out ok during this waiting period. You're not a pity party <3 You have every right to be feeling the way you were feeling. x

TTC for 18+ months and feeling low!
Natty2 · 12/04/2024 18:09

We thought about the refund option but decided to go for the 2 multi cycle option no refund
Bit of a gamble, but our consultant seemed to think we'd have a better outcome on different meds (which turned out to be true in the end- although we don't know if they are chromosomally normal!)
We thought if it worked out perfectly, ie get the embryo + enough to freeze and it works first time, then the "worst case" is we've spent about £4k more than the clinic would have charged for one round. It's a lot of money but then we'd be grateful for having a baby!

If it didn't work out then they will cover you either for a second round of EC and unlimited FETs until a live birth, which just seemed sensible to cover. If we did that directly with the clinic the costs would just be out of control!

Also if we didn't go through this option we would have had to have spent £300-400 more as we ended up on another freeze all!
Everything is excluding meds of course 😔

Hopefully nothing you need to get too bogged down with now, but happy to answer anymore questions if you do end up having to do it again

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LucyLoopyLu · 12/04/2024 17:55

@Natty2 oh really? My nurse said you can do the pessaries either way but I feel like it's a choice between two unpleasant choices if you know what you mean! Haha.

Our closest clinic does access fertility, I got the brochure a couple of days ago to look at the prices. Did you go for one of the packages where you get a refund if unsuccessful? Sorry if that's a personal question. I feel like it might be nice to have some money back to go spend on other things as a consolation prize if it doesn't work 😂

We're going on a nice day out tomorrow so keeping positive

Natty2 · 12/04/2024 17:11

@LucyLoopyLu ah yeah I haven't had the joy of using the progesterone yet, I've still got all my boxes unopened since Jan! I've been told to do them rectally when it comes to transfer which should be fun...
if you do end up needing the second cycle (although I'm still trying to be hopeful for you next week!) do your local clinics work through access fertility? We can chat about it if it gets to it, but that was a sort of "insurance" option we went for this time round.
I found the first cycle was super hard with the ups and downs, it's such a rollercoaster. Hope you have something distracting planned for the weekend

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LucyLoopyLu · 12/04/2024 16:17

@CatCaretaker tbh I think it was getting my head around the bad news about the quality of the emrbyos. When everything was looking good on day 3 I was hoping for a good quality fresh transfer and maybe 1 or 2 frosties as back up. Instead it feels like we've wasted a cycle, and because they needed to use ICSI rather than IVF, which we didn't expect, it's likely going to cost a lot more now when we move to our next round(s).

I might feel differently next week but at the moment I am assuming this is a failed cycle so not really stressed about the TWW as such.

CatCaretaker · 12/04/2024 15:18

@LucyLoopyLu it really is. Thanks, I was just having a wobble that day.

This two week wait must be a very hard one for you?

LucyLoopyLu · 12/04/2024 14:17

@CatCaretaker I get that feeling too. I think it's hard not to when you've been disappointed so many times. I think it's totally normal x

@Natty2 I'm ok thanks. I was upset on Monday and really weirdly tearful and emotional on Wednesday but other than that I've been fine this week. I've done a lot of googling which may have been a mistake. Far too much phone time. Emotional ups and downs not helped by progesterone! I'm also worried the pessaries are giving me thrush now as well.

How are you doing?

Natty2 · 12/04/2024 06:37

@LucyLoopyLu hope you are doing ok, been thinking about you all week!

@CatCaretaker not silly to always feel like that. I'm 2 years + now. I felt like that all the time pre IVF and even through the complicated ivf journey! Infertility is tough. Hope you're doing ok

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CatCaretaker · 11/04/2024 12:30

AIBU...

I'm 6 DPO and I just 'feel' like it didn't work, again. I have no evidence either way, of course. AIBU to put any faith in my feelings, or is it silly to think that my feelings on this mean anything at this stage, and that I'm likely just pessimistic after so much failure?

Emz09 · 10/04/2024 19:33

@LucyLoopyLu I am so so sorry to hear about your transfer day. I will be keeping you in my thoughts and staying positive for you and a positive outcome! Star

missmoosh · 10/04/2024 19:06

@LucyLoopyLu dont forget it's totally okay to let yourself be down in the dumps about it all! It's not been an easy journey and now this has happened too, try not to bottle it up!

I'm alright thank you, new sickness meds are helping a lot more than the previous ones! Actually managed 2 short workouts this week!

LucyLoopyLu · 10/04/2024 18:24

@missmoosh thank you, it has been very up and down. Had a few low points but I'm trying to stay stoic. There is still a chance so just have to wait. I don't think the progesterone is helping my mood! I've also had indigestion all week which is very unlike me.

How are you?
Anyone got any other updates than my pity party? 😂

missmoosh · 10/04/2024 15:31

@LucyLoopyLu i am so sorry to hear that. Hoping one of the 2 they put in surprise you. What a horrible rollercoaster of emotions you must be going through. Thinking of you and your husband ❤️

LucyLoopyLu · 10/04/2024 13:06

@CatCaretaker transfer was Monday. They will book a follow up consultation once the negative pregnancy test is confirmed next week. They couldn't give us any answers about why they didn't develop well. I don't know if it's something they can fix as there could be so many reasons, some of which we just don't know.
We likely won't continue with the same clinic as it's far away from where we live and we only get one round funded.

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