One year+ TTC part 4

@NatW2021 also … probably not helpful info but I was on Fragmin for my transfer - don’t know if that made a difference but could have helped implantation 🤷🏻‍♀️ I follow someone on insta with an autoimmune disease and she used blood thinners, steroids and intralipids in her protocol … not sure if that’s of any use with hashimotos but it just popped into my head so thought I’d share xx

@NatW2021 Hi lovely. So sorry to hear this round didn’t work for you. Stay strong and keep going! 🫶🏼

Yes, my hubby had high DNA frag so in the 3 month run up to IVF he made a ton of lifestyle changes and was taking Impryl, Fish oil and vitamin D. Impryl is meant to be the best for DNA frag (I also took the same for egg quality because of my low AMH.) Happy to list the lifestyle changes as well if you need them. Our clinic were quite blaze about DNA frag and said their recommendation to overcome it would be to just do ICSI but I’d already read a lot about it and advise people had received from Dr Ramsey so I knew that there was definitely a way to improve it before heading into IVF so that we had the best outcome. In the end, we tried ICSI on 10 of our eggs and IVF on 8 of them and the IVF group still ended up with a better outcome! Unfortunately never did a second DNA test so we don’t know exactly how much DH’s efforts would have changed his results.

Re your two embryos - there is absolutely a chance they were genetically normal (unless your DH has 100% fragmentation which is highly unlikely !) unfortunately, the only way to know is to do PGTA testing which costs a small fortune. It’s definitely a good idea though to head into the next round armed with all the info and a plan (fingers crossed you won’t need it though and your Jan transfer is a success! 🤞🏼)
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Thanks Ladies it's been a really tough few days but I'm feeling a little better day by day.

I had my appt with the dr this morning and she suggested prednisolone which is a steroid for my next transfer in January, I had done research and wanted to try this due to my autoimmune condition so happy to try it.

We spoke about possible changes for my next cycle if this last transfer doesn't work. They suggested a DNA trag test for DH I think based on low embryos, we had 8 looking good on say 3 then only ended up with two on day 5, 1 5AB and grade 2 embryologist said this is equivalent to a 2AB

@Koalie I know you DH had some DNA issues so my question is, if this is the case do you know if the two embryos I had we're always doomed to fail or do we still have hope they were genetically normal?

Also going to try and get DH on better suppliments just incase, he's a typical man and moana about taking 1 wellman supplement a day so bare that in mind haha. X

I’m so sorry @NatW2021, sending gentle hugs. Keeping everything crossed you can get a final transfer in 2023.

@SarahShorty I am so sorry too, sending love xxx

@NatW2021 I'm really sorry it was still BFN :( Look after yourself.

@NatW2021 so sorry you didn't get your BFP. It's there in your future I'm sure of it. The never ending time line is so hard to manage. Sending you a big hug. X

@Koalie I'm 8dpt now and still negative I'm absolutely heartbroken and just been so tearful all weekend. I know it doesn't always work out first time and I'll pick myself up again but really hard to trust the process. I've stopped my progesterone now and hopefully I'll start my period sooner rather than later and we might be able to do our last transfer from this cycle before xmas, I've got some questions for the clinic and will be pushing for steroids and blood thinners as I have a minor autoimmune condition hashimoto so just had a gut feeling it wouldn't work using a standard approach but was willing to give it ago. I am sick to death of seeing negative tests I just don't even know how to keep plodding on. Sorry to be miserable I know you ladies understand l. Z

@NatW2021 Sorry lovely, didn’t get a notification for your message. I had my + at 6dpt but I had read that it’s rare to have one that early. I’ve got all my fingers and toes crossed for you! Xx

@NatW2021 Sorry you had a BFN :(

@FlyOnTheWall89 lovely to hear from you and wow 9 months that has flown by, how are you doing? I can't believe I'm still I'm in this situation and no closer to a BFP seriously losing hope it will ever happen.

@Koalie I'm 6dp5dt and stupidly did a test, I've got a feeling it's not going to work out, always had a feeling something serious is preventing this ever happening. good embryo/good lining so god knows! been sobbing all morning. When did you get a positive?

Best of luck @NatW2021 - I had zero symptoms ... baby is just about to turn 9 months... time flies! Keeping everything everything crossed for you

Sorry to hear this @SarahShorty 😔there are just no words xx

@NatW2021 not an Ivf pregnancy, we magically got our bfp the week we were due to start. I am 4w4d and symptoms only started yesterday a touch. I did not feel any difference at all until then. If I hadn't tested I would have been convinced my period would have arrived.
Hope this helps, I feel silly for all the symptom spotting I did now, due to how nothing the symptoms actually were lol

@SarahShorty so sorry,😔 I am very aware the worrying only gets worse its just an horrendous process. Sending lots of love x

@Koalie - thank you for sharing, what will be will be not much I can do and I'll try to not over analyse. I'm not analysing all the positives more that the way I feel is that I'm out, but long to wait in the grand scheme of things x

@NatW2021 I tried not to symptom spot or look into anything but it is impossible. The only things I’ve had in a tww when I’ve been pregnant that I didn’t have in all the times I wasn’t were a sore throat and itchy bottoms of my feet at night time 😂 so bloody random haha but that’s kinda when I know. Anything else, boob twinges, stomach pains etc have never been a tell tail sign for me. I caved at 6dp5dt 🤭 x

I haven't been on here in a while, but just thought I'd add my tuppence regarding the TWW with IVF. And apologies if I come across bitter because I am miscarrying a 5 week old FET at the moment;

The TWW after having the transfer done is nothing compared to the waiting for the viability scan. Seriously, it's awful.

On a lighter note, I wish you all only the very best of luck xx

@Koalie the days go quick but such a long wait for OTD which is a week today! Just a bit nervous about period arriving as I'm on a natural cycle and due on Tuesday, I'm on cyclogest clinic said that usually holds period off a bit.

I know I'm wasting energy even analysing but did you have AF twinges/feelings in your TWW? Starting to feel like I can feel something going on with my boobs but I'm very aware it's nothing 🙈

@NatW2021 eeeek! Just keep yourself busy .. go for a nice walk, get stuck into a Netflix series. Have you decided when you’re going to test? X

@Koalie @TheBirdintheCave ladies I'm 5dp5dt and losing the plot, lots if cramping and twinges last few days which I just associate with AF this wait is torture!

Worrying my period will come before I even get to test. Any tips to keep me sane? X

Amazing news @TheBirdintheCave !! Hopefully you can relax a little now the big scan is out of the way 🥰 I know that’s often easier said than done 😆

@NatW2021 … nearly transfer day for you! PMA always … sending hugs xx

@TheBirdintheCave Amazing so glad everything went well. 💕 x

@AgeGapBbe Thanks :) I'm still in shock I think. Feels like a bit of a dream.

Congratulations @TheBirdintheCave I’m so pleased it’s still going so well for you

@NatW2021 Yes it did! Sorry I always forget to update this thread 😂Baby was happily waving and turning over. I'm 13+2 now.

I hope you ovulate on time. Not too long left to go now! :D

@TheBirdintheCave hope everything went well with the scan?

@Koalie I'm just waiting for ovulation now, I'm doing a natural FET, so hopefully some point towards the end of next week/weekend for transfer. Just hope I have a normal cycle this month, last month was a bit weird and I didn't detect a peak but my temp did rise and I had my period as normal although temp rose later than normal so my cycle was a bit longer. So nervous that this won't work I'm like 90% it won't in my head!