What IVF dose and how many eggs did you get?

@SH998 I would say if you go private later, they won’t force you to do anything but they do put a lot of pressure on you, although it depends on the clinic. Like after my first Fertility MOT i was pressured to have the Hysteroscopy, they told me to have it with the nhs and that was 6 months waiting. So annoying! The idea was in the clinic’s transvaginal scans they could see something inside my womb, they knew it was a fibroid but they couldn’t tell from their scans if it was blocking the Fallopian tubes. Maybe if I jumped to ivf first where Fallopian tubes aren’t important they wouldn’t have encouraged me so much to have the Hysteroscopy. I feel the clinic would only ask you to do one if they believed there was something with your womb lining they want to visually see. I doubt it as your body has achieved a pregnancy.

Thats good you’ve started the progesterone. The cramping must be the Lubion. Does it mention those side effects in the instructions? Good it’s not severe. Is the progesterone test a finger prick test or urine test? Hope it’s the right level. I can’t imagine it not being as you are on 2 progesterone meds. Do you eat chips after your transfers? You know the famous have McDonald fries after a FET? I’ve never done it but I do have chips that day, I did last FET. Just something funny to do after, part of the IVF community, like a good luck thing.

Yeah it has. I am going to keep testing, todays is darker, I’m 11dpt, that’s a good thing as I’m mindful of it fading, chemical pregnancies. I will continue to test, the only test that can give you an idea of your HCG count is the Clearblue weeks indicator. For eg 1-2 weeks is 10 to 152hcg. Next time mine should be over that.

I’m still having bad trapped gas near my chest top of my stomach, have to catch my breath, it’s quite loud as it moves. I’m in the office tomorrow so I need to control myself not groaning, 😂 I have had wind feeling in my left hip, not severe but it’s where my ectopic was which has makes me a little worried, as last time it was like bad trapped wind there and it turned out to be ectopic. It doesn’t feel exactly the same, last time was like someone pinching between your tummy and thigh which is how trapped wind was for me as a child. This time it’s no where near that intense. But it’s so early.

Saying that the positives are my ectopic symptoms started later, 5 weeks, not 4 weeks last time, I have felt a little of the same feeling in my right side so could just be wind. I’m clearly full of gas. In my failed FETs I’ve had the hormones cause twinges in my hips, so could be that. Have to wait and see but I don’t feel like it’s 100% I’m going to stay pregnant, or 100% not it really is a wait and see.

@SH998 I can understand that unexplained fertility is annoying and frustrating. If they could say this one specific this is wrong then they can fix it. Did the IVF clinic take a explorative look at your womb like hysteroscopy and hycosy. Like the hycosy they push water through your cervix to your ovaries they see on a screen if water can't get there ie an obstruction the sperm can't get there. Often then just can't find anything that's pretty normal for them and IVF does the hard part of conception.

They made me do all that for the IUIs. My first attempt at pregnancy ever was the IUIs, so never tried to get pregnant naturally. They say 3 to 6 trys is best with IUIs. The women I watched online got pregnant on their 3rd try they were 39. I was so disappointed. I did 4 tries.

Hopefully this attempt will be it for you. I hope the embryo is all good. My last egg collection and pregnancy was 2 months before my 40th so hope that coincidence gives you good luck.

The pregnancy symptoms are really kicking in. The wind in the top of my stomach is a lot, lot of discomfort. I'm relieved it's position is so high as my ectopic what was mimicking wind pain was really ectopic pain but it was much lower down in my hip and lower womb. Last few days been very tired. I fell asleep on Saturday and again today during the day. Tired during the days. So hoping that's all the symptoms I have until my hospital app.

I saw ultrasounds at 5 weeks online so hoping the transvaginal scan picks up my pregnancy that early. If I get the same nhs doc as last time she was very thorough with scanning. The sac would be 6mm so that's not microscopic. Hope my fibroids don't block anything.

