To bake or not to bake, that is the question...

that doesnt sound like waiting playing!! ha ha!

did have unprotected sex last night though, so I might be pg

We symptom spotting again, I'll join in. I am feeling very tired today (nothing to do with no enough sleep of course) and I am starving (nothing to do with no breakfast), do you think its a sign? Might be a little early to tell on CD4 .

*crossed even!

Good for you Pop, fingers corssed your bosses agree

Teuch 2ww, worse than visiting your MIL isn't it? Keep us up to date with any symptoms

DD is currently at nursery the days that I'm in the office and at £50 a day we can't really afford any more. NJ - I've just emailed my bosses and asked them if i can drop one day and lengthen the days that I do have childcare that way I won't loose money and the other 2 days I will ask family, even if they can only help out for a couple of hours it means that DD isn't trapped with me. I will then get one WHOLE day to spend having fun with my DD. All of you lovely ladies - Thanks so much for your advice. I'm feeling much happier now that I've done someting about it. Will let you know what work says.

Pop- I agree too I also work from home but part-time. Even at that, my DH takes DS to let me work around 70% f my hours. I do the rest either at night or whilst DS is there and he gets very grumpy too...

So it should be the long 2ww for me now... I hate to wish my life away but, as you know, I am just so impatient!!

LG&T...what's the story with you cycle-wise?

pop im with the others, i think somethings gotta give and think perhaps as you are doing them a favour you should just ahve an honest talk with your boss, is she or he understanding? i know that often makes it easier x

Exactly Playing, even though I can see, looking back now, that I was "young" then, when I look at some of my friends now who are the same age as me and some even older, some of them are still no where near ready to bring up kids, and I don't mean from a career prospective, but they are still doing the club scene and put more effort into making sure their eyebrows are tweezed just so than bothered whether they have paid their rent or phone bill this month.

Pop, I am a bit undecided with your dilema, you are 100% correct that your's and DD's happiness comes first, but then if you need the money, it is only another couple of months. And I think I would be looking at it from the POV that before too long you will be the one on maternity leave and you might make things difficult forself with work then. Is there a compromise? Could you ask to have one day off or something? Is there anyone who could look after DD some of the time? Maybe a nursery or CM? If the money isn't too much of a problem to lose, and you don't think it would effect your ML, then I'd tell them you can't work F/T, but will do as much as you can.

Diege, PMSL at babies having babies What is it with old people? Some are the friendliest people you will ever meet, others should be ashamed of themselves T'weren't like it in my day!! I am with you on the packed lunchies, I would quite happily pay someone a lot of money to do DS1's. And yet when he is home I don't mind doing lunches at all.

Popcorn, I second Diege. Family life is more important. Nursery part time is a good idea if you want to keep working, or be honest with your boss, say you tried it and it isn't working and you need to go back to part time hours. I think something has to give, either the hours or some help with DD.

Hmm POPCORN. TBH, I've tried workign from home with dds there, and it's really, really hard (for everyone). Feel free to ignore, but I would either put dd in nursery for at least part of the day I'm WFH, or go back part-time. I actually had to show evidence of dds in nursery for the wfh days I had (which I think is well over the top, as childless colleagues could be out shopping etc/have tv on...). Bit tough that you can't leave computer either, as I'm sure you're entitled to breaks at work!!
So yes, I think if you do want to stay full-time (I did until dd3 was born, then dropped to 4 days)then I would try and sort out some kind of childcare

at the old hag NJ, and at you at going to see MIL - snap!
I remember walking around Boots just before Xmas with dd2 in a sling (about 4 weeks old). Old lady walked past and muttered to herself 'Tsk, babies having babies, Tsk'. I was 32 .
Weekend plans? We're taking dds to the local Indian restaurant, which is superb, for lunch tomorrow (there first time there, our million-eth) and then viewing another house in the afternoon. Will see what weather is like for Sunday, but will no doubt involve getting school things ready for return and sorting otu packed lunches etc (why did I agree dd2 could have them instead of hot dinners ?).I ncan hopefully 'get out' of seeing MIL using the 'marking' excuse (deadline is Monday), so that means a nice afternoon of E4

Morning chicks - very bright and breezy this morning but I need some advice please.

Had had a chat with my mum yesterday and my DH last night. I think I might be letting work make me down. I'm working from home full time with a toddler, well two days in the office and the other 3 from home. I was part time but they asked to go full time for 6 months while someone was off on maternity leave. I'm 2 months in and hating it. DD is crying and angry all the time because she can't get my attention and i feel like I'm trapped in the house as I can't leave my laptop for a nanosecond. The full time money is very handy I must admit but isn't mine and my DDs happiness more important? What do you think I should do? Stick it out for antoher 3/4 months or tell work that I need to go back part time?

Before I lost the baby, I was positive because I new that after the full time stint I would have time off on maternity leave but now there seems to be no end in sight.

