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Trying to conceive over 40 part 4

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October1979 · 25/04/2023 11:54

Hi girls here is a new thread as we have nearly reached the 1000 limit x

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Marvellouslymadmum · 05/08/2023 09:07

Hi all 👋🏻 hope everyone is doing well? I haven't had a chance to read back as it's been a while but if I didn't say it already congratulations @Kelb79 hope your scan goes well Monday!!
I've been absent as I think I'm on perimenopause, may not be it could just be where I've been slacking on the vitamins and stressed with out housing situation etc. but I'm back onto the vits today I've got
Pregnacare
Folic acid
Vit e
Vit d
Vit c
Magnesium
Need to get a good ubiquinol if anyone has any recommendations as I'm out of that.
Am I missing anything? It's been a while 🤦🏼‍♀️
Also does anyone have any better alternatives to pregnacare? Not sure if it's the best? Ive been seeing good things about ovavite - anyone know anything about that one?

Anyway hope you're all well and I shall be back now, I've pulled my big girl pants on and stepping back into the serious ttc game xx

October1979 · 03/08/2023 22:03

@Kelb79 good luck for Monday. I was feeling sick and eat ginger sweets from Holland and Barrett. They worked. The good news is my sickness went away after 12 weeks. Fingers crossed you'll be the same. It's going so fast! I'm so excited for you xxx

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TT82 · 03/08/2023 14:21

@Kelb79 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 hope for good news on Monday scan!! ❤️
Sooo sorry you are feeling sick, that's probably not fun at all.. I haven't been sick with my pregnancies, the opposite actually- was constantly hungry!! 😬

I am much better now, stopped the pills on Monday and starting injections tomorrow. Yeah now I know how I will feel once menopause is here 😳 I almost divorced my husband 😱...he has to deal with lots of this currently. But now getting better and like cannot wait to have the hormones back.

Oh I took for granted my pregnancies..now I know how much pain physical and mental women have to go through 🥺

Xx

Kelb79 · 03/08/2023 11:30

@TT82 i absolutely understand that feeling!! I’ve been there so often along this journey ❤️❤️❤️
how are you feeling now? Hopefully a bit better 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 big love xxx

how’s everyone doing?

i can’t believe I’m saying it but I’m 11 weeks today!
still soooo sick!! All of the time!! And sooo anxious, my dating scan is on Monday and I’m terrified!! 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

TT82 · 28/07/2023 21:16

@Kelb79 sorr autocorrect: "for those not ready at all"

TT82 · 28/07/2023 21:07

@Kelb79 thank you so much for your support!! ❤️
My brain understands (I mean as much it can in the current stage), that PGT-A testing is the real reason I am doing ivf (even with all potential minuses etc) as I am falling pregnant, just not staying. Otherwise I can continue naturally searching for that one egg.. Just cannot deal with chemicals anymore..these are heartbreaking, so what if, like you mentioned, later stage mc! 😔 for those not reason at all

They told me we can decide later depending on the situation etc. Just hope by then I will be back myself, as currently I just want to divorce my husband and just stop all of this 😖 those pills are a killer

Noodles4Me · 28/07/2023 10:24

Thanks @TT82 and @Kelb79 It all just gets so confusing. I had an ovarian scan which shows I’m in decline but also shows I don’t ovulate when I think I do 🤦🏼‍♀️ Ffs. However they said my uterus was “lovely” haha.

Hope all good with everyone. Positive vibes all x

Kelb79 · 28/07/2023 09:31

@Noodles4Me i had around 7 follicles at base scans and usually collected 5 eggs from that. AMH at the point of IVF was 0.5 so pretty low.