@SH998 Sometimes there can be nothing physically or even mentally wrong and a person doesn’t get pregnant naturally. I know people in my day to day life it took them 3, 7 and even 10 years to naturally get pregnant. So there easily may be nothing wrong with your body. It’s a case that the people I know had time on their side so could keep trying as opposed to try IVF get pregnant that way and write themselves off as naturally infertile which would be incorrect.

I have fibroids, didn’t know until I went for my fertility MOT. It explained my heavy periods in my mid 30s. There’s like at least 6. The ivf doctor made it into such a big deal. I had to wait 6 months until I saw the NHS hospital they put a camera inside, a Hysteroscopy, was like it’s so not a big deal, women get pregnant with them all the time as long as they’re not obstructing your tubes. There was one inside my womb very tiny, so I was worrying myself what if a embryo tries to implant on it and that cause it to fail as it was not receptive womb lining. Then the clinic made me do a Hycosy where they see if liquid could get to my ovaries, as I was doing IUI that was fine. So sometimes what we think is a big deal isn’t.

As you say you are ovulating, producing a decent amount of eggs, your hormone levers are good, no clotting issues, your womb lining is amazing, I mean vaginal bleeding is often from the womb and it’s not affecting your lining. You have been pregnant before so your body is capable. One doctor on YouTube said getting naturally pregnant is like the mechanics of a watch, so many pieces to it and had to be at the precise right time. Start taking your progesterone tomorrow that’s good.

i was looking at my strips, day 4DPT the lines were really light but visible and the day 5DPT it was darker, but I was in denial and didn’t want to say yes for sure, so at least your pregnancy testing will be clearer for you. When will you start testing? I would say 5DPT is the absolute earliest you could see something.

@SH998 Well that's good they've said to take the eostrogen until 10 weeks. My clinic they give you a time one or two days prior. On the day you come in, they don't usually call ahead of time on the day about the embryo. My consent forms says about them thawing another embryo if the prior one fails. Yeah most times my transfers are mid day. This time it was 10.45am.

Sounds like the spotting is a part of your period, like the start of it. A couple times I've had spotting a day before. Once for 2 days before. Have they said why you bleed after the transfer? Is it the speculum or the catheter? Both FETs near my period my body was busting with needing to start my period like tension.

I've been a lot healthier the month leading to my transfer, just eating what is good for pregnancy like oats, veg, nuts, 100% juice no added sugar. I didn't drink more water or anything. I did watch a video that said not to drastically change your diet near your transfer. I agree. You don't want your body focusing on new food rather than the embryo. I've attached a snippet of a instruction list my clinic gave me post transfer. I think womb and body wise your fine and receptive to a pregnancy. It's putting faith that your embryo is not abnormal as that's the main reason it wouldn't survive implantation. Before you know it you will have had your transfer.

Yeah feels strange. I'm still in some denial but I know it will sink in when or if they say everything's fine. My clinic's meant to call in the next few days to ask about the test. I definitely feel like it's a second pregnancy not a first one, my first loss is still very much in my heart. I feel very different to last time. Just more guarded I guess. Believe me i am happy that it's happened again, just my mind and heart protecting itself.

@SH998 wait a sec you said the clinic said take the eostrogen up until transfer? Then the clinic said you would stop on transfer day? No my clinic has told me to take until a negative or 8 to 12 weeks if pregnant.

@SH998 That's exactly how my clinic is, you start the cyclogest for 5 days and on the 6th day is your transfer, day 19 like myself. Progynova as in the eostrogen pills? Yes with a frozen transfer you have to take eostrogen pills from day 2 of your cycle all the way to 8 to 12 weeks of a pregnancy until the placenta takes over.

Fresh transfer you dont take eostrogen pills as your body has enough eostrogen from all your stimulated eggs. I'm taking 6mg a day still. Lubion they were talking about me having it and then I didn't, that's the progesterone in injection form, that should put you at ease knowing you have loads of progesterone in you.