Well good for you Natalie, I can't believe anyone would be so mean in this day and age, to Kay as well! Neither of you were exactly teenage mothers, you were both adults! And... there is a whole world of difference between the 18 year old you were compared to the one I was. At 18, I had a lovely boyfriend (who did evenutually become my lovely DH) but was still in Full time education, as was he, so it would have been completely inappropiate for us, but you were married (to an older guy I think you said) financial secure and ready to start a family. It amazes me when people think all 18 year olds are alike.

That sounds lovely BB 6 days? I would have to be somewhere led by the pool in the sun, someone bringing me drinks and food all day, and a good book to make me stay away for 6 days!

Playing, glad you had a good night, and that he was home quickly!! LOL I don't think I looked young for my age, I think she was just a bitter twisted old hag I just shoved my wedding ring under her nose and said I don't think my husband would be too pleased about you killing off our very much wanted baby. She left and I paid the papers, the woman behind the counter said I had done very well LOL Still went home and cried though, so not that well, and the fact that I am even remembering it today isn't good!

Weekend plan, Saturday DH has got a couple of DIY things to do, (fix fence, and door handle, and put clock up) then we have a trip into town planned for DS1. Sunday will probably go and see MIL () and maybe have a roast or something. The weather is supposed to be good again so I am sure a trip to the park/ducks will be on the cards again. Might go to the farm actually, DS1 loves it, and DS2 won't remember going last year.

Thats horrible NJ when i was expecting ds this old woman said to her friend while pointing at me that i didnt know who the father was and that i was a prime example of teenage pregnancy. I was 20 married to the father and ds was planned. I was let off by work for shouting at them. Dh is taking me to york tomorrow and then for a meal.

Morning all. We have been busy on here already. So it sounds as if everyone had a good night then last night . I certainly did (and DH ws home 15 mins after me Natalie).

Kay, well its offical then, your gonna ttc. and your soon by the business end of your cycle, yay .

BB&Kay, I don't think either of you are too young. If you think your ready than age shouldnt matter.

Natalie at that nasty old woman, maybe you just looked younger than you were .

Yeah NJ your right, i wont let it bother me in the least, or at least thats what im saying now!oh i cannot wait till march, i hate waiting!!!

im off out with my nan and grandad tomo cos they want to buy me some special jewellery for my 21st, then sunday we will just layze...loking forward to next weekend more really cos im off from the 25th as its my 21st, gonna have a nice week off, im gonna buy a new laptop too with my birthday casg, so i will be able to MN from home..oh the luxury... i cldnt go a whole six days with out you lot anyway!! thats sad isnt it?? x

BB, even if you say it was a surprise, you will still get the too young comments. I had just turned 18 when I got pregnant with DS1 (who was very much planned) and I will never forget going down to the paper shop in the village we lived in to pay the paper bills, and there was an old lady in there, she saw my bump and asked how far along I was, I said 4 months and she said "Oh so you have time to change your mind then?" I said pardon, she said, it's not like how it was in my day, abortions were illegal.... I went home and cried. Still makes me sad even now!

I like to think someone put her kindness in the boil wash, with her manners and grace.

Anyway, what's everyone got planned for the weekend?

BB, I know what you mean about 'the comments'. TBH, I'm dreading telling people as I think 4 children still has the factor ('you must be mad'...'ooh, you'll be busy', really??? yawn, yawn ). I wouldn't worry about the age factor at all, in fact if I had my time again I would ahve started a family young (my mum had me when she was 16, then my sister at 17 and it was great having a young mum!)

LOL Diege, TBH we seem to be going back through a bit of a honeymoon period! Think combination of the kids going to bed, staying in their own beds, and staying asleep is helping

Kay..... I don't yell, just prompt OK I yell, but it is for their own good (and mine!!) 'Tis exciting waiting for someone to get their BFP, and then I spend all night thinking about what they are doing, knowing how it feels to feel like shouting it to the whole world but if you're lucky you might get to tell your DH!!!

Right school run, then I am having a day of rest, DH has promised more of the same tonight, need to gather my energy...! (He can bugger off if he thinks I am getting all dolled up again though!)

Lol kay you can lead the way the rest of us will follow, i personally am planning to tell RL people that ours will be a unplanned surprise as otherwise ill getthe "you're too young!"

Diege i second your spiritual home comment he he!

teuch i had a look too, some of um are just well..boring lol

BB As soon as get round to doing a test I'll tell you all so you can all be here.
I'll probably need NJ to yell at me to do it as I'll be scared.

Yeah well 7 now I think not quite sure but I think Im going to OV on the 22nd. So I'll be trying the old wives tale for conceiving a girl by having 'some fun' a few days before and on the 22nd just to make sure.

Im really nervous though that people we know in RL will say its too soon after having ds.

well that didn't take long!!! there is a reason why they are unanswered...

Kay - I am very excited about this development