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The millionth 2ww

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pinkpirlie · 16/01/2023 10:10

Just starting a new thread as we are close to the limit on the old one.

@anp2020
@hjudge56
@chillybandits
@annapolis35
@shaker21

Took @annapolis35 suggestion for a name - will link this back in the old one.

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Strawb28 · 01/03/2023 10:41

@ANP2020 sorry to here AF arrived early. That happened me this past 2 months on CD 25 and CD26 last month. I found I ovulated earlier this month because of it. Got my peak on CD11 just incase it may be the same for you. I am 9dpo today. I have noticed some changes in my boobs they feel heavier and are swollen and nipples are bigger (Sorry TMI) this is all new for me as I never experience this before AF however they aren't painful at all just feel uncomfortable at times. Again could be just symptom spotting as usual!!

ANP2020 · 28/02/2023 18:15

Hey guys!

thanks for your messages @Annapolis35 and @Strawb28 ❤️ AF is here in full flow on cycle day 25 so really early (deffo AF and not implantation as very heavy today!) I just don’t know what’s going on!

I'm feeling a bit more upbeat but this month was such a downer!! It’s just becoming really annoying and frustrating and still not knowing why and what is going on with my body!! I’m taking every supplement you can dream of! Eating as clean as I can and still nada! And some people dtd once in a cycle and bam BFP! I really could just pack it all in for a few months but I know then I’ll be a few months down the line and regret doing that!

I’ve ordered everything to give this month everything I can! Ovulation sticks etc and I’m temping too I’ve never managed it for a full month because I find it so difficult and forget to do it! And I’m going to order a progesterone blood test on day 21 so I hopefully can get a true picture! Jumped back on the diet after cheating yesterday with feeling sorry for myself! I just really am worried I’m going to be here another year down the line!! It’s making me nervous!

we need another BFP on here so hopefully someone gets one soon 🤞🤞trying to
go into the next cycle positive but I just can’t shake the grump! It’s just so hard to stay motivated with dtd and the healthy living when disappointment is always around the corner x

Annapolis35 · 27/02/2023 10:05

@ANP2020 so sorry you’re feeling down. It’s so crushing and I’ve had months like that too. Last month I was convinced too as also had a dream that the baby was implanting so was devastated when my period arrived. I also feel quite down too as it’s been a year since I last got pregnant and now it just feels sad and unlikely to happen again. Just gonna try and keep my chin up and be gentle on myself. Please do the same, it’s just so hard having the same result every month

Strawb28 · 27/02/2023 08:45

@ANP2020 i am so sorry you've hit a downer. This process is so so hard especially the months we have ourselves convinced. I had 2 or 3 good months there were I was realistic and didn't think it had happened but here I am on 7DPO and I am convinced this cycle.. Its one way to get a major downer 😢 I really hope you just tested a little too early and you get your BFP this month ❤️

ANP2020 · 26/02/2023 21:17

Hey ladies !

welcome to all the newbies!!

im having a downer day today! I think I could’ve cried if I’d have allowed myself to think about it enough! But I’ve been working so kept me distracted!

so I don’t know why but I’d got it into my head February it would happen (despite all the gallbladder news!) I think the normal day 3 results then plus with that dream with my Nan I just really thought it would so I’m 10dpo today and I tested - BFN of course! But why did I test!? I’ve stopped early testing because of how sad I feel!

well then down the downward spiral I fell with all the whys it not happening! Why me! My boobs were a bit sore but that’s going off now? I feel like Af could arrive at any time but I’m not due on for a few days! I’ve lost that 2 stone so was just hoping it’d made me ovulate!

it’s so hard to pick up and think try again maybe next time! Sorry to be a downer but it’s felt tough today.

ive had loads more than normal yellow cm these past few days! I normally get a bit! My acupuncturist says it’s the mucus plug parts forming that’s why it goes yellow! So I thought an excess was hopeful but just another symptom I can say means nothing!

Annapolis35 · 24/02/2023 21:41

@Strawb28 I think slippery and wet sounds fine! I honestly find it a bit tough to distinguish between them haha, I am pretty sure I get ewcm as sometimes it’s globby (sorry that isn’t a word but couldn’t figure out what to say!).

Strawb28 · 24/02/2023 19:48

Oh @pinkpirlie that is brilliant news. Gives me so much hope. Thanks so much! I'm delighted for you. Such a blessing!