Sounds like everything is going well. 😊 remember they wouldn't allow you to go forward with a FET this cycle if they didn't believe your body was receptive. When I was going through it I had all this faith in my body but I was more like come on embryo be normal and healthy as that's the one thing we don't know at the time.

Today I've been pretty tired and had a lot of wind in the same area under my ribs top of my tummy. I caught myself moaning from the discomfort luckily I'm working from home today. 😂 got to control that in the office. I read that's the progesterone creating wind. Then twinges in my hips hopefully it's just the meds.

@SH998 im happy to hear your scan went well. ☺️ I can understand feeling anxious about the whole thing as you never know what they may see or say. But you have some really good lining thickness there. Day 10 mine was 6.7mm and day 13 was 8.8mm. So yours is really good. It will get thicker until you take the progesterone which stops it getting thicker and creates a receptive environment for baby. My womb lining thickened 0.75mm a day! Bet yours is a thicker rate. One woman on YouTube had a lining that was 12mm on day 12 and she got pregnant that time. Great so you will find out your transfer date soon then.

I feel less in denial, I feel like yes I’m pregnant but being pregnant doesn’t mean a baby at the end of it, so it’s getting through things step by step. Talking of which I have my appointment with the EPU on the 18th July, 5 and a half weeks I will be, they said we like to look at 6 weeks but when I said the ectopic ic pain started at 5 weeks she changed it, she said call us if you start getting any pain. I know exactly what the etopic pain vs just a bit of aches and pain so that’s something. Plus during the pain all of a sudden there was a surge of blood down there. I guess each ectopic experience could be different. I’m just treading on egg shells mentally for the next few weeks scared of at any moment pain could start. That’s trauma for you.

So maybe next Thursday your transfer…

@SH998 i was thinking of testing until I get my dye stealer but I think I’d really only get that on a First Response test as I tested a day after the trigger and it was just 2 strong lines not a dye stealer. The clearblue 10 to 153 HCG equals the test saying 1 to 2 weeks pregnant so I know I’m in that range, last time at 5 and a half weeks I was 7900. That was higher than the average.

I'm going to call the EPU today, do a self referral as they did say call when you get your positive. Then I think what will happen is they will call me in for only blood tests to begin with 2 days apart to see if it’s doubling, then they will scan but I think they have to wait until 5 weeks as it’s so early to see a baby. The fertility clinic will only book me in for a 6 week scan, that’s it, that’s there way with checking all patients that it’s viable. Last time I knew before their scan something was wrong as I had already gone to the hospital.

Usually especially after a transfer I would get a Uber, but this time I got a train, it’s a 20 minute walk from the station to home. The station has a staircase to get to the next platform and I read you should try to avoid stairs and I was like not today I’m going to climb them, I mean last transfer I was all delicate with my Uber it failed, this time I wasn’t.

I feel like it’s a step by step process. It’s like getting pregnant is great but then got another 2 to 3 weeks to know if it’s in the right place and even if it is is it healthy to sustain a pregnancy, so the roads not over. Yes I did get pregnant pretty quickly in that it was my second attempt after my pregnancy loss.

I would say as long as you’ve been taking the baby aspirin for a week before your transfer it will have started thinning your blood to prevent clotting and promoting implantation. Then esp during the two week wait. I know my 4Cb. So many times I read how poor quality they are. I got pregnant with a 4Bb last time so Bs can be good too. Good luck for today. ☺️

@SH998 Aww thank you. Yes I can say I am definitely pregnant. I did a pregnancy strip test this evening and it would have been diluted but it was so much darker than this morning which inspired me to take the clearblue. It says 1 to 2 weeks but that's since baby was conceived not since last period. So due date is different on different pregnancy calculators but it's looking like the 14th March 2024.

Right now I can't get attached. Not until I know baby is in the right place. I'm so jaded. Its hard. But of course thankful to get pregnant. Its only been 4 months since my pregnancy loss ended.

