Trying to conceive over 40 part 4

@TT82 im so sorry lovely ❤️ there’s nothing worse than getting your hopes up and then being smashed again. I’ve been there so many times 😞 are you still having those embryos tested? I’ve heard of many people still getting successful transfers with those grades and if they pass PGT-A then grades are essentially irrelevant. Don’t give up just yet 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Hi all, not a good update from my side. Finally got a call from my dr regarding the embryos we got this cycle. They are not good quality- BC and CB, dimilar to last time. So even if chromosomal good, lower chance for implantation and growth.. Big drop was before day 3 - 6/10 fertilised stopped growing, then 4 got to day 5, but 2 were not suitable fir biopsy and dropped developing too. So it is purely my bad egg quality regardless tge hormones level😔
I have a call with the clinic in Spain next Thursday (Instituto Bernabeu) but feeling like defeat ..

@BertLiv oooooh exciting news!! Hope no wine for more than a year for you!! 😊🙏

@TT82 So sorry, but as Kelb79 said, you may have your golden egg already! Fingers crossed for you and hopefully making a decision will be easier once you have spoken to the dr and the clinic in Spain.

I had my second scan yesterday and they were pleased with how thick my lining was and so our thaw has been booked in for the 15th. We'll know by that afternoon if any have fertilised and, if they have, then our transfer will be booked in. Hoping and praying that all will go well and I'll be having a dry Christmas! Xx

@Kelb79 thank you for your support!! ❤️
I'd rather have smaller initial numbers, like I had first time. This time was a heartbreak..
Still waiting for a dr to come back on more details like quality, numbers at day 3, when potential 3d EC can be fit in..bad communication and slow here. Also will arrange an appointment with a clinic in Spain for their opinion meanwhile
Hope you are doing well!! Xx

@TT82 im so sorry lovely ❤️❤️❤️ big drop offs are so so hard. I never had big numbers to get my hopes up with and sent 3 embryos for testing, I was so sure one would be good but all aneuploid and it broke me! My Dr at that point said I had a 7% chance of success - I was 43 though so you might have a better chance - you certainly got higher retrieval rates than me (mine were never more than 5, I did 3 rounds of EC). And you might just have your golden egg already!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

There are no guarantees either way - nobody can give you anything more than their opinion. So you need to dig deep and base your decision on your gut instinct (and maybe your bank balance too unfortunately 🫤). Infertility sucks. Sending hugs xxxxx

Morning everyone, finally got email with embryos results:
17 eggs collected, 14 mature, 10 icsi fertilised, but only 2 made it to embryo and were biopsied 😢
I am in shock as last time from 7 fertilised we had 4 embryos..and even then all uneuploid. So what's the chance now. I asked the dr to give more information on grading and how many were at 3 day..to understand where was the biggest drop.
Do you think it is normal this outcome?
They ask if we want zo send testing (you pay as if for 4), or to do another egg collection and hopefully then send 4 or more.. But what is the chance third one will be better? I am turning 42 in April 😞

@rikkyc am nearly 42 too 🤦‍♀️ ttc number 3. This group is more for ivf and doner eggs i think. Am part of another one, a couple of 41s in there if you wanted to join that too x https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conception/4885487-ttc-may-2023-previous-mc-march-2023-thread-2?reply=131109300

@praying4babba I am much better today, thank you! So think all good. Yeah unfortunately lots of them immature but they didn't tell me the numbers. Last time had 8, 7 were mature and fertilised, 4 we tested but none normal.. They matured evenly, this time all over the place 🤦🏻‍♀️
Oh tell me about people's judgement, especially when culturally everyone gets kids by 30.. Our family asks us why we didn't sell some of our kids things, we reply that we keep them for future kids, they think it is a very funny joke 😅

Ladies I so appreciate you and I am sorry I am like a passing through ghost but I am feeling floored. I am 44 and we have been trying to a very long time. My first and only born is 15 and was conceived while I was on the pill 🙄 fertility has a humour . Don’t give up. I am not sure where this will take us and they are the monitor tests as I only have those and having severe cramps tonight and lower back pain so yes . This journey is extremely challenging. @TT82 how are you feeling today ? Your egg count is amazing , we only got 7 and one pg tested normal which didn’t stick. Praying for all of us. X
ps I live in Southern Africa where everyone has their children in the late 20-‘s early 30’s. People look at me when they ask why do you have only one child and I say still trying 😂😂

@praying4babba looks positive to me!! 🙏

Ladies how does this look? I had my IUI last Wednesday.

