What IVF dose and how many eggs did you get?

@thislittlebird I'm sorry you're having to consider cancelling your cycle. When you were on 150 gonal F your results were so good. I don't get why the clinic wouldn't focus on how your body responded last time and repeat the process than changing it to just what the research says. I'm 40, my last egg collection I was 39 and 11 months. I respond better to high doses than low doses but everyone is different. The clinic should look at that.

@thislittlebird so for you low dosage of gonal f produce more eggs but your clinic ignore this and keep increasing the dosage. Have you spoken to them and asked why? I was given low dosage and produced no blastocyst only an 8 cell, next cycle they were going to do the same low dosage i was like no you have to increase it, they did and I got 4 blastocyst. So you definitely should say this to the clinic.

@SH998 hope you're doing OK today. I know what you mean about hoping to be pregnant before your due date so that it takes some of the pain away. It's definitely hard. We see all these stories of women going through pregnancy loss then having rainbow babies so that's what we have to hold on to. 🙏

So I have my treatment consultation tomorrow to go over my meds should be quick, will be told to take eostrogen pills and then vaginal pessaries, take pregnancy test at home.My start date is when my period comes, so I expect it next Tuesday, then my first scan to see lining is cycle day 8 to 10 and then day 17 to 19 I have the transfer.

It feels very weird trying after a loss compared to before. Now it feels real like trying for an actual baby before it was just trying but future baby didnt feel real. I feel doubtful when I think about how we're told embryos are more likely to be abnormal than normal and they can't see from just looking under a microscope but have to be positive.

You have you're follow up next week so that's good.

@Lexi41 wow that's amazing. Thank you for sharing your story. It's definitely disheartening when you're told your embryo isn't doing great but this shows that embryos can improve and that it only takes one egg.

@SH998 so had my follow up phone consultation appointment. It went well. The nurse consultant was like they're positive in me getting pregnant again, they understand I've been through a tough time and they're here to support me. She went over my embryos said they were good that 3BB is slightly better and that will be put inside me and said its a 40% chance success which I read its a 42.3% of pregnancy and 50.3 chance of a live birth. She gave me the option between the natural vs medicated FET. As a clinic they recommend medicated. Natural cycles are more likely cancelled. I had a medicated before, the hormones were not great but i want the best results.

Next step is waiting for the prescription in the post, arranging a treatment phone consultation to go over the meds and go ahead with the FET cycle in April.

@SH998 **THS blood test is for thyroid activity not fibroids.

@SH998 At the stage of an embryo transfer, my understanding from a doctor is the most likely reason for the implantation failure isn't you or your womb, it's the actual embryo. Of course there are exceptions but the part of the point of the scans is checking your womb lining and blood tests for your hormones that the embryo will be welcomed, again making it unlikely that the failure is your body.

Good graded embryos get their grades superficially, a beauty contest, ìts like saying a symmetrical juicy looking apple will taste better or last longer than a less attractive apple. No one knows just by looking. But the chances are theyre more likely to implant if better graded. Embryos usually don't implant because chromosomally and or genetically there's something wrong so they arrest and they cant tell by just looking. So don't worry too much if they don't find a problem with you. Grade Bs have around a 50% chance of not implanting.

I've only ever had one blastocyst transfer and got pregnant. My prior transfer was just an 8 cell embryo that probably didn't make it to blastocyst and arrested inside me. Yeah it's hard when you have all your hopes up and then to get a negative. I've been there 5 times with IUI also. It's a tough process.

When you have an etopic pregnancy the NHS tell you to call the early pregnancy unit to make an appointment for scans and blood tests to start monitoring hcg and the embryo the moment you get the positive on a test to catch an etopic pregnancy early. Usually your first nhs scan is 12 weeks. I would still have the 6 week viability scan with the ivf clinic not that I would need to with the nhs scanning early.