I was taking baby asprin 30 days before transfer and I'm still taking it, will continue until the placenta takes over from the yolk sac. I was reading one of the causes of chemical pregnancies is clotting issues.

Another thing I did was I bought Baileys the new flavour Colada that i was excited about and I said to myself if I don't get pregnant I have a consolation prize to try and maybe that lack of all or nothing feeling inside relaxed me to get pregnant. Maybe grasping at straws but I just want to share every little thong different that happened this time round to you as you never know. Remember the 20 minute walk I had.

I'm really hoping this is it for you. Please let me know how your scan goes.

@SH998 I was in the office today at work, pretty busy too. So weird as this time it's way easier keeping schtum.

I think I'm just in denial after my last pregnancy. Last time it was really quite magical and I was aware what could go wrong but never imagined how bad it would be, how the nhs was so happy to send me home without a scan, then the weeks of pain. I know it sounds silly to be in all this denial, it's not like I accidentally got pregnant. I will start believing soon. Maybe a bit of shock is a good thing.

Last time the trouble started at 5 and a half weeks, strong intense pain in my left hip. So as I'm no where near 5 weeks I think it's too early to tell. Hoping to go to the EPU next week to start being monitored. Technically I could call them tomorrow as that's my period due date but it's not 2 weeks from ovulation, Friday is.

I've had very light twinges in my left hip where my ectopic was but I had the same but worst in my last failed FET so it could easily be the meds messing with my ovaries or my lime sized fibroid may be having a party on the hormones 🤣

How are you doing? All set for tomorrow? It's good your closer to your transfer. When was your last one, was it early spring? It's definitely the easiest part of IVF so I hope you can relax. I will send baby dust your way. If it was my misbehaving follicle that did the trick hope you get a misbehaving one too. Might be the baby asprin, none of my other FETs did I take asprin for that long. It's weird as my 3BB I didn't really have as good vibes as my 4CB. Maybe because it was an underdog and I loved the thought of a spring baby.

When you put it into context, the average young woman has around a 30% chance of pregnancy every time she has unprotected sex. So 33% may look low as per the chance of a 4Cb implanting successfully but it’s kind of not when you compare it to that, like 33 women out of 100 will get pregnant.

@SH998 my 4Cb embryo, online one of the lowest grades and lowest chance of a pregnancy and here I am today testing positive when my 3Bb last FET completely failed.

After half an hour from the above and on another camera it is getting darker, but still not convinced

@SH998 update - 7dpt and 13 days past trigger, so I tested this morning and looks the same to me, this is the reason maybe I should have just bought the first response as they always are more clearer, you actually see the slightest progression very clearly on those. In some YouTube videos strips aren’t the best. Other tests show a proper positive early and clearer. For me it looks like todays test is the same as the last few days. If this continues to plateau to test day then all I can do is tell the clinic it’s saying positive, even if I’m not 100% convinced. The paperwork they’ve given me says test on the 9th July. So that’s when I will try using the clear blue. I was told they would call earlier to check on my symptoms like last FET they still haven’t.

Getting excited about tomorrow.?

@SH998 aww thank you 😊....maybe tomorrow morning it will be clearer by the test getting darker. It will be 13 days past the trigger tomorrow. Then I can actually be like it's real. Just praying it's not etopic and it's a healthy pregnancy. If I am pregnant it's very early but it feels very different to last time. No cramping. The wind went within an hour that was uncomfortable. I'm in the office tomorrow. My failed FETS the eostrogen pills stopped my period. Actually I don't have all this tension building needing a release like you get with failed cycle where the eostrogen is suppressing menstruation. Maybe because im pregnant. Honestly this has been the least symptoms I've ever had.

Really hope this next FET is it for you. That it's successful and you can relax because as we both know IVF is not easy, it's a lot of endurance, keeping the faith and pushing through the heartache. So I have my fingers crossed for you. 🤞