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40+ TTC this year

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unicornglitter123 · 08/05/2023 01:13

👋
I'm just trying to get an idea and a bit of hope in TTC over 40, and for me...mid 40's!
I'm 44 and will soon be 45 🙃
TTC number 2.
Have been trying for over a year.
IVF not an option.
Delayed our TTC number 2 because of Covid.
Anyone in the same boat?

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Rosyposy26 · 03/04/2024 18:04

Tillyminny · 03/04/2024 18:01

@Rosyposy26 are you supposed to have 3 each day?

Yes that’s what it says recommended dose.

Tillyminny · 03/04/2024 18:01

@Rosyposy26 are you supposed to have 3 each day?

Rosyposy26 · 03/04/2024 17:12

Tillyminny · 03/04/2024 17:07

@Rosyposy26 i will!! I’ve just looked and I might bulk buy to get free postage 😃

I got one pack only 15 in a pack so would only last 5 days so just ordered 3 packs.

Tillyminny · 03/04/2024 17:07

@Rosyposy26 i will!! I’ve just looked and I might bulk buy to get free postage 😃

Rosyposy26 · 03/04/2024 17:04

Tillyminny · 03/04/2024 16:59

@Rosyposy26 thanks. I’ll give this a go x

I’m willing to try anything. let me know what you think. Actually not to bad to drink I have 1 in the morning 1 in the afternoon and 1 in the evening only been taking it since yesterday.

Tillyminny · 03/04/2024 16:59

@Rosyposy26 thanks. I’ll give this a go x

KoraliaValentine · 03/04/2024 14:51

All 9 of my embryos are still going on day 3! Two have only 6 cells, so may not make it, but all the rest are 7-9 cells. I know it's normal for the majority to make it to day 3, and that the real test is still to come, so I'm trying not to get ahead of myself, but I'm feeling more positive. This may prove a mistake, but things are moving in the right direction!

Tillyminny · 03/04/2024 12:04

@Rosyposy26 what is fertility tea?! I’m interested in trying it!!!

summerbreeze2000 · 03/04/2024 03:27

Just seeing how everyone is going?
I think I'm out again this month!
I didn't use any OPKs this month only Flo app...plus we only DTD on day 10 and 12.
So I'm not holding out.

Anyone have any good news?
X

Rosyposy26 · 02/04/2024 21:16

I’m willing to try anything. I’ve just bought some fertility tea. I need to have a period again so I know body and reset and it’s worrying not had one was regular as clockwork before MC. Feel first month after coming of the pill. I knew it was to good to be true though.

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 20:37

@KoraliaValentine I’ll be googling them tonight…that’s for sure 😆

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 20:36

@KoraliaValentine ah your message has just given me hope. I read recently that a woman who had tried to get pregnant for years and failed actually got pregnant at 51! They think that’s because she was taking a higher dose of HRT.

I agree with you about lifestyle factors. There are so many things that weren’t around all those years ago…wifi, mobile phones, microwaves etc. probably so much in the water we drink too. It’s quite scary and I’m sure in years to come it will be unveiled.

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 19:57

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 19:55

@KoraliaValentine are these all only available on prescription?

No, none of them are on prescription, but I'm not in the UK so I don't know how easily available they are there. I'd imagine you could get them online though?

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 19:55

@KoraliaValentine are these all only available on prescription?

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 19:34

mt9m · 02/04/2024 18:58

3 embryos is due to success rates. If I put one in and it doesn't work, I'll lose valuable months till I could try IVF again and it could be too late. Embryo banking seems quite common in older women, especially if you want more than 1 child. By banking embryos first it gives you a chance, given most don't stick first time and only 20% are normal after 40 (way less for me).

Unfortunately my clinic only do ICSI for PGT, but I've heard standard IVF can be more gentle for mature and poorer quality eggs. Has anyone done both and seen a different in results?