@Annapolis35 that could be were I'm going wrong!! I drink very little water. Must try and improve to see if it helps. I definitely get slippery and wet (sorry TMI) just not EWCM

@NoodleQueen90 good luck with the fertile window. I feel this was my best fertile window yet 🤞🤞

Annapolis35 · 24/02/2023 16:21

Hey all sorry just catching up. Welcome to all new people!

@Strawb28 I have read drinking more water helps with ewcm? I don’t really know, I think mine is more creamy some days but defo slippery.

@NoodleQueen90 good luck on dtd over fertile time!

@pinkpirlie i am happy to hear you are 10 weeks now and all going well other than the nausea, hope you managed to get some medication for it. I did think about a blood panel so that’s a possibility.

my procedure went okay the other day, am a bit sore now as to be expected and bleeding with weird discharge. I’ve learnt they’ve now taken about half my cervix. But I’m glad that’s over and just waiting to see if all clear and the bad cells have all been removed. So no dtd for a month now to let my body recover and heal and will see where we are next month. I guess I need to get the ball rolling on private fertility consultations quite soon.

NoodleQueen90 · 24/02/2023 14:45

Hey guys,
Can I join please?
I'm 32 and TTC#1 😊 cycle 2 of trying and positive OPK today so a busy weekend of DTD coming up and then on to the tww.
I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up but just can't help myself sometimes!

Strawb28 · 24/02/2023 14:07

@Shaker21 I will definitely research this for next cycle if this one doesn't go well! It definitely can be a lonely time and as others have mentioned hard seeing it happen so easily for others. I do completely understand its early days just disheartening after the CP!
Will definitely keep everyone up to date here. 4dpo :)

pinkpirlie · 24/02/2023 14:02

@Strawb28 welcome to the group.
It took me 2.5 years and probably 2, definitely 1nchemical to finally conceive #1. Currently 10 weeks.
These lovely ladies have kept me upbeat for a lot of that time and have been wonderful companions in this really tough and emotional journey.

I too have very little EWCM but got there in the end. I tried with and without conception lube. The months we caught I didn't use it.

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Shaker21 · 24/02/2023 13:46

Hi @Strawb28 Welcome :) Sorry to hear about your chemical, there is some really great group on here and is really nice to have people who understand to vent to and just keep updated where we all are in our journeys. It can feel really lonely sometimes. I know I have heard of people trying evening primrose oil I think to increase EWCM so that may be worth a google to see what that says about it. Have you tried maybe preseed around fertile window to help?

Strawb28 · 24/02/2023 10:39

Hi all, I hope you don't mind me joining but this thread seems like an amazing thread full of supportive women. I'm on my 7th cycle TTC my first. I had a chemical cycle 2 and feel so disheartened each month that goes on from then. My cycles have shortened to 26 days and I ovulated CD12 this month (positive OPK CD11) I'm 4dpo and praying for a good results.

I have a distinct lack of EWCM each month should I be worried about this?

pinkpirlie · 22/02/2023 08:46

@Annapolis35 hope your procedure goes well today. Will be thinking of you. 💜

Sorry I've been awol, I've been feeling so poorly and only just about functioning. Waiting on a call today from the doctor to hopefully get some anti-nausea medicine.

@ANP2020 sounds like an absolute palava with the pharmacy. Glad you got there in the end.
Sorry you are having spotting. Your dream with your nan sounds wonderful, I really hope that it is a premonition of a beautiful little baby boy (or girl) in your future.

@Jen05p @Shaker21 I hope the next round of meds work for you guys.

The unexplained infertility journey is so hard and draining.

Re the needless syringe method - yes, he just did his thing in a pot and then, given it's meant to help, used a toy on me (quicker!) And then when I was close pushed the syringe in so it was almost like the real deal.
It was DP's idea weirdly. As I had been struggling so much with sex on a timetable after 2.5 years, it was really getting to me (& him but in a different way). Only took the one month. We still DTD the old fashioned way several times, but this got extra chances on the days I just couldn't get my head in it.

Have you all had full bloods done? I don't know if it made any difference as the timing was possibly too soon, but in December I pushed for full bloods (rather than the bloods they usually do for infertility which I had already had) and saw I had very low B12, which is known to cause difficulties conceiving. I started eating more foods with B12 and taking a B12 supplement straight away as I couldn't get a doctor appointment until the new year. I did eventually start intensive B12 injections after speaking to the doctor (but by then I was already pregnant). I don't know if the food and weaker supplements made any difference in the few weeks I was taking them, but it's definitely worth getting a full panel just in case.

