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Advice - long cycle lengths and new to TTC

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AROSE9 · 09/12/2022 20:10

Hi, I’m looking for some guidance and advice. I came off my pill (after more than 10 years) in August and TTC. I have only had 2 periods since then my cycle lengths are irregular - 48 days and currently on CD56 and no AF or BFP.

I have been using Clear Blue Digital Ovulation tests which have showed positive ovulation around CD35. I am worried that this is too late and I’m either not ovulating or I have fertility issues (PCOS etc.) is it too early to think this way?

From what I have read your luteal phase should be 14 days and so if no AF or BFP after that should I assume I did not ovulate?

Just purchased a thermometer to track BBT and booked in for blood tests at the doctors but not until the end of the month. Starting to think the worst and wondered if anyone had experienced anything similar? or had any advice? am I other thinking?

Sorry for the long post and thank you in advance!

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Bugs22mk · 09/11/2023 16:52

@AROSE9 I know it has been ages since this thread, but i was just wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing the outcome of your PCOS investigations/ TTC journey since?
I am in a similar situation to you and don't really know where to go from here.

Apat10 · 28/12/2022 14:57

@AROSE9 good idea to ask about a scan if you feel in your gut that something is off - knowledge is very much power on this and getting a diagnosis can open up doors to getting help with medication etc and can speed up referrals too!

I've also heard that PCOS can give false positives on ovulation tests as your body tries to ovulate multiple times hence the LH peak but might not always result in successful ovulation.

I have spent the past year looking every time I wipe for signs of AF and wishing I'd come off my pill earlier so I could be further along by now!

AROSE9 · 28/12/2022 12:44

@Apat10 hi - that’s great for you. Fingers crossed all is good and you get your BFP soon. Keep me updated!

I need to phone doctors tomorrow to get an appointment and I’m going to push for a scan as I am fairly sure I have PCOS. I have given up tracking ovulation as I got a smiley face on CD34 but now no AF I assume I didn’t ovulate and not sure when it will happen - going to wait for a new cycle whenever that may be!

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Apat10 · 28/12/2022 12:39

Hi @AROSE9 jumping on board if you don't mind! I came off my pill December 2021 only had my first period a year later at the start of this month which has been a loooong wait. I had bloods done in April which were normal but my Dr sent me for an ultrasound anyway just to double check and my ovaries do present as being mildly polycystic so worth pushing for a scan too maybe?

I'm waiting to see if this cycle turns out to be a normal length but haven't had a peak on an opk yet and it's cycle day 23 so looking unlikely.

My doctor has been great though and I've been referred to the fertility clinic (I had heard horror stories about referral wait times but I got in very quickly!) They are starting my on letrozole next month assuming all ok with my husband's sperm analysis which should help regulate everything.

AROSE9 · 28/12/2022 11:05

Update - CD75 and still no AF. Blood tests have come back this morning and they are all fine. Really lost on what to do next!

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AROSE9 · 15/12/2022 07:39

@pennysays thank you for that it’s really helpful. I will get some cheepie tests and use them in future. Not sure whether to track now or just wait for a fresh cycle when AF eventually appears!

Hoping that maybe I ovulated at second surge - but did not DTD as often due to cold/flu.

I have been tracking temp this week but the app will not let me see a graph until a new cycle starts. Just counting the days!

Thanks for all your messages everyone - it’s nice knowing it isn’t just me feeling this way and that there is still hope. 😊

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pennysays · 14/12/2022 22:00

Hi @AROSE9 I haven’t read the full thread but will share my experience of long and irregular cycles.

the clear blue digital tests are set off when your hormones peak - they’ll start to show flashy smiley face, but it your hormones drop down again then the flashy smiley face doesn’t change - it stays like that until your ovulation hormones peak or after 10 days - which ever is first. Then it breaks.

if you have long cycles and you might not be ovulating with everyone I would recommend using the cheapie dip tests - you can watch your hormone levels rise and fall on them and see that you might have two peaks and only after the second you ovulate.

no urine test can tell you if you ovulate - only by monitoring your temperature will you know if you ovulate. It’s possible to have lots of hormone peaks and your body doesn’t ovulate - only when your temp goes up have you ovulated.

so get some cheapy tests and a monitoring app and a thermometer and use them to track your symptoms, hormone levels and temp. You’ll start to see patterns.

You are right that once you’ve ovulated then it is always around 9-14 days and then your period will come.

I read a book called period power which explains all this hormone stuff in great detail and was incredibly helpful in grappling with my long and irregular cycles.

