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One year+ TTC part 4

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lemons44 · 20/11/2022 10:45

Hi all
Onto thread 4! Hopefully this one is lucky for us 🍀 🤞🏼

Just a supportive thread for those of us who have been TTC for over a year. New faces are welcome. Feel free to vent, cry, laugh, ask silly questions, seek advice and talk about anything.

Tagging our BFP ladies who are rooting for us too.

@Tinkerbell098
@NatW2021
@Koalie
@Netflixnchilli
@JSS15
@BakinABaby
@KatieLooLa
@Indianna2006
@Carla2601
@BritInNZ
@FlyOnTheWall89

Feel free to tag anyone I have forgotten.

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Koalie · 17/12/2022 08:26

@Carla2601 @Tinkerbell098 oh thank god for that. That makes me feel so much less scared! I’ll just have to ask her not to be shy with the drugs 😆 thanks girls xx

Tinkerbell098 · 15/12/2022 23:31

@Koalie mine called it mild sedation rather than general anaesthesia so I was still completely out and just slept through the whole thing, similar to what @Carla2601 described. The recovery was very quick I’m sure it’ll be fine X

Carla2601 · 15/12/2022 22:55

@Koalie i was sedated…..you’re completely out for the count but without the drowsiness of a general I felt 10/10 afterwards so don’t worry!

summerchild92 · 15/12/2022 20:22

@SaraSS you’re right! I got a high reading at 6pm and even higher at 8pm. Haha :) I plan to take another in the morning to see if it gets even higher, then we are off for a weekend getaway with some friends! Seeing as you’re supposed to ovulate 24-48hrs after the peak I’ll probably ovulate on Saturday or Sunday…

regarding your test … I think it’s still pretry early. Are you using internet cheapies to test or have you done a frer?

SaraSS · 15/12/2022 16:19

@summerchild92
Sounds like you're nearly at ovulation.. they're sometimes hard to read if it's not blazing obviously darker than the control, or if you only get chance to test once a day etc.

No news this morning, tested but just looked negative, I had a bit of a detailed look but didn't have much time before work... see what tomorrow morning brings! (Or more likely this evening lol)

KatieLooLa · 15/12/2022 13:22

Well the results are in.... not terrible but not great either..
SO's sperm are going around in circles but this may be due to the time it took from the sample being collected to then being tested, so needs to do another sample.
As for me they suspect that I may have PCOS, I foresee a lot of OPK's in my future...

summerchild92 · 15/12/2022 12:20

@SaraSS how did your am test turn out? Fx for you!
I’m CD15, usually I get a positive by now. I got a good line just now actually, but premom app is still showing low. I’ll take a few tests throughout the day today and then tomorrow morning to see if this is actually a peak. The second line is almost as dark as the control one, so I think I should get a peak soon-ish? The opk was much lighter in the morning so I’m sure I’ve not missed it.

Koalie · 15/12/2022 09:50

@Tinkerbell098 omg I’m so jealous. My clinic don’t do general for egg collection but I’ll be sedated. I’m petrified! When I had my missed miscarriage I had my ERPC under local with gas and air and that was bad enough 😩 I’ve never been sedated before so have no idea what to expect. 🥺 I’m so pleased you’re nice and relaxed for this transfer! I’ve got everything crossed for you that it’ll be your rainbow 🤞🏼 x

Tinkerbell098 · 15/12/2022 09:47

@Koalie does your clinic knock you out completely for egg collection? Mine did and it was the best sleep I ever had! Really don’t worry about it. The only bit of ivf I found hard was the TWW, getting a BFP and miscarrying. The rest of it was a breeze honestly. I’m fine about the FET. So much more relaxed and it’s not even on my mind half the time. Having a scan tomorrow hope everything’s ok for transfer next week 🤞

Koalie · 14/12/2022 22:16

@Carla2601 Getting so close now 🤭 hope you’re managing OK with the last trimester.. you must be so excited ! 🥰

Koalie · 14/12/2022 22:14

@Tinkerbell098 … thanks for the reassurance re the hormonal side of things. I think I’m most scared about the egg retrieval tbh … 😬 So pleased you’re able to get started with your FET! How are you feeling about it? X

@NatW2021 hope you’re doing OK hun. X

@SaraSS … that sounds promising! Good luck with your AM test .. keep us posted x

Tinkerbell098 · 14/12/2022 21:52

@lemons44 @Koalie how exciting you maybe starting soon! I think long protocol is the standard they go with if there are no known issues. The only reason they put me on short was due to the national suprecur shortage at the time. Think I’ve read that you generally collect more eggs with long protocol but the number of blasts you get in the end is comparable to short so I was told there is no big difference in the end result with the two protocols (provided you don’t have any other issues eg PCOS). Also don’t worry too much about side effects. I was also dreading it all but didn’t even feel a thing other than bloating, which was quite manageable. But I was on short, so can’t really comment on the downreg part of it. How long will you be downregulating for @lemons44 ?

