WHAT DO WE WANT??...BFPs WHEN DO WE WANT THEM??...NOW!!!! symptom spotters and 2wwaiters brand spanking new thread [grin]

Well if you have wet fluid at all, get to it, JB.
I had next to no egg white until 2 days after DH and I had sex this cycle and it does seem to have done a trick of sorts...

I winced at that picture. I had no idea what it looked like and am now armed with too much information!! There is no need to let DH in on that .

I think that being fatalistic is the best way to be. I really do hope all is well for you.

I'm very well thank you CD 13 today . Waiting for ov now

Thanks Mibbes, me too (of course).
Then I can finally join you on the AN thread.

Ha Ha PMSL at cervix model !!!
Scary I really hope the scan shows a teeny weeny beany tomorrow

Or spouting even.

Thanks JB, am feeling quite fatalistic (is that a word?) this evening. Que sera and all that (although secretly I am hoping to get a nice surprise, of course!).

I hide my copy of TCOYF from my DH too. No man needs to know what a cervix souting EWCM looks like. In truth, I am not sure I needed to know either...

Are you well JB?

scary You are so right!! Her expression is very thoughtful! I'm sure all those without a copy are desperate to get their hands on these pics!

I had no idea she thanked her cervix model PMSL! What a job!!

Good luck for tomorrow scary. Will be thinking about you.

I hope it is fake gunge.

I love the way that in the credits she thanks her cervix model. Tee hee.

The most cringy bit of the book is the line drawing showing how you should chek your CM - the bit when the picture woman looks away from her hands and rubs her fingers together. I can almost hear her thinking "hmmmm, feels like Oil of Olay".

It was the first thing I thought when I saw that page , oh dear, just me then!

eeeuugghh JB you have put waay too much thought into that - yuck !! I suspect it is fake gunge

mibbes I can't get over the 'lotiony' picture in TCOYF . It just looks like Oil of Olay or something!! Also, it is the same fingers each time and no woman has all those secretions so are they 'pretend' i.e. Oil of Olay and real eggwhite or is she handling another woman's CM??!

MOB I have been so windy since PG, really loud ones (thankfully they seem to be bad in the evening so haven't disgraced myself in public yet !). So I reckon that is a very good sign. I saw GP today and she was so pleased for me (she had told me last time that loads of women fall PG as soon as they start to do tests), it felt wierd saying it out loud ! I felt like a member of AA or something "Hi My name is mibbes and I am PG !" waaahhhh ! Anyway she suggested I cancel scan as they prefer not to do internal scans if no real need once PG. TBH am happy as just want to leave well alone, if they say they can't see anything I'll just worry. I know am defo more PG than last week as this morning's line (yes I tested again) came up really quickly and was darker than control line !
JB go girl ! IKWYM about the picture in TCOYF, I'd die if DP saw those and asked if I did the 'finger test' with my CM, I'd be so mortified !
GG your DH sounds soo like my DP - he is also very logical and reacts badly to me going on and on about anything, so I had to never actually mention ttc otherwise he'd have felt like I was pressurising him and refuse to BD. Thank goodness I've had you ladies to 'talk' to

Oh GG . DH said those very words to me once when AF arrived... you cannot miss what you have never had . I understand what they mean but really?

I really hope you can convince DH to go private as it seems by far the best solution for you both. Can you just ring and book it?! Private appointments are more likely to fit around you and DH's hectic work schedules. He does work so much and all that stress can't help things. He might be still upset about the test results and anxious about making changes, diet, reflexology etc in case they don't help IYSWIM? I've heard great things and am sure they do have an effect but if your DH is sceptical then he might feel that nothing he does is going to make a difference.

Have you got a copy of TCOYF? It mentions low sperm count a few times and suggests bd'ing every other day of EWCM. Sorry if I am telling you stuff you already know .

hello there everyone.

Ahhhhh, it's The Fragrant Bucky - love the hair, m'dear! Looks lovely. Any sign of AF yet? I am really willing you to get a BFP this month and distract me from my doom and gloom.

Scary - that is good news, so will keep everything crossed that HSG levels have doubled again and everything is in place. keep positive and we're all thinking of you.