I was told my husband's sperm was microinjected. Is that the same as ICSI? I feel so ignorant. Other women seem to really have a handle on all their treatment, but I just go along and do what I'm told. Maybe I'm being too passive. I assumed it would be standard fertilisation, as my husband has no problem with his sperm, so I was quite surprised when I was told that, but I was so focused on the numbers that I didn't ask why. Maybe I'll ask when they call me tomorrow.

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 19:27

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 19:08

@KoraliaValentine i know but I suppose I just like to have that <1% chance of hope that maybe something might happen naturally. You do hear of people having babies naturally and I guess that’s my only hope. I’ve heard of people having them generations ago before IVF. But I know that today there are a lot of people using donor eggs, frozen eggs etc and so I don’t get too excited when I hear things in the media of people my age getting pregnant….because those opinions are out for me. But I definitely obsess about previous generations. My Nan was 43 when she had her youngest. She didn’t have a particularly healthy lifestyle - did little exercise and smoked. I suppose that’s why I thought it would happen for me….I do a lot of exercise and I don’t smoke. But I guess it wasn’t meant to be

Lots of women in my family tree had children in their 40s. My grandmother was born when her mother was 44, and my great grandmother had 3 in her 40s, two of which were late 40s (she had 13 in total!) I do wonder if environmental and lifestyle factors made it easier then, though. I really think that modern lifestyles are playing havoc with our fertility, but that we haven't noticed yet because social and economic factors have obscured it. When I say this people think I'm some kind of tin foil hat nutter, but we know sperm counts have drastically reduced, so why would it be different for women? Our great grandmother's had unhealthy lifestyles in some respects but they didn't have endocrine disrupters in all their food and water!

Anyway, up to the menopause it's always possible!

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 19:18

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 18:57

@KoraliaValentine what supplements were recommended to you by the clinic? I’m taking all sorts and I’ll try anything if it will give me hope😆

For a while I was taking one called Sinopol, alongside a pregnancy vitamin called Seidibion Prime, but I think the Sinopol was causing me to have an upset stomach, so my doctor recommended that I change to one called Seidivid Ferty4, and just take that alongside extra folic acid and ubiquinol.

I've had a terrible time with my stomach as I'm prediabetic but none of the fertility doctors at my local hospital explained that it could affect my fertility, only that it could cause problems in pregnancy, but that they would be treatable. They told me that my AMH, FSH and estradiol were all great for my age, so all was fine. They knew my AFC was very low, but didn't think to mention it. It was only when I went to the private fertility clinic that I found out that it was impacting my chances. They prescribed metformin and after a few months my AFC had trebled. I now know my insulin levels would have been affecting my egg quality too. I can't believe that the doctors at the hospital didn't know this. My GP asked why I was taking metformin and said she was surprised high blood sugar could affect fertility and she hadn't known that. I can't believe how much ignorance there is about fertility, even among the medical professionals.

Anyway, the metformin caused severe stomach troubles for months, though it was worth it in the end. I think the Sinopol made things worse, but it was difficult to tell in the circumstances. But the Sinopol was for women with PCOS I think. The problem is no one can tell if I have it or not. But as time goes on it seems less likely. The Seidivid Ferty4 is just for general egg quality. My husband has also been taking the male version.

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 19:08

@KoraliaValentine i know but I suppose I just like to have that <1% chance of hope that maybe something might happen naturally. You do hear of people having babies naturally and I guess that’s my only hope. I’ve heard of people having them generations ago before IVF. But I know that today there are a lot of people using donor eggs, frozen eggs etc and so I don’t get too excited when I hear things in the media of people my age getting pregnant….because those opinions are out for me. But I definitely obsess about previous generations. My Nan was 43 when she had her youngest. She didn’t have a particularly healthy lifestyle - did little exercise and smoked. I suppose that’s why I thought it would happen for me….I do a lot of exercise and I don’t smoke. But I guess it wasn’t meant to be

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 18:59

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 18:39

I didn't know about waiting for 3 embryos. I just assumed I would be transferring any that I got. I wonder if it's because I'm in a different country, or because I'm older, or because I said from the outset that I'd only do one round with my own eggs.

