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4DPO yet again, are you with me?

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bunnynbear · 02/06/2023 14:14

Today's 4DPO. This is second TWW after a miscarriage and that was the first time I was pregnant :(

First TWW after the miscarriage was very hard and very emotional for me, i was symptom spotting every little thing. This time around I feel calmer but its still 4DPO and my brain knows its too early for HcG to be there but not sure how I will be from 10DPO onwards.

Who else here is going through the TWW and how are you coping?

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TT82 · 04/07/2023 09:52

Also had a dr appointment today re genetic testing abd ivf planning. She agreed that after last cp quality is an issue, so she supports back-to-back collection till at least 4 embryos and then while we wait for the results (6-8 weeks! 😱) she suggests we continue another cycle of eggs collection.. but all will be tailored personally depending how I react. My hormones are very good she said (AMH 17 - ?? 🤷🏻‍♀️) so it is a waiting game to get a good one. She was very positive but said 1-2 good FET is a good outcome
Looks like I had ovulation this night...so maybe I will have my surprise this cycle 🤞🏻

TT82 · 04/07/2023 07:35

Yay finally my bbt is up this morning! After so much cramps and pain yesterday. So looks like ovulation was this night or yesterday evening 🤞🏻

Giles1008 · 03/07/2023 21:01

@Laylattc I really feel your frustration the TTC journey can be so cruel and complicated. Hopefully you ovulated first time and that was just a blip 🤞🏻. Are your cycles usually long?

I usually cave around 8DPO but I’m feeling quite nervous about a BFN this time as it’ll be our last month trying for a while. So I’m going to wait until Thursday or Friday. I have some FRER that I ordered last cycle that I didn’t need.

I have had a few niggles today like period pain but it’s a week until AF is due. I know it’s all in my head, I may not have even implanted yet if I could be pregnant so just need to stay positive 🤞🏻. Last month about 4 days before AF I started to get period pain and the sensitivity in my boobs had disappeared, so whilst that is still there I know progesterone must still be high and I have a chance!

Laylattc · 03/07/2023 16:15

@Giles1008 it’s strange, no this is the first time I’ve carried on testing normally just keep going for the 2 days after to confirm it’s back low but decide to keep going out of curiosity and now I’m either mad at myself for confusing myself or glad I checked so I haven’t missed it! I’m either 7dpo today so same as you or haven’t ovulated yet! Still going to start testing tomorrow do you usually wait till 10dpo?

@bunnynbear yes that’s what I’ve heard about the body trying again if it didn’t ovulate first time, but I only did the test as an after thought on the 29th as was curious (it’s cd20 but showing the date of the 29th so not too late to ovulate I guess?) but I did the test really late and that’s when it was the strongest so thinking if I had tested earlier in the day it may have been a peak?The 30th was in the morning so didn’t have chance to test inbetween but not sure why it then tried to go up again for the third time yesterday

I’ve only had my usually obvious cm one cycle since my miscarriage and seem to get what I would have thought were ovulation pains quite a bit so can’t all be ov related I think I just cramp a lot or I’m looking for it.
I just don’t know my body’s signs any more i too think I’m all over the place since the miscarriage. The second surge was 10 days before I’m due af so not sure if it would be af related and too early to be pregnancy related?

i thought maybe I hadn’t ovulated the first time but then never caught a peak in the surges after it just seems to be fluctuating so much I have no idea what’s going on. Could my body have tried and failed three times to ovulate or is there a chance I did ovulate the first time round and this is normal?!

so disappointed as we really “went for it” this month, SMEP, ovulation testing (lol), pre-seed and used the ferti lily for the first time. And it’s the month that would have been my baby’s due date and I really really thought I would be pregnant again by now so it’s so cruel if I haven’t even ovulated

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bunnynbear · 03/07/2023 15:15

@Laylattc from what I've read usually when there's a second surge, it's the second time that's ovulation but in your case the second one is less than 1.0. Did you test throughout the day between cd29-30? Do you think it could've gotten higher than 1.0 between those days?

I had a few highs (around 0.6-0.9) but then I got an extremely dark line at cd20 (2.1). I had other signs such as CM and smell (according to DH) that make it more apparent my ovulation was CD20. So did you have other signs around those surges? But I also agree with @Giles1008 that closer to af you may also get a mini surge of LH as the hormones are similar.

@Giles1008 tomorrow I am 1dpo! So I am right behind you ...by a week 😜

@TT82 I feel like my miscarriage has messed my cycles up too. Last cycle af was late and this cycle I ovulated super late and looks like it'll be a 35 day cycle.

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Giles1008 · 03/07/2023 15:02

Anyone in the TWW? 7DPO today still got tender boobs which usually disappear by 9DPO if AF is on its way.

Hoping to test on Thursday 🤞🏻

Giles1008 · 03/07/2023 14:59

That’s so interesting @Laylattc no advice sorry, do you usually keep testing after peak to see if it stays down?

I have heard you can get a rise in LH if pregnant and also just before AF. I’ve never carried on testing.

