WHAT DO WE WANT??...BFPs WHEN DO WE WANT THEM??...NOW!!!! symptom spotters and 2wwaiters brand spanking new thread [grin]

Oh, and I hope you get your thyroid test soon. How low are your temps?

God, it's awful isn't it?

I did have a really good gp and a great HV in Fulham, but I have no idea how to go about getting decent care where we live now. My experience when I had my DD was awful, so I really need to see a consultant soon to work out what my options are and then to hire additional help (private midwives, the Portland etc) as appropriate. But today I didn't even manage to get a GP's appointment which is what I called up for!! Ha ha, maybe it's not the NHS, maybe the problem is me!!

JB I think the O was before (by not very long) DH made his contribution. This has been a most strange few days and I am never going to look at my period in the same way!!

Bucky and GG I would love to meet up, especially if there is any chance of a GG dance demonstration!

Tinkerbell you are so lucky having JB for a cycle buddy - she is the luckiest cycle buddy ever I think...

Those symptoms look good Ei

Good luck with the monitor Beanie. I've heard they work very well.

Good for your DH, getting checked out Picknmix

Hope everyone else is ok, mob, hatty, MTW, DG, Shakey and anyone else who I've forgotten, who pops in occasionally or who lurks!

I called the GP today to ask for an appointment. They couldn't decide who I should speak to and put me through to a midwife who couldn't grasp that I had a bleed and since them am pregnant. She seemed to think that I must have been pregnant, had a miscarriage and that my BFPs were from left over hormones. I would buy that except I had a BFN the day before the bleed started. All very wierd. She's asked me to go in tomorrow for another pee test, as if one was needed (I've done 5!! ) but I don't see where that will get me. I shall ask to see a Dr while I am there as I am not really sure how pregnant I am. She was also completely bemused by the fact that I had done a pregnancy test on what appears to be CD7. I explained about temping but she clearly didn't know what I was on about. I predict that a month from now I will have given up on the NHS and booked into the Portland!

i have just bought a forehead thermometer on ebay and have logged onto fertilty friend as soon as therometer arives can start finding out whats going on

picknmix - I am as bolshy as you . Trouble is DH would not appreciate me wading in. It needs to be the softly softly approach. he is being a typical man whose veritlity is questioned and he would go mad at me interfereing, so I have to sit on my hands for now. I know what you are saying though - it did cross my mind to drag DH to the hospital. Doubt they would give the results to me (probably say "data protection" yawn!)

Let's hope that happens to me
Glad to hear your DH is considering having a check done

Crossed posts Beanie - pleased to hear your fertility monitor has turned up. You'll have to let us know how you get on with it (I think it was MTW who got hers and got a bfp in the 1st momth using it?)

Wow!! Scary I am soooooooooooooo pleased for you

GG such rubbish Dr's! I am very (still) on your behalf.... It must be so frustrating knowing that you just need these results and then things can start to move forward. I would be inclined to go into the dept where the test was carried out and just wait until they gave me an answer (but maybe I'm just antagonistic and bolshy!). Not long til the wed appt now though I guess.

Bucky - Finn dog sounds like he's doing very well! I have tried to teach my house rabbit some tricks but it doesn't seem to be all that successful (he has mastered the art of using a litter tray so should be grateful for that I guess!). I live on the south coast so would be up for a meet sometime soon in London if you're happy organising something?

Hatty I am of your night away! Hope you have a fab time - I went away with DH recently for a night to a beautiful hotel, ate so much wonderful food that the saucy undies didn't get a look in, fell into a contented food fuelled slumber as soon as our heads hit the pillow!!

Your symptoms are sounding pretty good Ei

Lovely to see you MTW hope all is going well with you? x

Hope you're ok Tinker and MOB

What happened to ClairePO? Did she pop back in again??

Can't believe we've had two bfps in just one day - fantastic - congrats again Mibbes and Scary!

Ohh, whilst I'm here, was quite surprised that DH mentioned (on the phone - he's still in Canada) that maybe he should get his swimmers checked out (no prompting from me!). Think maybe spending time with his sisters kids is bringing it all home to him....

Congratualetions Scary.

My Fertility monitor has arrived which is good as it'll give me something to do while I get through being annoyed that my late period wasn't a baby.

True to form I have been irritable all day. It was nice not having the during menstrual tension I usually have, even if it's only been delayed by a week

afternoon have done all the cleaning ye can relax here
hi gg period just about to finish so no symptoms only normal cramping.
good luck sg

Congratulations Scary! Still no sign of af here, cd 43 i think. Did a test last night that i found down the side of the bed which was negative although i thought i may have seen a really really faint line so took the test apart and discoved it was just a white/grey strip, the bit that changes colour if you are pg iyswim. At least my eye sight is half decent lol i still have no symptoms at all. Good luck to everyone x

GG It is crap! Especially as your GP can't interpret the results anyway . I'm not surprised this has knocked your happy mood.

Sorry but I LOL at your description of the porn room as 'wanky'! What better adjective could there be .

jolly - I can't understand it either!! The hospital have to run the test/examination or whatever within 30 minutes of DH doing the deed in the wanky porn room with all the free copies of Razzle, so I really can't understand why it takes 3+ weeks for the results sheet to travel 3 miles from hospital to GP surgery. I am really about this now. We are going precisely nowhere towards seeing a fertility specialist. Grrr!

