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Thread for sufferers of recurrent miscarriage

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OracleInaCoracle · 29/02/2008 13:56

There seems to be a few of us, so thought i'd start a support thread.

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HeidiS · 05/03/2008 09:45

oh lissie
I'm not going to say anything...
just send you good vibes

mistlethrush - I can understand your worries that trying for dd2 could jepodise dd1's mum. but what are the chances of having another mp? And if you're aware of the risk and make sure you get checked out the minute you suspect you're preggers... I don't know, I'm bit ignorant when it comes to all this...so maybe I'm wrong?

Like I said earlier - we got pregnant with dd1 with no problems and it was a perfect pregnancy until the end of w36 - she was sitting on the exit and the docs were considering trying to turn her with outside manipulation. During the scans while they were trying to decide whether to try and turn her, they saw she hadn't gained more than 200 grams in the last 3 weeks - and because they thought there could be a problem they whipped her out with a cs. She was 2.3kgs and fine -
But now, after the problems ttc dd2 - the docs have been saying it might all be related - how they can't say

I guess I thought ttc dd2 would be as easy as dd1 - and all the drama took me by surprise

OracleInaCoracle · 05/03/2008 09:20

im ok really, doesnt help that my period (refuse to say af... my anuties were all sweet old ladies who didnt make me feel ill and ruin my clothes) is due today and i have no sign of it. not a peep. and i cant bring myself to test...

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mistlethrush · 05/03/2008 09:09

I got scan with ds at 6wks and 9wks, so I know where you're coming from. Strong hb at 6wks. At 9 wks really had a jumping bean - which is just what I've got aged 2.10 now... - just can't keep still, breakfast often has to be interrupted so that he can run round the kitchen table several times!

But Lissie - Noah was obviously meant to be, as was ds, despite problems. Since then, we weren't so lucky and beans not 'meant to be' for what ever reason. I know its hard. (((hugs)))

OracleInaCoracle · 05/03/2008 08:53

tbh i find it worse this time around. I had a lot of problems when pg with ds and bled from 5w-20w. had numerous scans and so cant think of the beans ive lost as foetuses. because noah was a foetus that size. and i saw him.

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mistlethrush · 05/03/2008 08:50

I'm lucky - I don't find it as bad this time - but I did have to wait for 6 yrs with a lot of heartache for ds, so we were pretty desperate for No1. I'm not saying that I wouldn't really like to have another, but what with the 2mc and the shadow of mp each time it happens, still wonder whether we'd be better just settling for 1. Before ds but after mp episode we'd agreed that, if mp came back we wouldn't try again, but see if we would be accepted to adopt. When you've got that far but still managed to get a dc, you just realise you've got so much to be thankful for. I am very broody and very when I see pregnant people (including our secretary at work) though...

HeidiS · 05/03/2008 06:50

I thought that the want/need for a baby wouldn't be as bad strong this time around since we do already have a dd. But no...want another baby - want one now
The man (and it must have been a man) who designed the hospital I go to, is an a$$. The clinic for recurrent mcs and for infertility is right next to the delivery rooms.
So while us poor infertile/problematic types wait for our turn to go into the doc we sit and listen to women scream and groaning through contractions and then the occasional scream of a new born baby.
um yeah...not too sensitive hey

mistlethrush · 04/03/2008 22:00

I think that one of the worst things was that all the other people being treated when I started treatment had children - and some of them thought I did, although that was my first pregnancy and had mc at about 10wks. Also felt that I was a fraud when I was in hospital - as there are only 3 treatment centres in the country, you're in places where most people have fairly drastic (or very/terminal) illness - and there you are looking OK and not having anything apparently physically wrong with you... Although I would be dead by now if I hadn't had the treatment.

So, all this ttc and mc stuff pales into insignificance given I now have one beautiful, delightful ds. Would just really like to have a sibling for him as he is really sweet with younger children, and there would be 'less pressure' on him in terms of needing to be a success etc...

OracleInaCoracle · 04/03/2008 19:33

tis a bit.

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HeidiS · 04/03/2008 19:29

lol
Thanks lissie
It's like a whole new lang

OracleInaCoracle · 04/03/2008 18:55

mp= molar pregnancy
dc= dear children.

after a few weeks you'll ber thinking in anacronyms

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HeidiS · 04/03/2008 18:45

Hi mistlethrush

Ouch on all the blood tests - poor hubby - 5 attempts

Sorry - need to raise my newbie hand and and ask...what's mp and dc?

sigh

seriously...isn't there a cheatsheet somewhere?

OracleInaCoracle · 04/03/2008 18:43

hi mistlethrush, cant imagine what a mp must be like

heidi, im counting down days til af's due (thurs) i will NOT test before.

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mistlethrush · 04/03/2008 16:52

Can I join too? Hi Lissie we seem to have been on the same thread before...