Laylattc · 03/07/2023 13:50

Glad you had your peak @bunnynbear

i don’t know what’s happening with my O this month.

I had what I thought was a peak at cd16 and supposed to be 7dpo but lh has started rising twice again since then and now I don’t even know if I’ve ovulated at all. App has registered both the mini surges afterwards as “high” but didn’t reach the previous peak unless I’ve missed it. Lines look super dark on actual tests.

can anyone make sense of this please? Xx

4DPO yet again, are you with me?
TT82 · 03/07/2023 07:35

Last 2 years my cycle got shorter 26-28 days and O by 12th.... So this late like 14-15 is now unusual. But last was cp so probably all messed up

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bunnynbear · 03/07/2023 07:32

@TT82 thats great! does yours usually come late or is this unusual for you? DH is convinced that this is THE month but I'm trying not to get my hopes up.

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TT82 · 03/07/2023 07:23

@bunnynbear same here! Late and dragging 🙈 looks like today or at night O should come, so I will keep you a company to worry during tww ☺️

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bunnynbear · 03/07/2023 06:48

@DmcinT twins, I wish! Its never happened like this before, its never been this late or so high, I usually get the peak at CD15/16. I'm hoping the later ovulation doesn't work against me but tomorrow is 1DPO!

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DmcinT · 02/07/2023 16:46

@bunnynbear that’s mad, has that happened u before? U also could have ovulated multiple times (twins 😅)

symptoms have deff ramped up the last 2 days, feeling kinda nauseous just all the time now, food helps for a small bit but not as much anymore

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bunnynbear · 02/07/2023 16:20

@TT82 That's great! 🤞🏼for you. Hopefully you'll have time before the family come or they don't interfere with your window!

@DmcinT you won't believe it but this morning it started to go down (was 0.8) and then a few hours later I tested and it went up to 2.1! So ovulation is tomorrow (cd20 which is late for me). How are you doing? How are the symptoms?

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TT82 · 02/07/2023 11:02

@bunnynbear yay ignore my previous message! Found one more test (was removing my pregnancy tests etc from bathroom so family doesn't see tgen once they are here) - and got a smiley 😅 Good my husband said lack of smiley on my test doesn't mean we need to change our pattern 😆

TT82 · 02/07/2023 10:53

@bunnynbear no not yet.. only today cm at least is promising, so maybe just late O this cycle.. I run out of tests! 😅 was so trying to get it

DmcinT · 02/07/2023 09:40

@bunnynbear ah great news 🎉 delighted u caught it in the end, it’s reassuring to see it ☺️ So O is today then 💃🏼💃🏼

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bunnynbear · 02/07/2023 09:38

@TT82 thanks! How's the bbt? Have you got your smiley yet?

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TT82 · 02/07/2023 09:29

@bunnynbear 🎉 good news!!! Now wishing patience over next week ❤️

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bunnynbear · 02/07/2023 06:38

@DmcinT I think I ended up having a lh surge! It started to increase again yesterday afternoon which I manage to catch. By the time I went to sleep it was 1.16, it must've peaked when I was asleep! So I've ovulated much later than I usually do. Managed to dtd yesterday and will try today too! The weather has cooled down so made that easier 😊

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DmcinT · 01/07/2023 10:43

@bunnynbear yeah MC deff changes things slightly so u could have had a quick surge this month for sure. If u caught it around 12/1 it could very likely have been over 1. So yeah O is most likely today so ur 1 dpo tomorr. And so the TWW starts… 🙃

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bunnynbear · 01/07/2023 09:46

@TT82 @DmcinT thank you both that's reassuring. Usually mine shoots up about 1.6-1.8 and it happens over the course of a day so this is the first time it was so quick and short and I didn't have the usually CM. The line usually gets super strong but I agree it does look high and not low as per the app. I guess I'll be 1dpo tomorrow then?

@TT82 I've tried the bbt but because my waking pattern is all over the place I struggled with it. I also found that my miscarriage messed me up, even this cycle (third cycle since) i had the lh surge later than expected. 🤞🏼you get it this afternoon or before the family comes!

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DmcinT · 01/07/2023 09:20

@bunnynbear I’d imagine u did but just missed it in those few hrs? My darkest when I conceived this time was in the 0.7’s but I must have missed the peak a hr or 2 later so I deff wouldn’t worry. DTD and ur into the TWW 💃🏼🎉 fingers crossed 🤞🏽

TT82 · 01/07/2023 08:11

@bunnynbear i have never used this app, but 2 tests on cd17 looks very high to me! Lines are clear dark, not sure why it says low! Fingers crossed that was the ovulation
I have sometimes very short rapid increase and down, so if I didn't test like that window wouldn't notice (bbt chart though would show very nice increase and after ovulation pattern). So don't get upset!! ❤️

I am still with low temperature, cb test shows just circle no smily.. so yeah, might be after cp my ovaries decided to rest. Just upset as it is last before ivf)

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bunnynbear · 01/07/2023 08:05

Sorry this is the one including this morning testing

4DPO yet again, are you with me?
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