HyCoSy

I'm trying my best to just ignore it as it the first month in a while where there has been hope I really thought there's no hope and just waiting for IVF now so the little bit of hope now is torture

All the best @LizzeyBenett !!!
the wait does feel like forever!
I was told the same month as hycosy the chances were much lower but that it goes up for the 3 months after. My temperatures were also all over the place last month and quite a few days of spotting after the procedure 💭
have you been trying to keep busy to keep your mind off the tww?

Had a Hycosy 2 weeks ago no blockages 6dpo today and I'm convinced every twinge is something ... might lose my mind in this tww. 20 month ttc waiting on IVF fingers are crossed to say the least

How's everyone on here doing? Congrats @Matildahoney !! 💛
8dpo for me the month after hycosy and I don't know when to test. The wait feels like ages but not ready to see another bfn either!

Thankyou everyone!

I felt totally fine after mine @Sierra26 . Sadly no BFP for me yet but it was so reassuring to know everything’s ok in there!

@Sierra26 I took more paracetemol immediately after the procedure and when they kicked in after about 20 mins, the cramps went and I was able to walk home.

However I also ended up staying in bed most of the rest of the day as I was pretty exhausted by it.

Hi, I think I could have pushed through but tbh just felt worn out afterwards so stayed on the sofa for the afternoon

@Sierra26 I had extremely mild cramping for an hour or so then never really noticed it after that. I was fit to go shopping after the procedure. I did have some bleeding that lasted a few hours tho but nothing like a period just light bleeding .

Congrats @Matildahoney on your BFP!

im jumping on this thread to ask- those of you who had cramping after the procedure, how long did it last?

im trying to get one booked and I have ONE potential day next cycle where I could have it done if my period starts when expected. Only thing is it would be the morning of the day we go to meet extended family for a long weekend away. Sitting in the car for a few hours, socialising later etc.

Any advice?! i really don’t want to miss another cycle.

Aaah! Congrats! Wishing you all the luck! xx

@Nolly1994 Hope your HyCoSy went ok too, and was tenaculum-free!

@Matildahoney did you manage to have your HyCoSy yet? Did it go ok?

I decided to go for it in the end, and had one today. I found it quite painful with strong cramping afterwards (but expected this because I've had similar reactions to having IUDs put in before).

Now I'm torn between the consultant saying "don't try to conceive this cycle, we don't know the effect of the dye on a pregnancy" and the document I was given by the clinic which says you can just crack on immediately. Nothing's ever simple 🤔

I'm due to have a HyCoSy and terrified as previously had Hysteroscopy which was the most horrific pain I've ever experienced (I cannot even put it into words... had a panic attack from the pain). My obsession to work out why the f it was so horrific for me but some women are fine made me come to the conclusion its because he used a tenaculum to 'clamp' my cervix. I don't think they do this unless it's needed, but when he said he needed to clamp it still that's when the pain happened. I would just make sure you aren't rushed and they explain FULLY what equipment they may use and specify no barbaric torturous tenaculum good luck and bring someone with you to advocate for you in case you are in pain x

@lollosmash as far as I am aware you have to get the test anyway as part of the work up for ivf. I could be wrong though.

@kmbegs @cornflakes86 @cakebytheoceon @MK85 thank you ❤That does give me some hope!

@Poppiesway1 that's really interesting, thank you! HyFoSy does seem like an improvement (not currently available at the clinic I'm at though 😕) and there are definite downsides to HSG. When you say "HyCoSy and HSG had similar conception rate afterwards", I guess there wasn't a control group to check whether they were any better than no intervention at all?

@jessie92 this is super encouraging. Also frustrating / tantalising though - those are such specific numbers, it makes me feel this must come from a study which should be published and findable. I guess not all scientific journals are available publically so I maybe that's how I'm missing something.

Overall I guess this is the first time I've had to use private medicine, and infertility is obviously such an emotional issue, that I'm wary of being taken advantage of / losing perspective in the fog of TTC. Or spending £450 on a test which I should just save up for IVF.

On the other hand, maybe £450 for a possible increased chance of conceiving naturally is worth the gamble, if it might avoid about the stress / cost of IVF. 😣

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For anyone interested in what I managed to track down, I asked a friend who works in biotech and has access to more journals to have a look, and this summary of different papers was the most useful thing they
could find: Clinical Aspects of HyFoSy as Tubal Patency Test in Subfertility Workup - Table 1 - Enhancing Chance of Pregnancy

The studies range across HyFoSy, HSG and HyCoSy.

Of the two papers focussed on HyCoSy, the one with the larger number of participants (334) concluded there was "no enhanced pregnancy rate", and the one with the smaller number of participants (180) concluded "A possible beneficial effect of HyCoSy is feasible especially in the days following its execution" and noted a 45% pregnancy rate in the first 30 days. A possible glimmer of hope I guess, but I would tend to believe the study with the larger number of participants.

Just to add the info I’ve heard from Dr, the hycosy is said to increase chance of conception by around 70% in the first couple of months after, then going back down to 40% up to the end of the year. I’m having mine next week 😣 really hoping to be in that lucky group. Good luck to you all too! 🍀

@lollosmash I had a hsg

Yea it was definitely a hycosy xx

i completed my masters dissertation on the comparison of HSG to HyCoSy.
Not many nhs trusts use HSG any more..
HyCoSy and HSG had similar pregnancy rate afterwards..
However.. there is a newer way forward called a HyFoSy which uses a foam like contrast instead of the liquid which is pushed through the tubes during ultrasound. The benefit with the foam is that it is more stable and sits in the tubes for longer allowing them to be visualised for a longer period of time (say 5 minutes compared to the very quick - blink and you’ll miss it - flush of the liquid). The HyFoSy is meant to be less painful than either the HSG or HyCoSy - which both had relatively the same pain scores on investigations. More Trusts are moving to the HyFoSy now as the costs were slightly also slightly lower.
the main benefit to HyCoSy / HyFoSy is that there is no radiation. HSG is quite an outdated procedure now however people with a history of PID and a few other contraindications cannot have HyCoSy or HyFoSy and will need to have an HSG.