3 mc - one prior to ds (now 2.10) - turned out to be mp so not allowed to try for dc for a year after treatment stopped - so ds took 6 yrs to eventually arrive after starting to try. 2 mc since - both autumn - 06 and 07 - 06 took a long time to get back to normal and scared s*less that mp coming back - dh put off trying, so quite difficult to ttc without full cooperation. He's not been so bad since last summer, despite mc in Oct.

Recently been referred - had all blood tests done, waiting for the results - appointment April (they took an armful)(mind you, it took 5 attempts to get any from dh )

HeidiS · 04/03/2008 16:34

I'm gonna think positive this month!

For the first time since before my very first pregnancy my period is behaving...

In a few more days we're gonna start trying and I may just do some of that dancing

Who else here is using their fingers to count off the days 'til they think they're O'ing?

OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 18:00

thanks franny, olivia just pop it in requests. will have to report your post im afraid but will speak to you on a different thread.

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FrannyandZooey · 03/03/2008 17:57

Olivia my dear, you are spamming the board

just put one request in (pay your fee to MN) then leave it

OliviaJournalist · 03/03/2008 17:57

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OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 17:46

loli read a book by Jane Green called babyville pre-ds and in it a woman does a fertility dance and gets her dp to carry juniper berries in his pocket, oh how i laughed...

i am on the brink though....

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HeidiS · 03/03/2008 17:43

lmao
maybe i should try that with my awful mil

my 3rd m/c was a suspected ep. at first they couldn't find anything - so they put me in hospital. then they found something small went in and d&c'ed me and said that's that. Then i started getting calls from the hospital saying they tested the stuff they took out and it wasn't what they were wanting - and my beta was about 16 - so they wanted me back in the hospital...they sent me for yet another blood test (when i started all this i was terrified of needles) and my beta had thankfully fallen below 3 and they didn't need to do the whole shove a camera through my bellybutton thing. After all that the docs just said that where ever i had whatever...my body seemed to have taken care of it so i cold go home...
I tell, these docs don't exactly inspire confidence
I'm starting to think of going in a different direction...going to a tarot card reader and letting her tell me when to shag my poor hubby (who has gotten very good about being woken up in the middle of the night and told to saddle up) or maybe I'll try dancin' nekked out under the stars...chanting something...something fertile - hell, at the moment I'm ready to try anything...can you tell?

OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 17:30

lol, most of the ancronyms are made up. an ep is an ectopic pregnancy.

the sample shows the level of NK cells more clearly than blood tests. its different to RH bloods because the cells live in the endometrial layer.

i now flit between "we had sex last night, i stuck my bum in the air and my CM was nice and watery, so maybe we'll get a sticky one, eh?" and telling them in graphic detail what we've been through. normally shuts the feckers up!

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HeidiS · 03/03/2008 16:07

lissielou - oh hun, I'm so with you on that. Only what's pissed me off especially in the past week is people looking at our dd and saying things like "what - only one - why haven't you/aren't you/don't you want another one" - or "come on, you better hurry up and work on the next one"
I know none of the people know we're having problems and it's not intentional. But damn people, talk about salt in the wound.

re. the NK test - why do they need to take a sample from the endometrial for that? Is it becuase you're also RH - ? Becuase I've just been having coombs (sp?) blood tests for that

you also said you had one ep - what's that? seriously, is there a page with acronyms that I was supposed to study?

OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 15:24

a few of us now...

heidi, LWH is liverpool womens hospital. they have a fab recurrent mc unit. the NK cells test means taking a sample of the endometrial layer and rules out (or in) antibodies attacking the foetus.

bit pissed off today. fed up of everyone else thinking "ooh, shall we have a baby" and bang! and fed up of people asking if we are planning any more.

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Dropdeadfred · 03/03/2008 11:08

I have 3 dds. 2 were with a previous partner and i had no problems conceiving or carrying them.
DP and I have tried and tried for a baby..and eventually after 4 mcs we were blessed with a little girl nearly three years ago now. Since we had her we have tried and failed to have another 9so far) and have had 2 further mcs...

HeidiS · 03/03/2008 09:26

Lissielou - what's LWH? And what does NK cells testing involve?
I'm also O- and hubby is A+ - so I keep having blood tests to make sure I'm not making antibodies vs any babies.
The whole thing is driving me quite mad - I used to be able to set my clock by my ms but since I had that first d&c it's been all over the place...
Was a few days late this montha and started getting all excited over a false alarm.
Even if we do conceive I'm going to be a nervous wreck until I make it to 9months

Emmsy1 · 03/03/2008 05:55

hello girls, its really heartbreaking reading some of your stories, I wish you all the luck and success in the world, especially you lissielou, I take my hat off to you, the courage and determination you show after so many miscarriages

I am a very lucky lady, I have 4 beautiful children. I had a mc back in 2000 a blighted ovum, which was discovered at approx 9 & 1/2 weeks. I have also had two recurrent miscarriages 1 in April 07 and 1 in September 07. I am currently pregnant and today am 29 days past ovulation (the last miscarriage happened at 29 days past O)I am still very worried that this bean may not stick and definately wont try again if it doesn't. But as I pointed out before I am lucky to already have 4 children, best wishes to all.X

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