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ANP2020 · 21/02/2023 21:58

Hey guys!

gosh I’ve had a nightmare day! Had 24 hours of pain so went to the GP to get some prescribed painkillers! She did them sent them electronically to my pharmacy! Their system then crashed and they couldn’t retrieve the prescription or send it back so another pharmacy could have it! I was passed back and forth between people all suggesting different things! Put it this way the medication was prescribed at 09:20am I finally had the medicine in my hands at 19:30!! 10 hours of back and forth!!

I’ve squeezed in my acupuncture today thankfully I’m sure for all those involved today as think it helped keep me zen!!

im about 5dpo and had some slight spotting today, but as this ttc goes on and on I’ve experienced everything before 🤣. Last time I had spotting it was the same cycle day and obvs AF followed so I’m presuming it’s just one of those things!

aww @Jen05p I’m sorry 😞 it really is such an emotional rollercoaster and sometimes so hard to pick yourself back up and carry on! I think we pin such high hopes on the medication as we’ve waited so long already it’s difficult to deal with the disappointment when it doesn’t happen! But it will happen for you!!

@Shaker21 good luck with this third round 🤞🤞

@Annapolis35 hope everything goes ok x

Also guys forgot to tell you! I had a dream and my Nan, who as you all know passed in November, was in it, she was sat on the sofa looking frail but well. She was reading a baby book and it had pictures of different animals and she kept pointing to the picture saying “it’s a boy! It’s a boy” - I wish I could remember what picture the animal was of but I can’t! But I’m really really hoping it’s a pregnancy premonition dream!! X

Shaker21 · 21/02/2023 14:22

@Jen05p Definitely don't lose hope! I have seen plenty of people being on the same dose a few months in a row and it working on the 2nd or 3rd round. Definitely doesn't mean it wont happen! Fingers crossed for this cycle. x

Jen05p · 21/02/2023 14:20

@Shaker21 thanks for responding and sorry to hear that you are on third round...but I really hope it goes well for you this month. My progesterone has always been fine since I've had the tests as I do ovulate every month so they started me on 5mg but my doc said the dose was good so they will keep me on that for the next second cycle. As mine is more unexplained at the moment , they are just trying something to make the ovulation to conception work!! So it will be the same dose, trigger and cyclogest.

I feel uneasy sometimes when nothing changes because it feels like well why would it work this time but that exactly is it right...it might work! Will keep you updated. X

Shaker21 · 21/02/2023 12:39

Morning all,

Sorry to hear that @Jen05p. I know the feeling with now going on to my 3rd round of Letrozole. It doesn't get any easier with getting your hopes up that it'll work. Have you had blood work done to show that the dose you are on is correct level for you? Have they said if or when they would up the dose for you or not?

@ANP2020 I really hope you aren't waiting too long for your surgery date! That must be so frustrating for you.

Good luck for your procedure tomorrow @Annapolis35 I hope it goes ok.

I tried the turkey baster method this cycle just gone @pinkpirlie but obviously can't say whether it worked or helped because my letrozole level wasn't high enough so I will be doing it again this month in the hope that my letrozole level is correct and that it helps. I have heard good things about it from others also!

Jen05p · 21/02/2023 08:31

@Annapolis35 hope everything goes well for today!

Sadly no positive news from me. I had the blood test yesterday and it came back negative so I have been advised to stop taking cyclogest and let my period come. I am so upset but did expect it after 2 negative tests earlier in the week. I read so much about letrozole working the first time that I really hoped it would work. Just waiting for period hopefully next few days and then start again :(. I feel drained and so frustrated at the process of going month to month with all those high hopes.

Annapolis35 · 19/02/2023 10:31

Hi everyone

@Shaker21 sorry that AF has arrived and you need to go on the higher dose. I’m hopeful that this is the one for you.

@ANP2020 sorry about this news, it’s so disappointing and horrid not knowing when surgery might be. Your health is most important though.

@Jen05p i hope your period hasn’t shown up? I hate the waiting and the will it won’t it turn up and am always a bit relieved when it finally does as the waiting is over!

I have my procedure on Wednesday, we have been dtd quite regularly so far (just for fun) as the procedure falls right in fertile period so have counted this cycle out. I’m just of the mindset to deal with one thing at a time otherwise I get overwhelmed and feel a sense of rising panic if I think too far ahead. So hopefully procedure goes ok and the bleeding doesn’t last too long!