My DH is making positive steps, but he can be stubborn. I have to use all my feminine charms and choose my moment carefully to get him to help us. I have talked about acupuncture to him, but he thinks it is (expensive) mumbo jumbo. I pointed out to him that the Assisted Conception unit at our local hospital where DH went to use the wanky porn room gives both men and women acupuncture ON THE NHS when doing IVF because there is a marked increase in sucess rates, so it has been medically proven. I bet if the GP recommends it, he'd do it!

Jolly - we have been TTC for (I actually lose count ) about 15 months. I knew something was not right (and guessed with poor DH) a while ago but it took me until December to get him to his first GP appointment. Because my DH works abroad a lot, holidays and Christmas, it has been a struggle to get this moving forward and he will not rush himself. I am scared if I push too hard he will resist doing anything.

Just heard that DH is off to work in Germany for the next three weeks from next Monday, so he'll miss the EWCM most probably. Him working away again is even more reason to go private - for flexibility. I am worried that he'll miss GP and referral appointments .

MOB - I love quiche, so that is definitely a symptom . You are absolutely right about saying that DH would absolutely melt if he had a DC of his own! DH's own dad was a brilliant, very hands on father and DH is very close to him. I can see he would be a brilliant father. It's getting DH to focus on me/us/having DC's and not his bl**dy work! . Half the problem is that my DH is Mr Logic! His logic is that you cannot miss what you have never had. We are happy together now, we have no DC's, so he reasons that we can be happy without DC's. Grrrr

Big hello to mibbes, picknmix, hatty tinkerbell and beanie. Sorry to anyone missed.

Hello again MOB! You usually ov the day after a positive opk but you can ov on the same day . Do you know how long your LP is? I'm feeling v hopeful for you

Oh yes it will be more of the same when DH returns . He is even taking an interest in the TTC books I bought. I took TCOYF off him though before the photos of the cervix or discussion of using real eggwhite put him off!!

Hello beanie any news from you? Has AF packed her bags?

Morning beaniesteve!!

Cross-posts again JB! Not sure how many DPO i am... i had a on CBD OPK last sunday (9 days ago) but not sure when after that i would have actually ov'd.

Just cjecking in to keep up with the news

Morning JB! Glad to hear it has been "action stations" in your house! DH can have a rest while he is away - ready for more of the same when he returns!!

Corss-posted MOB LOL at the wind!! How many DPO are you now?

Morning all,

scary I know you must be cautious but doubling HCG levels is SUCH a good sign . Fingers crossed for the scan on Wednesday.

Bucky Mmmmmmmmm lovely hair! I really, really hope AF stays away.

mibbes LOL at your taking another test! Glad you are feeling well.

MOB Oooooh symptoms! As mibbes says temping is great. I feel much better knowing when I've ov and watching those temps climb . Hopefully you'll get lucky this month and won't need to temp anyway!

ei Have you managed to hold off testing?!

You'll all be pleased to hear we took advantage of the EWCM yesterday . DH is away untill late tomorrow so we bd'ed again this morning just in case I get EWCM today too! I'm sure he is currently asleep on the train .

Hello to GG, hatty, picknmix, toosoon, tinker and everyone else!

Morning all!

scary that's good news, thank you for letting us know. There must be a bean in there still, so praying he / she stays put for a long time! Fingers crossed for tomorrow, and as EI said, i would have thought that it would still be quite tricky to see, if it is only very recently implanted.

EI i really hope that the cramping is implantation, and not AF on her way.

Mibbes good luck with the GP today, do let us know if you still have to have the scan tomorrow.

Bucky well, now you've washed it twice in a matter of days!!! Is this a symptom for you??!! I hope AF stays away.

TSTT welcome back - here's hoping this is your month!

A morning to everyone else!!

Well i have another symptom to report... bad wind!!!! DH informed me that when he turned over to cuddle me in the middle of the night, there was a rather "toxic" smell!!! (i was asleep, in my defence) so, pregnancy symptom, or a result of my quiche eating (and brown rice and mixed bean salad i had for lunch yesterday) - the latter methinks!!!

Oh and thanks for the 'good luck' Tink and Mibbes I need it!