I have now started my frozen cycle and have a scan on Friday to see if my lining is doing ok. Frozen is much easier than a fresh cycle and I’ve forgotten that I’m actually on a cycle at the moment. I’m just on three oestrogen tablets a day so haven’t had much impact on my daily routine at all and zero side effects so far.

hope everyone else is doing ok X

Carla2601 · 14/12/2022 21:01

@lemons44 try not to worry too much - it was so much less bad than I was expecting and I did really worry about hormones too but I felt fine. Not saying that means you will just mean it’s not a given that you’ll have side effects ☺️. We’ll all be here cheering you on and for any questions we can help with

SaraSS · 14/12/2022 19:21

@summerchild92
I'm around 7dpo (so Yes, super early)
I've actually had some symptoms (and not the imaginary ones lol) yesterday and today I noticed lots of creamy cm and the day before I had some period type pains, nothing bad but enough that I logged it on my tracking app.
I have got sore boobs today but I had to do some manual labour yesterday so I may just ache from that!
I've tried so hard to photo this test but I can't get what I can see to show up on a photo. I've done another test but it's just white, as expected really.
I'll be taking another tomorrow morning!
How many CD are you? Can't be far off ovulation now?

summerchild92 · 14/12/2022 18:39

SaraSS · 14/12/2022 17:39

Just stared at my torch for too long and can see many stars in my eyes now lol. I'll see if I can capture it on photo asap. It's the faintest thing but I can see it... (with a back light and out of timeframe!! LOL)
Really does make you loose your mind this TTC!!

So exciting @SaraSS !!! How many dpo are you? Post a pic and we’ll help you spot the line 😂😝
I haven’t ovulated yet according to premom opks I ordered online 😬

SaraSS · 14/12/2022 17:39

Just stared at my torch for too long and can see many stars in my eyes now lol. I'll see if I can capture it on photo asap. It's the faintest thing but I can see it... (with a back light and out of timeframe!! LOL)
Really does make you loose your mind this TTC!!

SaraSS · 14/12/2022 17:30

Oh my days.. ladies.. I'm so so early testing... and it's been left a few hours (totally against all the testing rules!!)... but if I shine a light on my IC test I swear I see a line...
It's too thick to be an indent, and I swear it's got the tiniest bit of colour.
Oh please let this be it!! I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up... I'm aware it doesn't count if it's outside the 5 or 10 minutes, but this is the closest I've been....
I'll try and get a photo...

NatW2021 · 13/12/2022 16:52

@lemons44 - Thank you 💗 so excited for you both @Koalie

I think its a few things at the moment - Christmas doesn't help seeing all the family stuff going on and just feeling so left out and hard done to that we cant do that stuff with our baby. Also i am 35 in a few weeks and i just feel time is running out.

I am also starting to wonder what my results look like now as its been nearly 12 months since my initial tests.

@lemons44 - my lining has always been fine on scans so not sure why they are so light and painless. How much have you been quoted for IVF meds? X

Koalie · 13/12/2022 13:45

@lemons44 that’s great that you had your consultation! :) your AMH is quite a bit higher than mine and I’m on short protocol 🤔 I found conflicting opinions on Google about this so I’m just trusting the clinic here that they’ve got me on the right one 😆 re the water, the minerals in tap water apparently isn’t good and also BPA in the plastic of bottled water. Ah yes, that’s something else I forgot to put on my list. I’ve been meditating using the IVF meditation app ‘evoke’ … I get stressed quite easily so I’ve been really trying to work on that ☺️ I hadn’t thought about the hormonal aspect but I’m close with my boss who knows what’s going on and I work from home. Are you able to let people at work know what you’re going through or would that be a big no no for you? Xx

lemons44 · 13/12/2022 13:34

@NatW2021 I found Access Fertility quite easy to talk to. I just asked the on live chat to send me the price list and they just asked about which clinic we was going with and then emailed me it all. I think the good thing about these multi-cycle packages is it reduces that pressure on the first round working.

Thank you, and please don't apologise. I know that dark cloud and it sucks. I hope you're ok ❤️ My periods are also pretty light. Do you have thin lining? Have you looked into L-arginine and raspberry leaf tea? When I got my thin lining results I tried both of these from CD 1 until ovulation and I noticed my period was heavier that cycle.