@TT82 i suffered massively with the Downregging too - not nice at all!! It definitely gets better once you start stimming 🙏🏼 so it’s a tricky debate whether to test all or risk a fresh transfer…. I got 3 embryos over 2 ECs and tested all, they all came back aneuploid. I was devastated and it just felt so wrong that I hadn’t even made it to transfer. I questioned the PGT-A testing and got quite fixated on maybe having made the wrong choice. That they might possibly have made it if I’d just transferred. But…. On the flip side…. Failed transfers hurt, you connect immediately to those little embryos, and even more so if they implant and grow for a while before an eventual MC. I fell apart completely after my MC so in hindsight I’m glad I didn’t put myself through what would likely end up as another MC. But there are some questions around the testing and some evidence to say that embryos might self correct in the womb. I would say you just need to be completely honest with yourself about how well you would deal with the possible outcomes. Not an easy decision at all. Good luck ❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼

TT82 · 28/07/2023 09:19

@Noodles4Me hi, just had my first ivf scan (pre simulation), they counted 11 on each side, told me good number to start with 🤷🏻‍♀️ But my case is quality unfortunately. I will be on menopour from 4th August.
Wanted to ask all experienced ladies- if I am extremely lucky and have 4 embryos gor PGTA testing...and 1 more, should I try fresh transfer.. in case all abnormal, and with flaws in testing..not to miss if it is a good one but just mosaic?

My hospital said for genetic tests results- minimum 4 weeks!

I know it is all very low probabilities..but dr said we will see how I react and how many we will get

Also these pills I am on pre-stimulation...I am really suffering, cannot sleep, hot flashes, like menopause symptoms 🥺 Was told it is not usual but some women react to the hormones blocking

Noodles4Me · 26/07/2023 19:10

I know it’s not very active on here, but just wanted to ask - those who did IVF over 40 - how many follicles did you have?

TT82 · 24/07/2023 12:41

I am currently on Primolut pills and starting injections on the 3d of August. Don't know details as on holiday and they moved all week earlier, so first appointment on Friday only.

Was really scared of these pills before injections but actually not bad, no worries or any sort of mood, like "I don't care" stage 🙈
Do you think it is normal or worries and pain will kick in later?

Injections - I should be ok, as already dud half IUI cycle injections (it was cancelled as risk of multiples and my kids were premature so cannot carry more than 1).

TT82 · 24/07/2023 12:40

@ladybranstonpickle just wanted to send my support and hugs ❤️
And to repeat that none of your actions caused it, nature decides and nothing you can do. I had similar feelings after my first few cp, but then dr explained very clearly- if eggs quality is not good, it will happen regardless what I eat or do..
take care of yourself xx

ladybranstonpickle · 24/07/2023 12:38

Thank you so much all of you for your kind words. Attended the scan this morning and have decided to start the medical management. The bleeding was very heavy yesterday and the day before but has almost stopped today. The scan still showed pregnancy tissue so I wanted to help it along with the medication, rather than waiting for the bleeding to restart.

I actually feel a lot better now it is underway. Hoping it's not too painful - I am working this afternoon to take my mind off things, but if I need I will log off and take a medical leave afternoon/day tomorrow.

Onwards! My heart goes out to all of you who have experienced this, and hopefully we will all have positive news to share in the next couple of months.

Kelb79 · 22/07/2023 12:15

@ladybranstonpickle i am so so sorry ❤️❤️ it truly is the worst feeling in the world ever. Be kind to yourself and give yourself all the time and space you need.
this happened to me aswell, a week after actually seeing a heartbeat. It’s horrific. I blamed myself for it too. I KNOW that it wasn’t down to anything I did wrong but it still creeps into my head at times.
Nothing that you did caused this 🙏🏼❤️
It’s so bad that the hospital just leave you in this hell for so long. I was a week before I could get a D&C aswell. It’s so cruel. I really hope they can get something sorted for you very soon - limbo is a horrible place to be in. Don’t rush to the next decisions, you’ve got time and you definitely need to use it to make sure you’re ok.
sending you so much love xxxx

October1979 · 22/07/2023 10:09

@ladybranstonpickle I'm so sorry t read your news. It's heartbreaking that's exactly what happened to me too. I had 2 missed miscarriages one year apart. It is such a hard thing to go through. Be kind to yourself and take your time healing and processing. It's really difficult. Sending love xx

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Catconfusion · 22/07/2023 06:35

@October1979 your babies are stunning! Thank you for posting a picture. I’m so happy for you 😊.