Jen05p · 18/02/2023 09:43

@ANP2020 sorry to hear of the news! Hopefully it can all be resolved as quickly as possible and you can get back on ttc ! Hope all goes well keep us updated when you hear of your surgery date. Good to hear you managed to dtd a few times!

@Shaker21 sorry about the increased dosage not doing a lot for you. Praying 7.5 helps! Not sure if this helps but could you ask them about having cyclogest? I was put on this from 2 days after the trigger. Or potentially asking if the trigger would help in any way. I guess just trying and tweaking all these things could make a difference. I know you mentioned it is unmonitored...so with the trigger there would be a scan required to check follicle size.

@Annapolis35 hope this will be the last treatment before you can carry on with ttc, I can only imagine these curve balls really throw things out of control and then you just end up feeling like it's one thing after the other.

I'm on day 29 of my cycle today and not on my period ..yet! I have been feeling af symptoms on and off for a week but as I'm on cyclogest..this could delay period/stop period until I stop taking it. I tested last Monday as it was 14 days after the trigger and was BFN. So I waited until this morning and it was still BFN. I am using the advanced digital CB test. I spoke to my private fertility consultant and they said it's really up to me and how optimistic I am but they can do a blood test on Monday to check hcg levels. I don't know what to do really ..as in one sense I feel like AF is coming. Don't feel very hopeful as had 2 BFNs so really is there any chance?! I guess if AF doesn't come by Monday then I can just go to check. So that's where I am. If not, then I will move onto cycle 2 with letrozole and possibly discuss increasing dose from 5mg to 7.5mg.

ANP2020 · 17/02/2023 16:04

@pinkpirlie it really has! I’ve moved around a bit today! It’s just the thought if it’s a 9 month surgical wait I can’t put off ttc for 9months!! I’ll be 9 months older! It’s cycle day 15 today we’ve managed 3 times in this fertile week so we’re just going to try again for good measure today despite the news as it may already have happened no point giving up halfway!

ahhh that’s interesting I’ll have a look on amazon! So he just goes and does his thing u syringe it up and pop in in straight away? Sorry to be graphic! I’m not sure I could get Oh to do it - although I’d be very thankful of it 🤣

pinkpirlie · 17/02/2023 08:05

@ANP2020 oh my gosh, what unwelcome news. You really didn't need anything else to upset your journey. Hopefully the wait for surgery isn't too long and you can get some answers on whether to continue TTC now or if you have to wait.

Re the turkey baster approach, I have loads of sterile 1mm syringes (not needle ones) for my kazillion pets to give them medicine, so we just used these. I got them off Amazon and they come in all different sizes.

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ANP2020 · 16/02/2023 23:30

So guys I’ve had some rubbish news tonight! I got a text from my GP at 18:30 saying the scan is had yesterday showed gallstones and that it would need to come out! So I’ve been referred to the surgeons!

I don’t get bad gallstones attacks like I’ve been reading about, but went to the GP as I’ve been getting some burning abdo pain, feels like heartburn but in my upper right abdo.

so now my minds a bit all over! Do I still ttc! I’ve no idea how long the wait for surgery is! Do I just stop ttc until I’ve seen the surgeon? I still haven’t received my fertility appt but it’s supposed to come through soon - I bet they won’t start anything until it’s out of it needs to come out!! Sorry just typed everything that’s in my head!!

@Shaker21 i hope AF doesn’t come, it’s almost a bit easier to deal with when you’ve already seen the lower progesterone result so can prepare your mind.

I know what you mean about the letrozole but it only needs to work that one time once they get the dosing right!! I’ve everything crossed!

@pinkpirlie that’s an idea!! Where on earth do you get the equipment you need from?

pinkpirlie · 16/02/2023 12:46

@ANP2020 highly recommend the turkey baster approach if DTD gets too much. It probably wasn't that, but we did that 3 times the month we got the BFP. At least I figure the extra chances can't have been detrimental. After 2.5 years that's the only thing we did differently. 🤣

@Shaker21 hope you have more luck next month. It sounds like your consultant is trying everything to help you.

@Annapolis35 sorry to hear about abnormal cells and having to take more time off, especially when you were starting to feel more positive. Hopefully this will be the last treatment you'll need and you'll be back TTC again asap.

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