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lemons44 · 13/12/2022 13:25

Hi @BakinABaby a round refers to the egg collection. So if you end up with one embryo to transfer and 2 to freeze and transfer later.. that's all still the one round. It becomes a second round once you need to do egg collection again. A Stockholm cruise.. 😱 I am SO jealous. Sounds like you have a lovely trip to look forward to xx

Thanks @Koalie your list is really helpful. What's the reasoning behind the filter water? I have been so healthy the last two days. I tried fertility yoga yesterday.. It was a video where she showed you five poses and you are supposed to do each one for five minutes and increase blood flow to the womb area. At first I thought it was a bit hippy for me but I did one in bed last night before sleep and it was relaxing so I thought I might as well try and continue it.

We had our IVF consultation this morning 😃 I really like our consultant. She is recommending I do long protocol so down reg first. What was you recommended @Koalie ? As I think our AMH was similar? Mine was 14.6 and 17 follicles. We are just paying for DH's sperm to be transported and then I can start. Hoping we can get it transported before Xmas so I can start on my Jan cycle.

I suddenly feel petrified if I'm honest. I'm scared about the hormonal aspect and whether it will impact me at work and I will be tearful whilst in meetings and stuff. Xx

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BakinABaby · 11/12/2022 22:13

Hope you guys don't mind me asking, I'm just curious as I don't live in UK, whether the '2 rounds' means two retrievals and however many blasts you get from it or two transfers only.

I got my period monday this week (or last week as I'm writing this) so onto the final cycle this year for me. No hope anymore each cycle for me. It doesn't really make me sad, the emotions I get are more of a mix of total indifference/numbness and anger. And now literally all the girls in my dd's birthmonth group chat, that wanted another child close in age, have already given birth and I'm not even pregnany. Oddly I don't find it difficult to hear pregnancy news or be around pregnant women or small babies, but damn I just wanna get going with it and move on. Still looking forward to the fertility specialist on the 19th and taking the family on a small Stockholm cruise just before christmas after that, hoping the little one is well then, imagining her running around on the ship and the ball pit (something I never got to experience as a kid interestingly) and then christmas town in Stockholm gives me good energy.

Koalie · 11/12/2022 12:24

And when I say ‘if for any reason it fails’ I mean if for any reason we don’t end up with any embryos to transfer. Because ultimately I think that’s what I’m most scared of because of my low AMH 🥺

Koalie · 11/12/2022 11:12

@lemons44 That sounds dreamy! I’m going to do the same and start an IVF diary I think. Also going to steal your idea with the Christmas films! ☺️
So, here is my list. But bear in mind, some sites say egg quality can’t really be improved, e.g. “There's not much you can do when it comes to improving your egg quality. Egg quality is not a scale of healthy to unhealthy, with measures in between—it's a binary state of either normal or abnormal.” But there are lots of others that suggest all sorts of changes can help over the 90 days that your eggs take to mature so that doesn’t make it easy 🙄
I am only doing these things in case there’s a small chance I can make a difference, and at least I will know that if for any reason it fails, I did everything I could and have no regrets.

  • 0 Alcohol
  • 0 Caffeine
  • Supplements - Impryl, fish oil & vit D
  • Drinking only filtered water & stay hydrated
  • Downloaded the Yuka app and replaced any unsafe cosmetics with safe options
  • Not heating any foods in plastic Tupperware (bought some Pyrex ones)
  • Almost completely cut out sugary and fried/processed foods with the odd sweet treat on a weekend 🤭
  • I make a big batch of juice every week from Jason Vale’s book to get a load of extra fruits and veggies in
  • Exercise twice a day (even if just a walk around the block) to keep blood circulation going
  • Avoiding covid at all costs 🙅🏻‍♀️
  • Foods to eat - asparagus, spinach, avocado, nuts & seeds (Brazil and almonds, flax and pumpkin mainly), full fat Greek yoghurt, wholemeal rice and pasta as opposed to white

I think that’s it lol. Hubby is doing all the same plus some other bits but your OH is obviously off the hook there having already provided the goods 😆 x

NatW2021 · 11/12/2022 10:16

@lemons44 - i am looking at the refund package aswell - i need to check if i would still be entitled to a free round after going private. You get two free rounds in my ccg. As i was looking at the three cycle package so could save ourselves some money if that is the case.

AF showed up on Friday, even after 2
months of accupunture my periods are still so light i still have a niggling feeling its not normal even though scans/drs say everything looked fine - i am not convinced.

Really pleased to hear your good news about 2-4 cycles! Sorry i am just responding i am only just coming out of the dark AF cloud xx