SYMPTOMS, SYMPTOMS, READ ALL ABOUT IT!!! 2wwaiters chat and cuppas at the ready[grin]

Hi Mibbes

Thanks for your message.

Mo I didn't use anything like temps or opks - this is my first month of trying so it's all a bit new to me!

Guess I'll just have to hang on and be impatient!

Good luck to you too

Eleveld there have been several ladies complaning of late AF but BFN this month - me included (usually 30-35 day cycles and only started pre-AF spotting properly today on CD41 !). I wonder whether the stress/excitement of xmas has caused late ovulation and therefore longer than usual cycles ?... Did you use temps or opks to confirm when you ov'd ?
One the other hand you may just have to wait a little longer for the HcG to build up enough to be detected by HPT. Good luck

Hi

Any of you wise ladies had experience similar to this as it is driving me mad:

Am now 4 days late (am never late, very regular).
Have had kind of AF symptoms for about 10 days now - cramping sore lumpy boobs (I always get the sore boobs before AF but never get the cramps until first day of AF).

BUT have done two early response tests and both negative.

Is driving me mad. Wish AF would just arrive so I can get on with things. There is not the slightest sign of it - normally I have a couple of days of light spotting which should have happened about 5/6 days ago.

I'm assuming I'm definitely not pregnant (because of the negative tests) and AF is just being psychologically delayed?

Please help!

Thanks

Ha ha fairy no I didn't want to scare him ! I must have similar thermometer to you as it also beeps 10 times - glad he knows am temping now so can beep away without having to kick him out of bed first so I can beep in secret . Spotting is getting more obvious now so expecting AF any day - did a last ditch HPT and no surprise it was BFN. I think I'll join Bucky and Fairy on the postivity train - this will be my month - no reason why not . Just wish she'd come properly so I can get on with it !
You poor ladies from the South of England - move up here to Scotland - you'd be able to afford castles !

ohhh bgger twinkle - so sorry it is a BFN for you . Stick with bucky's* positivity and I am sure it will be your month. Hell, that's what I dream every month

P&M and hattyellow - i know how you feel about house prices. DH and and I are both professionals with (by most standards) good salaries, but by virtue of our "odd" jobs, we are tied to central London. We have a nice, but very tiny, flat and I panic about how a baby will fit it!! It's four flights of stairs to the top (no lift), no garden and the (ahem!)"spare" room is a cupboard. We don't own a car any more! Eek!

shreksmissus - I wondered where you had got to

bucky - ::::::::::::::::::

see all those ::::::?! that is positive mental vibes going your way, my girl!!

picknmix - it's been ages since we chatted!

hello to everyone else o7mtw, mibbes, it if good to be back

Did you tell him that some women do temp that way??
I am sure someone on here said they did cos it was quieter than orally. Mine beeps ten times when it has recorded the temp. If I had wanted to keep my temping from DH, I guess it would be better to muffle the beeps

That has just made me realise that that could be exactly why there was no concieving in fairy towers this month.
It has been a rather stressful period. Although I don't show my stress outwardly, (well, not much anyway ) it has always affected my insides. I missed 2 periods when I was a teenager cos of exam stress and never realised I was stressed in the slightest.
That is a much better straw to grasp at thanks mibbes

Have just put my temps into FF and it reckons I am 10dpo which means I am out as defo no bd'ing going on around then - had a very quiet start to 2008 on the bd front as I (stupidly) thought I must have ov'd by then - sod's law I have my latest ov ever . Oh well the FF site is easier and more detailed than I expected so looking forward to charting a full cycle !
Have just explained to dp that will be temping next cycle and he just looked at me a little shocked as said "where do you put the thermometer !" Oh how I laughed !

Fairy oops meant to say sorry TEW got you . It has been a tough week for you

PicknMix I used the expensive opks and had no luck with them - may try the cheapies as at least if they are rubbish I won't have wasted as much money . Didn't get a +ve with the CB opks. My cycle is not usually this long - this is by far the longest in past 12 months. Will test again tomorrow if no AF but had some spotting so suspect she is on her way...
Hatty I was doing exactly the same search the other day . I had BFN on CD37.
Hi Fairy, it is possible you didn't hatch if things felt different - perhaps an anovulatory cycle. Are you charting, I reckon this is the best way to try to track ov - I plan to chart next cycle as am confused about what is going in (or not as the case may be). The only thing I have heard that could extend luteal phase is agnus castus but this should be taken with care as have heard mixed reports on MN. 11 days could be long enough, average tends to be 12-14. I think 10 or less is too short but am no expert.