GG PMSL at swimmers with zimmers !
Ei at you getting sorted out ! LOL Temp rise looks promising
JB I usually have a few earth movements during the 'act' and always before DP does his bit . One thing I did notice after what I assume to be the crucial BD was that although it was mid-morning and was unable to lie down, no swimmers came back down - so they all headed on in there
hatty yum menu sounds fab - go for onion tart
Bucky how exciting getting a new doggy ! I'd love one but we are at work all day and I'd be too sad to leave it alone. Headache is a promising sign, fingers crossed ! How many dpo are you ? and I'd love to meet you ladies in RL but am up here in Bonnie Scotland so no chance - Fairy we can do an exclusive Scotland meet-up for 2
Scary love your post (except the birth trauma bit - yikes )

Oh cross-posted GG. How very ! Honestly, how these tests can take so long is beyond me!

ei That is the system in the jollybear household too . I thought I'd read that an 'O' afterwards is better but I am concerned it might also send it towards the exit! Sorry for the TMI people!! Good chart there ei! Fingers crossed.

bucky How exciting! How are you going to keep them apart when she comes into season again? Are you planning puppies?! Are they both Alsations?

GG Any news on your DH's results?

tinker We are nearly cycle buddies! You are obviously no where near me, the sun is behind a massive black cloud.

Good luck to all those approaching testing/AF! We are on a roll as tinker says. We don't want any more AFs on the 2WW thread!!

hatty - you need these chic yet naughty knickers for tonight.

tinkerbell - hyello there - any symptoms to report?

ei - DH's swimmers do need zimmers . They are too few and feeble at the moment, but hopefully a strict remine of vitamins and banning the demon drink will sort him out.

DH still hasn't got his test results back!! How hard can it be???!! Oh and DH's appointment at the GP is on WEDNESDAY now, not Monday. I smell a rat - I think DH forgot to book an appointment and has been fibbing to me and Wed was the earliest he could get when he remembered!!!

wow busy bees today ladies buzz buzz

07mtw- nice to hear from u
bucky- good news about dshs appointment
gg-dance soungds great!!, hope that horrible witch flies in another direction on her broom and doesnt get u
good luck with results and dhs follow up appointment i have been enjoying sun today 2
hy-enjoy your great evening and get out your saucy underwear
jb- we are in same boat i am on cd6 and af seems to have very nearly gone then i am all set for bding every other day
ei sounds promising hope that you get your bfp with all the other lucky ladies we re definetly on a roll here

Oooh Scary how exciting . This is such a shiny happy thread today and with the sun out too....

Hatty I vote onion tart....but then I have an obsessive love of onion. Go figure.

GG Finn was very very well behaved at dog school. Although DP informed me that I was very bossy and did not let him do anything in class. On reflection it is true so I have to buy him a cake or something to make up for it on the way home . We have decided to go with a basic 'wave' and 'ask' (which is basically a politically correct 'beg') for exam tricks. Jollybear Molly has still not got her 'period' as DP puts it...we have to wait for her to come out of season before we can have her home with Finn. Although every trainer and their brother seems to be trying to get us to get Finn neutered right now and I just don't want to. He was put on this earth in nadgers and should be allowed to keep them. . And given that DP is going to have his checked out this is a particularly sensitive subject!!

I have a headache AGAIN today although not so bad as the other day...weird.

Re GGs meet up suggestion. I think this is a good idea. I am meeting DG for a coffee (decaf and a herbal tea for DG) today so will let you all know how she is getting on. If GG,DG and I had never met I would not have such nice new friends! So those of you who aren't too far from London, let us know if you are interested. I will quite happily sort a date out etc.

scary That is such a heartwarming story!! Congratulations again . No one on this thread is going to believe a BFN and start of AF every again though! I know I will be clutching at straws for much longer now .

May I be personal? Did the earth move before or after your DH had made his contribution?! I've often wondered if having an orgasm afterwards might force it back out IYSWIM .

hatty LOL at the meal before undies! Those would be my priorities too, although I'd be thinking about the pudding!

Hi everyone

For those of you who I have confused with my rantings, here's what happened?

10-14 dpo: Clearblue tests give a pencil-like vertical line which Clearblue assure me is not a positive. I rant and demand they send me a digital. First Response and Boots all negative. Boobs look a bit veiny, and I have period-type cramps and back ache but that is all.
15 dpo: period arrives, appears normal and stays for 5 days. Temp dips a bit.
16 dpo: temps are still low, but not below the cover line. I assume this is residual progesterone.
17 dpo: temps start to creep back up.
20 dpo: period stops and I start getting mild headaches
22 dpo: temp hits 36.8 - which is a normal luteal phase temp for me. I start to think I might be lacking estrogen or have a thyroid problem which needs to see a Dr, so I do a Boots test, which came out positive. I posted a thread on this last night ("Could I be pregnant? Is there such a thing as a 3WW?"), as I was so utterly, utterly shocked. Then I located the CB digital they had sent and lo and behold it agreeds. Three more tests done this morning say the same thing .

I think it must be due around 26 November, although if I go for a VBAC I guess it will be late so a December baby.

Things I did differently this cycle:

Less sex (would you believe it, only the once during my fertile window) but I must stress that (ahem) the earth moved during it, and I have read that can help.
DH and I have both taken Zita West vitamins
Acupuncture
Meditation for relaxation and to help me get over my leftover fear from my daughter's birth
No alcohol at all, except for the last week when I assumed I was not pg and drank a bottle of wine...

It's nice to see you back MTW. I am never going to leave this thread either. All those "Due in November" women will be friends already and I don't want to be the new girl again.

JB you are the best cycle buddy ever!

Thanks for the dance GG (I hope your trainee hasd recovered) and I am wishing for December babies for you all.

Bucky good news about Buckybloke's appointment.

Hatty I wouild have the trout. In fact, can I come too?

Have a lovely day MOB

And sorry for the mammoth post! Lots and lots of luck to you all!

pmsl! Maybe the reason I'm not pregnant is because my first thought is what I'm going to eat on our night away rather than what colour undies I'm going to be flaunting later!