So had my scan, nothings really changed, they saw the 3 lines in my womb lining which is good. I had a TSH blood test for fibroid will find out in the follow up on Thursday. They did my BMI which is annoying but I think it was OK. I've gained weight from stress but nothing too bad. The doc I saw was the one who did the collection and transfer. I bumped into one of the nurses who was present at the transfer, she was sweet.

Overall went OK. Hope the doc on Thursday gives the green light to proceed.

@SH998 Grade B's are really good. 😊 The majority of pregnancies are embryos that were graded as B. Grades A are classed as excellent but the percentage of embryos graded as such is a lot less. Some embryologist see Grades A as perfection so grade them rarely. So you should feel good that you have some good embabies there. Two of my embryos are classed as poor quality so I was a bit down about it but there's still a 33% chance of pregnancy, also grading is subjective, also a grade C may turn into a grade A in the womb.

If there is something stopping you from implanting I hope it's found. Although you have got pregnant before so that's really positive and implantation is the hardest part of conception, there's like a 50 to 70% chance of implantation not happening. Usually 70%.Yeah when you've been so careful it is so very annoying, we've just got to keep trying. 12th April isn't far. Will be about the time I start my meds for my transfer.

I feel partially excited that I'm trying again and could get pregnant with my rainbow baby but then of course I'm like I dont want to go through another 14 weeks pregnancy loss, technically I was pregnant for over 4 months that's how long the hcg was present. Makes me think the baby was strong but implantation was in the wrong place. I know I will be monitored by the nhs ASAP if I get pregnant. Still hard though. In the pit of my stomach but the thing that gets me through it is InfertilityTV said 69% of women who tried to conceive within 3 months of a miscarriage conceived and that was significantly higher than those who waited. His advice is try to conceive once you get your period and that's what I'm doing.

So yeah my scan should go OK. I'm going on the day I'm ovulating coincidentally. It's on Tuesday and then a consultation on Thursday. I would have thought if there were any problems I'd find out at the scan.

Will share how I get on.

@SH998 hopefully when you speak to the consultant they're helpful. General blood tests I had was only for TSH and STDs. The main expensive clinic they took loads of bloods through IUIs and one IVF to check my hormones that they showed I was ready for the treatment and i never got pregnant but my last ivf was with their cheaper sister clinic who did no blood tests and I got pregnant! 🤣My prior treatments I was careful of my diet didn't get pregnant whilst last time I accidently drank coffee seconds after the transfer and got pregnant. 🤣

When I had the transfer when I didn't get pregnant they had me take 1 asprin at night to help with implantation. Then the eostrgen pills 3 times a day and progesterone 3 times a day and that was unsuccessful but I think that was the embryo that was only a day 3 probably arrested soon after. So yeah hopefully there is something that can help you.

I would recommend you subscribe to Infertility TV, on YouTube, short simple fun videos on all of this and they look at studies and comparisons. They look at embryos, your womb, embryo gradings, diet, etc

My blastocyst were 4BB (got pregnant) then 3BB, 4CB and 4CB.

When I first started trying I was positive and believed I'd get pregnant and I didn't, usually the more you try the more disheartened you get. So I'm not really going to get hung up on my emotional state. I don't have the time. If I was 25 then yes can take a long emotional break.

I'm still with the sister clinic. They changed their terms recently 37 and under changed to 39 and under, just before my 40th birthday they let me have a round and that's when I got pregnant. Crazy. This fertility stuff isn't straight forward.

@SH998 wonder why your clinic are doing follow up blood tests. A follow up with your doctor will be interesting. When mine failed before I got pregnant they were like chromosomal issues with the embryo that's it. It's like there go to. Where you had two embryos if I was you I would push to know the gradings of all the embryos. Like what are they classing as good quality. If its the lowest 4CC then you had 30% to 40% chance per embro. Still pretty good and better than natural conception.

If all goes well I will have my transfer next cycle that works out like 6 weeks from the end of my miscarriage bleeding. So pretty soon. I feel bad and bit scared, I don't want to go through another etopic pregnancy it's life threatening and the recovery is long. But then I hear trying to conceive within 3 months of a miscarriage you're more likely to be successful and I don't want to wait around doing nothing.

