Trying to conceive over 40 part 4

@Supertrooper101 are you in the UK? in the UK healthcare doesn’t generally cover DE IVF. NHS covers IVF with certain area specific guidelines (postcode lottery 😐). Some companies private healthcare plans do cover both IVF and DE though 👍🏼
cost wise…. DE IVF in Spain is usually around €8-10,000 and is usually offered as a sort of guarantee package. I don’t know specific prices for other countries but Greece/Cyprus/Czech repub are all definitely cheaper and UK is more expensive.
something you really need to consider when you’re making your decision is the anonymity laws in each country.
For example, in the UK there is full transparency, you will choose your donor from photos and biogs and your child will be able to contact them aged 18. Anonymous donor is illegal. In Spain only anonymous donation is allowed so the clinic will choose your donor based on phenotype matching (how you look). You won’t have any details other than age and bloody type and your child won’t be able to contact them

@Supertrooper101 Whether the NHS covers it, and how many rounds they cover, depends on where you are. This is our first round (our IVF round with my eggs was cancelled and so didn't count) and it's on the NHS as we are covered up to age 42. We only get one round covered, but the age limit is older than quite a few areas, luckily for us. Also, I don't think you can get it on the NHS if you have had any children, but I'm not sure about that. Not sure about Spain, I'm afraid!

So, AF has appeared this morning (albeit very minimally so far and no other symptoms) and so I guess I am now praying that our eggs arrive with the clinic before my day 21. Working on Friday being my proper day 1, that will mean they'll have to arrive within 4 weeks from when we chose them, and they say it takes 2-6 weeks, so keeping everything crossed! I'm not sure yet, but I'm worried that, if they don't, we'll be waiting another month... but I may be wrong, hoping to find out from the clinic today.

@Amberellaella my hormones were also very good for my age, dr were relaxed, actually I was too! So we tried IUI (just to try something easier), but I cannot have multiples (kids premature both), so of course I got 2 eggs matured and they cancelled it. Then we decided only ivf. I didn't even know about PGTA! I read on this forum a lot and then said I only will continue if we do it. Then the clinic moved me to August where there was a space for PGTA.. So I actually wasted 6m almost 🤦🏻‍♀️ I got 8 eggs, all fertilised naturally and 4 got to 5d blastocysts. None of the 4 were good. It takes 4-6w for my hospital to test them too! So we sent a package anyway. This time they will increase the dose as said they expected more and also even dr was surprised none were good. And I am on tons of all these supplements from that famous book too 😳
But thes say each cycle is different, every woman with same hormones different etc. But after 2nd EC not sure I can do 3d.... So we will be discussing with my husband plan B. I am in Switzerland and DE not allowed...so if we decide to go ahead we need to go abroad.
Pill - when they shut down your ovaries...like mini menopause.. Some women ok, minority has very bad reaction- I am the one, almost divorced my husband. They regulate with it the start of ivf.. this time I will be till like 18th of November 😞

Thanks @TT82, and sorry to hear your PGT-A testing didn’t go well. Do you mind me asking how many embryos you had for testing? My AMH and antral follicle count both came back high for my age, so it is probably just a matter of egg quality for me. I’m optimistic that if I get enough embryos then one must surely come back euploid!

Fingers crossed you won’t need to start the downreg next week after all… I am a bit confused by that part as my consultant said one thing and the nurse said another, got a follow up call booked with the clinic (Care Manchester) to try and get a bit of clarity on what my specific protocol will be. It’s a lot isn’t it?

@Amberellaella hi, so sorry to hear you had mmc and potentially starting ivf. I am in a simikar bout, have two older kids, but this time lots of chemicals and also did first round of PGTA testing..no success so far. Process very cruel emotionally:(( Now on the 9dpo of my last cycle before second EC.. no symptoms so far, so looks like I will start this downregg pill next week 😞 (this btw I find the most difficult part of ivf..)
Lets hope by January you will have good news and don't need ivf! 🙏

Can i just ask, all those who are able to do ivf, egg doner, is ot a case of using savings or does your health care cover it? Also, what is a rough idea of doner egg in say spain or somewhere else abroad? Am 41 been trying 7mths now so clearly isnt going to happen 🤷‍♀️

Morning all, mind if I join? I’m 41 and ttc #2. On cycle 3 after an mc (mmc discovered at 9wks, had medical management and then a D&C). It took 8 months to get pregnant last time so going to give it one more cycle after this one and then start IVF with PGT-A in Jan if no luck.

DD is 2.25 and we conceived her first month of trying!!