Rowen32 · 14/12/2022 21:49

I think the only way to know for sure that you've ovulated is with temperature check but there's so many things to get right with that I never bothered..

Rowen32 · 14/12/2022 21:49

AROSE9 · 14/12/2022 15:55

@Rowen32 so I potentially still ovulated but just later? I find this all so confusing! Thank you for your help

Yes, I wouldn't know only for it happened to me and my period was later that month too which confirmed it!

AROSE9 · 14/12/2022 15:55

@Rowen32 so I potentially still ovulated but just later? I find this all so confusing! Thank you for your help

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Rowen32 · 14/12/2022 14:33

AROSE9 · 14/12/2022 14:29

@Rowen32 no I didn’t, but I have had EWCM in the last week so I assume if u had I would have had another surge. What would it mean if I had more than one surge per cycle?

It just means the egg wasn't released, maybe because of stress and so the body tries again... It happened me once when I was tracking..
Also, I think you can get surges for other reasons like just before your period comes but don't know for sure and that never happened to me but I did have a second ovulation surge once

AROSE9 · 14/12/2022 14:29

@Rowen32 no I didn’t, but I have had EWCM in the last week so I assume if u had I would have had another surge. What would it mean if I had more than one surge per cycle?

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Rowen32 · 14/12/2022 14:21

AROSE9 · 14/12/2022 13:48

@Sagittarius25 still no AF on CD61 - this is my second cycle since coming off the pill in August. I’m glad AF started for you! Last cycle was 48 days.

A positive ovulation test doesn't mean you ovulated. It just means your body sent a message to release an egg but an egg may not have been released. Did you keep doing tests to make sure you didn't get a second LH surge?

Sagittarius25 · 14/12/2022 14:13

@AROSE9 what pill were you on out of interest? I can imagine how frustrating it is getting to CD61 and no AF 😕 just try and keep positive and calm as stress/cortisol won't help, but of course I know it's so hard!

AROSE9 · 14/12/2022 13:48

@Sagittarius25 still no AF on CD61 - this is my second cycle since coming off the pill in August. I’m glad AF started for you! Last cycle was 48 days.

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Sagittarius25 · 14/12/2022 12:10

@AROSE9 how are you doing? AF arrived today for me so last cycle was 38 days and one before 27 days. Only two cycles since being off the pill.

AROSE9 · 13/12/2022 19:10

@Harper02 I know there’s lots of success stories with irregular cycles/PCOS etc but just so disheartening at the very start! Good luck to you on your journey 😊

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Harper02 · 13/12/2022 13:46

Ahh might be PCOS, it's so genetic! I was diagnosed a year ago, had no idea I had it :). Good luck for your bloods. If it is PCOS, there are lots of supplements that can help regulate your period/help you ovulate. I'm currently on clomid :)

AROSE9 · 13/12/2022 13:38

@Harper02 Hi! Yes it is immediate family. I have booked blood tests for next week. Im hoping AF comes soon!

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Harper02 · 13/12/2022 12:28

@AROSE9 sorry to gatecrash your thread but you mentioned you have family with PCOS, is it immediate family? Are you in a position to get a blood profile done?

Sagittarius25 · 13/12/2022 08:12

@AROSE9 oh no! 😩 CD38 here and no AF, although not sure if she's on her way as I've got some spotting. Hopefully she is and not just random spotting! I'm not sure if the folic acid/general conception multivitamins will help bring on AF. I've been on the Holland and Barrett conception which includes folic acid the whole time. So frustrating isn't it!

AROSE9 · 13/12/2022 07:50

@Sagittarius25 CD60 and still no AF 😫 I’ve started taking folic acid vitamins too but not sure whether to get the conceive plus? Just want a fresh cycle to start!

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Sagittarius25 · 11/12/2022 16:21

P.s. still no AF over here 🤣

Sagittarius25 · 11/12/2022 16:20

@AROSE9 I've also ordered omega 3 (making sure it contains DHA) as I've read having enough fatty acids helps balance female hormones and for men can help improve sperm quality (which can only do good!). Neither me or DH get enough fatty acids from our diet alone so only seeing this as a plus 👍🏼

AROSE9 · 11/12/2022 16:15

@BCxx thank you for your advice - I’ve just placed an order for folic acid as heard a lot of good stuff about that so hopefully it will help.

At this point I just want AF to appear so I can start a fresh cycle - close to CD60 now 😫

Thank you for sharing your story it reassures me and is nice to know I’m not alone in this!

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