A friend said I should wait to feel better but I feel like if I wait I'm never going to feel the version of better she's referring to. 3 months bleeding was a long time I came to terms with what happened during it. I remember the 3 weeks of being pregnant and it feeling great and I think that is overriding everything.

I don't know how much i believe in the emotional state stopping pregnancy. If its stress stopping ovulation yes I get that but if you're having regular cycles, not getting pregnant, people are like it must be your emotions or mind, that doesn't explain why women conceive under traumatic experiences or more are likely straight after a miscarriage than waiting. I think human fertility (unlike many other animals) isn't the best, so many factors involved so I'm not going to let how I feel stop me or wait until I feel "better".

So next Tuesday I'm hoping my scan goes well. Then another transfer it's my 3rd but my 2 blastocyst. Should be the 3BB.

@SH998 hey, how was the last week of your two week wait? Was is negative? If so have you spoken to your clinic?

So today my first period properly started. I called my clinic and have arrange a baseline scan on the 28th will have a follow up consultation on the 30th and if all good, a treatment consultation to talk meds and then a frozen transfer next cycle.

@SH998 I'm sorry. A negative when you're trying is always hard. They would say wait the whole 14 days to be sure and test then. I think youre 9 days now? It still could be positive. I do know how you feel, if it's not positive by 7 days then most women write it off. At least you have you embies or embabies. One of those could be the one. Can you try again soon? Like period after next?

So I haven't contacted the clinic yet because I plan on waiting to make sure my body is fully healed by waiting until my second cycle, so 2 periods from miscarriage to have the transfer. I'm waiting until my first period then I will call the clinic for a follow up scan. Yesterday i had wind pain in my left hip, nothing bad but that's the early symptom i had with my etopic pregnancy. So don't want to go too soon and they say there's a problem. I only stopped having pain around 3 weeks ago.

If my period goes back to normal time wise then I should be having a transfer mid April.

@SH998 I am so chuffed for you. You're in a really good position. It's just nice to have back up of other embryos, I found that really stopped me from being tense through the transfer and after.

Some of your results are above average like mature eggs the average is 90% will fertilise, all yours did and all 8 making it to day 3. You go 5 blasts, I said you should get 5 from your scans.

I'm surprised your clinic doesn't give you the grades. I feel like they're being paid a lot of money and should be transparent. What their definition of high quality might not be the same as their patients or another clinic. I get a written report with the gradings at each step. Mine rang me at day 3 telling me the grades. Saying all that yours are clearly 3CC or above. CC is the lowest grade they should be transferring embryos in to your body. I read someone say they had C grading and was told by their clinic it was high quality when I've read everywhere C is poor quality.

So I woke up everyday at 4am needing to pee but I did that every 2ww. 😄The way I knew I was pregnant was day 2 and 3 post transfer I had cramping, implantation cramping but not everyone gets that. I had no other symptoms. I had more symptoms when I was negative prior. Day 4 post transfer mine was negative so don't worry many women get those results and just use it now to see your trigger is out of your system. I got a positive on day 6 and it was darker day 7 and I was like I'm soooo pregnant. So youre not out the game at all. 14 days after is out the game. The only pregnancy test I rely on is First Response the cheapies strip early on are rubbish.

I've stopped bleeding! Quite poetic. All of the winter I bled 3 months and spring I stopped. I've seen signs of ovulation so that's good. My body did go through a lot. I honestly don't want to go through that again. 12 weeks is a long time.

I am feeling positive. Next month I should be having a transfer with my 3BB embryo. Just going to chill for now as my body gets back to normal with ovulating and periods.

@Sunshine2243 I think I read on the nhs website page on ivf what everyone else has already said, if youre older so 35 plus they would allow you to transfer 2 embryos as the idea is older women have more abnormal embryos so the likelihood is only one will be successful. Younger women are advised to transfer one at a time but I know someone who at 29 had ivf and transferred 2 and had twin boys.