Ooooooh I’m so excited for you lovelies!! It’s a huge step to go down the DE route but I’ve honestly never looked back once things got going. It’s the most amazing gift that has finally given me hope of a dream I thought I’d have to let go of ❤️❤️❤️
good luck!!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼👍🏼

@TT82 Thank you! I’m hoping it’s not too long now either. I should know my protocol tomorrow and then it’s just a case of waiting for the eggs! Sorry to hear your system is all messed up - but hopefully it’ll be good news!

@GingerFox2021 Exciting!

We had a call with a doctor regarding DE, looks like we are going ahead, omg!

@BertLiv oooooo exciting news!! Hope they will be fast now and no long waiting for you 🥰
I am 7dpo, no bbt dip or spotting 🙄 never get spotting anyway but so want these classic symptoms. I am on progesteron too, which messes all symptoms and my boobs are killing me already

Morning Ladies,
Hope everyone is well (and keeping warm!)?
Well, we chose our eggs on Thurs eve and so now the process has officially started. Now just waiting to hear what the next steps are! Excited and just want it all to happen quickly!

@TT82 and @Marvellouslymadmum Thank you!

@TT82 Fingers crossed you ovulated and this is a lucky month!

@BertLiv ooh that's exciting, hopefully this'll be the one for you!!

@BertLiv great news!!!! Really happy for you! ❤️

I should have ovulated yesterday/today morning, so let's see..my last natural ttc before second EC

Hello Ladies,
How is everyone doing? So, having panicked all Friday and over the weekend, I spoke to someone yesterday who said reiterated that eggs come up the whole time, but disappear very quickly. I kept refreshing the egg bank religiously and amazingly we now have some reserved and are waiting for more information about the donor! Obviously, this donor may not be the lady we choose, but it is hugely comforting that we found someone at all - and she matches pretty much everything we wanted.
Haven't heard back from the doctor about trying with my eggs again, but I suspect that, given my low egg count and age, he will repeat that the chances are very low with my own eggs. But, we were really only considering that route again if the donor eggs were going to take months.
Hopefully we'll like this donor and then the ball will officially be rolling!

@BertLiv ahh I see! Well hopefully they'll get it sorted for you!

Ahhh thank you good tip. Will check it out ❤️

@Cate78xx i came across hertility on another forum...best i have seen so far for the price and you are collecting your blood in a test tube and sending it off just like you would at the drs. Its£150 for around 10 different tests. You fill out the questions and they select the tests for you..orrrrr,you can fudge the answers to get the exact tests you want. Youl see what i mean. I wanted a dhea one so i added the questions like i had high testerone etc.

@praying4babba @Kelb79 @Marvellouslymadmum Thanks for the suggestions, but the issue is that this is our NHS round, so we can’t swap or go elsewhere or we’ll lose it. I’m hoping we can get a realistic wait time for the eggs today and I’ve also asked whether we could try another IVF with my eggs, if it’s really long. If that then failed, we could try another egg bank.

@Autumngirl7 sorry to hear that, do you have a plan going forward?

@BertLiv oh well that's good news at least! I'm good here just thinking about starting to sort out all my supplements and start a new to help everything be where it should be! It will definitely still be your baby!
Which egg bank is it you're using? Could it be worth trying somewhere else? As @Kelb79 says there are lots of clinics abroad, I've narrowed it down to Spain, Greece or Prague the latter probably being the best option for me as I am very fair skinned, golden blonde hair and green eyes and I think they'll more likely have better matches than the other two.

@Kelb79 that's exactly how I feel about it and I haven't even got that far yet! So pleased it's all going well for you

@praying4babba ahh I see! No one's mentioned anything like that for me yet. I have heard about the maca powder, my oh takes maca root supplements as it's good for sperm, I don't but I can't remember why now! 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

@BertLiv have you considered going abroad for DE IVF? There are different anonymity laws so that’s a bit consideration but in many countries there’s no waiting list at all, the treatment is top level and prices are often cheaper but at worst no more expensive (plus you get a little holiday for treatment!)
I had OE and then DE IVF in Spain and it was so much easier and better than I’d ever imagined ❤️

Oh and ladies apparently maca powder so have got that and started with one today and build up to three . Anyone else heard of that ?

Yes unfortunately there are . Thank you . Just not sure if I should take Dhea as apparently your hair falls out or can do and my hair is falling out daily from the ivf meds and everything . Scared I will have nothing left

Yes they gave me Lupron injection and that lasted 3
months . I had to take letrazole every night for three months .
this helped with adeno