@ladybranstonpickle I couldn’t read this and run. I’m so sorry to hear this is happening to you. I had very similar with my first pregnancy. I too analysed everything I did during early pregnancy. When I discussed it with a doctor he reassured me it’s very difficult to do anything that will jeopardise a healthy pregnancy. In most cases it’s chromosomal abnormalities and there’s nothing that could have been done differently. Please look after yourself. It’s such a traumatic thing to go through. My two babies are here now. I just check in on this thread to see how everyone is. What I will say is I’m still dealing with the fallout from the 5 losses I had on the road to completing my family. Don’t underestimate the impact. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope you have some good news soon! x

ladybranstonpickle · 17/07/2023 11:30

hi ladies, sorry for being MIA. I have been reading the thread just not felt I had the heart to join in, so sorry about that.

I don't have good news - went for a early scan and NIPT test on Saturday (scan was just a bonus, actually cared more about the test!) - no heartbeat and embryo measuring at about 6 weeks gestation despite my dates putting me at 10 weeks. Essentially, it's a missed miscarriage. I still don't have any bleeding or cramps, so just taking each day at a time, but finding it very hard. Keep bursting into tears at random moments and can't even talk about it without crying.

EPU midwife says I need to wait for a second confirmatory scan on Monday 24th, and then if the miscarriage hasn't started by then medical management is the next step. Surgical management unlikely to be available due to the doctors' strike.

I'm feeling really very low. I have this sense of doom that I am literally running out of time - I turn 43 in November. My husband also doesn't want to risk having a June/July/August baby, so if we don't conceive in the next month or two we'll have to pause until December at the earliest. Plus there is the pressure that we'll have 4+ year gap between my eldest and a second baby.

I had absolutely no idea that the embryo had stopped growing. Feel terrible I had already bought a maternity evening gown for a wedding in September, and also had started thinking about when to tell my work and friends. Also in this thinking loop that it's because I accidentally ate a bit of blue cheese at 6 weeks, had too much caffeine on holiday, or it was the half-glass of champagne I had at 7 weeks.

YellowLoafers · 17/07/2023 09:40

@Serendipity2023 I’m so sorry, completely devastating. Sending lots of love to you ❤️

Welcome to all the newbies, this is a great group and hope it helps you as much as it has me x

Serendipity2023 · 16/07/2023 21:51

@Kelb79, @TT82 & @Iusedtobedontcall thank you all for the warm welcomes 🥰

@Kelb79 - huge congratulations on your wonderful news (I read back through the group a little), I'm thrilled for you and it gives me such hope x

Iusedtobedontcall · 16/07/2023 21:22

@Serendipity2023 sending hugs. I lost my baby girl in February as she had Trisomy 21. Been TTC since but nothing yet.

TT82 · 16/07/2023 12:51

@Serendipity2023 you went through a lot! Lots of hugs ❤️

Kelb79 · 16/07/2023 11:33

@Serendipity2023 i am so so sorry to hear your story, that’s utterly heartbreaking 💔 sending you so much love ❤️❤️❤️
Welcome to the best group that nobody wants to be in 🙏🏼💕
xxxxx

Serendipity2023 · 15/07/2023 21:51

Hi ladies, hope it's okay if I join you all in this rollercoaster TTC journey?

I'm 40, TTC (again).
No living children but a baby girl who sadly got her wings in January. We had a termination at 23-weeks after learning that she had severe heart abnormalities.

Reading through some of your posts gives me renewed hope, thank you for creating such a tight-knit and empathetic group.

Isitthathardtobekind · 14/07/2023 20:33

@Onelasttry79 I’ve still got flashing smileys. 13 days now so not going to work for me. I put them in Premom app - Started to rise day 14 but only to 55 which is still low (think I’ve seen pics on here and it counts 70 ish as high?🤷🏻‍♀️). By the next day it dropped to 32 so assume it just didn’t go high enough unless I missed the peak, but I thought the tests would still read this and turn static? Not sure if it’s possible to miss it on them and so it never turns static because of that.

TT82 · 14/07/2023 11:04

Hi, tested today 11dpo, BFN as expected. I have strong PMS symptoms this cycle. I never was positive after cp before, so was low chance anyway.
My hormones are dropping now before AF, so I am sad but also like exhausted, it is what it is
I will start taking pills for ivf preparation as soon as AF arrives and then in august will have a real test how good those eggs are 😱 Genetic testing etc will take very long but also I need to get something to test which is not given....so might be another cycle straight away..

Baby dust to everyone ❤️

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