I've never heard of NAC or inositol. Off to Google! I've been doing everything in It Start With the Egg, plus some extra supplements recommended by my clinic. Filtered all my water, cooking in stainless steel pans only, only glass food packaging and storage containers, generally trying not to use plastics, changed all my cleaning and beauty products, plus diet and exercise and all the supplements. I guess I'll know in a few weeks whether it all made any difference!

I've just seen that NAC and inositol are discussed in It Starts With the Egg, but somehow I missed them!

mt9m · 02/04/2024 18:58

3 embryos is due to success rates. If I put one in and it doesn't work, I'll lose valuable months till I could try IVF again and it could be too late. Embryo banking seems quite common in older women, especially if you want more than 1 child. By banking embryos first it gives you a chance, given most don't stick first time and only 20% are normal after 40 (way less for me).

Unfortunately my clinic only do ICSI for PGT, but I've heard standard IVF can be more gentle for mature and poorer quality eggs. Has anyone done both and seen a different in results?

Tillyminny · 02/04/2024 18:57

@KoraliaValentine what supplements were recommended to you by the clinic? I’m taking all sorts and I’ll try anything if it will give me hope😆

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 18:39

mt9m · 02/04/2024 18:27

From 22 fertilised eggs only 1 came back as chromosomally normal good grade on day 5. My clinic recommended 3 embryos per child before transferring, and given my issues getting pregnant even back in my 20s that seems sensible so as to not lose time and miss my chance. I'm looking into anything more I can do for egg and embryo quality, as I can just about squeeze one more round of IVF at 38. Although I'm not quite 40, my egg quality is much lower than typical for my age. This is self funded through an NHS clinic, it's a bit cheaper than private but no extras and longer waiting times.

Things I haven't tried is NAC and inositol, I'm worried about making anything worse by messing with things, but desperate to get more euploid embryos.

I didn't know about waiting for 3 embryos. I just assumed I would be transferring any that I got. I wonder if it's because I'm in a different country, or because I'm older, or because I said from the outset that I'd only do one round with my own eggs.

I've never heard of NAC or inositol. Off to Google! I've been doing everything in It Start With the Egg, plus some extra supplements recommended by my clinic. Filtered all my water, cooking in stainless steel pans only, only glass food packaging and storage containers, generally trying not to use plastics, changed all my cleaning and beauty products, plus diet and exercise and all the supplements. I guess I'll know in a few weeks whether it all made any difference!

mt9m · 02/04/2024 18:27

From 22 fertilised eggs only 1 came back as chromosomally normal good grade on day 5. My clinic recommended 3 embryos per child before transferring, and given my issues getting pregnant even back in my 20s that seems sensible so as to not lose time and miss my chance. I'm looking into anything more I can do for egg and embryo quality, as I can just about squeeze one more round of IVF at 38. Although I'm not quite 40, my egg quality is much lower than typical for my age. This is self funded through an NHS clinic, it's a bit cheaper than private but no extras and longer waiting times.

Things I haven't tried is NAC and inositol, I'm worried about making anything worse by messing with things, but desperate to get more euploid embryos.

KoraliaValentine · 02/04/2024 18:16

mt9m · 02/04/2024 17:53

My eggs seem to think they're about 42, even though I'm not, as only 6% of my embryos were chromosomally normal. I'd done supplements and fertility reflexology for over a year before IVF so it was devastating to lose 20 embryos. My eggs are just poor quality.

I went with IVF and PGT-A due to risk of aneuploidy, but have found it very physically and emotionally difficult. Made the decision to TTC in 2019 so I'm tired now. I got a good healthy embryo on Day 5 though so it's logical to keep trying. I'm still struggling with exhaustion and hot flushes and waiting for my period to return.

I have an appointment coming up to discuss another IVF here as it'd be much more practical, but I would l prefer to use an open ID egg donor if it were affordable.

Sorry, I looked for previous posts from you on this thread, but couldn't see them. Do you mind me asking how old you are and how many rounds you've done.

You got a day 5 blastocyst but it PGT-A testing ruled it out?

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