@rikkyc hi and welcome! I am in a similar situation, same age, ttc number 3, going through second ivf.. Only you know when is the right time.. ❤️
Though because of these reasons, we didn't tell anyone we are trying as they wouldn't understand

I feel so happy to find this group! I'm 41 nearly 42 and TTC #3. I feel so old and out of place in some of the other chats and wondering if I'm doing the right thing trying again at this age? My girls are 8 and 5. People say 'why would you want another one this late'? I hate that. I had my 1st at 33 and actually think it will be fantastic to do it again with more knowledge, more understanding and 2 beautiful older sisters on board. ❤

Sending love to all those other 40+ mums to be x

@praying4babba Glad the 2ww isn't too bad! Hopefully the cramps are a good sign - fingers crossed for you!

@TT82 Sorry you had such an awful time at your EC, but well done on getting 17! Hopefully next week will bring good news!

I had my down reg scan on Tues and they saw a cyst, but weren't worried and were pleased at how thin my endometrial lining was and so I have now started the oestradiol. Next scan is next Wednesday! Keeping everything crossed that things keep going to plan! I mostly haven't been finding the meds too bad, except since starting the oestradiol I've been getting more headaches and feeling pretty wiped out - I also feel like I'm expanding in my injection area, but I could just be eating too much!

Hope everyone else is doing alright! x

@praying4babba cramps are good news!! 🙏 keep us updated! Xx

I had my EC today, they really struggled to find my veins..have bruises everywhere but on 5th attempt the managed, was scared they will cancel it 😮‍💨 Collected 17! But lots immature or over.. They will update me next week only once all done 😒 I think I have mild OHSS as in pain and so weak, last time was better

Hi everyone hope you are all keeping well! We are currently in 2ww after doing a medicated IUI with Menopur and then trigger as I am still currently in menopause. So while we wait for me to come out we thought we would try this . Was pretty easy compared to IVF , the 2ww is a lot more tolerable . I am not going crazy like i was going with IVF 2ww. My husband was even a tad worried about how I would cope. Day 7 piui, lots of cramps , dull back pain and just feeling completely wiped out but then again it is end of a very long year!!
Baby dust to all of you.

No big updates from my side, I am still on downregg pill till Monday. I have developed hives, either too much medicine- vitamin snd this pill, or viral, or stress.. So itchy!!! Cannot sleep! Stopped all the vitamins apart from downregg.. Just hope I won't have reaction on menopour. Last time was ok, just this cycle tjis bad skin reaction to anything. Especially at night 😩

@praying4babba good news!! Hoping the induction will work ❤️

@BertLiv most important they arrived and are there waiting..don't let delay to fog your happiness!
Also you are right re test on x-mas day... 🫣 Last year I did, was hoping I get positive naturally....it wasn't a x-mas present afterall, I was additionally devastated 🤦🏻‍♀️

Hi everyone, so excited to hear the progression here! I have finally had a bleed after being put on the control pill for ten days as I was still showing down regulation from the Lupron , that would be six months from injection. My AMH test which I did two weeks ago is almost double what it was in Feb which blew my mind. They reckon the change in my diet and also CoQ10 600 mg per day . We have decided to try an ovulation induction a few times as I am not sure I can go through IVF again. Emotionally wrecked and still traumatized.

Morning Ladies, how is everyone?
So, our eggs arrived at the clinic yesterday! Exciting but also frustrating as they arrived the day after my day 21 and so now we need to wait until next cycle to start. I was quite gutted/annoyed yesterday that they wouldn’t let me start one day later, but then realised that not taking a test on Christmas Day or Boxing Day might be a good thing! Now just need to wait for af to arrive and then we’ll have a timeline for my protocol.
Hope everyone else is doing alright! Xx

@GingerFox2021 oh that's good news!

@Kelb79 I personally cannot wait to get started! Hopefully we will be moving soon then I'll be on the laparoscopy waiting list soon so we can start straight after that!!

@Amberellaella hi and welcome, sorry to hear if your loss

@Supertrooper101 hi, I believe in the uk you can get de ivf but only in some areas and age restricted, I could be wrong, for us it will be savings and from what I can gather somewhere about the £6000-£7000 a round for de abroad in Prague, Greece etc obviously this varies and also you can get packages that reduce the cost too

@TT82 not in Spain, no. You give photos to the clinic of you at various ages from birth upwards and they match you from their database of potential donors. It’s different there as donors are cycled specifically for you rather than in the UK where a donor will cycle and the eggs will be held in a bank.

@Kelb79 can you see pictures or description of donor- like hobbies, education etc? Even though I am estern eurooean, I look like Spanish ir Greek more 😁, at least when young 🙈