Well, thats me back to the old drawing board again was going to ask how you were doing CB hattyyellow but see you are still waiting for TEW to turn up It's just so poo to get the BFN and no AF.

Have been feeling V sorry for myself today and yesterday, when I got my BFN. I was soo sure that this was gonna be my month. And am now all upset cos any potential LO's B'Days will be getting closer and closer to christmas. DH has been informed he is getting nowhere near me in March or April.
But feeling a bit better tonight. I have now decided that there was no egg this month. The previous 2 months I have felt quite sore ov pains but nothing last month at all. So we did everything right but I just don't think it would have worked anyway.
Is that likely? Or am I grasping at staws to make myself feel beter?
Also, my LP is only 11 days, is that long enough? How can I make it longer?

Hatty sorry to hear that test was bfn this morning - tis sooo annoying when af goes awol. Although there are some incredible stories about women who get bfp's well after their af is well and truely late. But I will not go on about those as it might not be helpful for you.

I just went for the cheapest 'bundle' of opk's from a website called access diagnostics see here - I've never used the site before but have heard good things about them from other mnetters. Will let you know when they arrive if you want? I figured that I'd start off with the cheapies and see how they work. My cycle is incredibly irratic so I will need to use A LOT of opk's on the hunt for my ov! If the next month is a bfn then may go up to a more expensive brand. Can't see the point in spending £20+ for just 7 sticks when I know I'll prob need more than that in one cycle. I'll let you know how I get on though!

Hiya P&M sorry to hear about your househunting woes - we are also out of London and up in the North but prices still ridiculous, we are renting a place that's much nicer than anything we could ever afford to buy..but feel at some point we should try and get on ladder again..

Can I ask you about your exciting order? What sort of ovulation tests did you go for? Stood in Boots at the station last night, panicking as the clock ticked towards my train time and confused as to which ovulation tests to buy..ended up leaving empty handed and resolving to buy online so any advice welcomed!

AF just gone awol..keeps feeling like it's going to come and then stopping but tesco hpt was negative this morning..

Have just indulged myself in 5 minutes googling "what's the latest you can get a positive HPT" but it does seem much more likely that AF late due to stress etc than a late pregnancy...

Thanks for your positive thoughts on my house hunting woes!! Its beginning to look like a lost cause - apparently you need to be a Very Good Earner to live on the south coast. Have lived here all my life and am at the price of houses (crikey - only 29 and I sound like my mum!!). We're only going to be renting but even then you need a big salary - found a studio flat going for £795 today.... thats ridiculous!!

Anyway, enough of the moaning, have just been on Access Diagnostics and ordered myself a new thermometer (the battery on mine has gone), 20 opk's and 10 hpt's. Gosh. Maybe thats why I can't afford a house !! Am approaching this month with military precision - as Bucky says, this could be the month, why the hell not!!

(and yes, Bucky, of course baked beans count!!!)

Hatty where do you think your af has disappeared to?? Have you done a test?

Mibbes - are your cycles usually pretty regular? I know you said 35 is about normal but have they ever gone on for this long? Mine are all over the place but I have PCOS so [apparently] thats 'normal' for me.

MrsEi am hoping your good wishes and previous good luck with house moving rubs off on me!

Hi to everyone else!

Hi all, no news from me...emerged from under the coats in the old waiting room expecting to find AF waiting there with her arms crossed, but no...no AF/ no BFP...was hoping AF would at least come today to keep me at a regular cycle but no....

Jolly Bear, really hope your scan is okay..will be sending huge good luck/all is well vibes...

Waving to everyone else...ps Bucky my food diary would be awful...far too much tea and coffee and carbs..

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OK, I feel a renewed positivity now.... This could be the month Well you never bloody know do you, anything is possible!

PicknMix do baked beans count as veg? The food diary didn't get any better.... I thought about lying but then I wondered what that would actually achieve when its supposed to help me . I've got till next Wednesday to eat something nutritious though!

I truly can't believe I am going to ask this but...where are the posts about descaling kettles? Mine mings and I would like the helpful tips and tricks .

dg please stay I will miss you too much if you leave. I kind of went into mourning at the thought the other day.... STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY.

Just popping in quickly to say "hi" - I've got people coming to stay shortly so won't be about much. Hope you all have a great weekend.

If I'm not about before, lots of luck with your scan JB

GG I have joined it , although being due at the end of the month means I'm going to spend the whole time playing catch-up with everyone (not that I'm complaining, I'm so bloody grateful!).

Gossip alert! Just congratulated theowlwhowasafraidofthedark on the BFP but got PCOS thread, she got a BFP on CD50 after a BFN on CD33...how amazing is that?! Even more hope for all those long cycle ladies wondering where on earth AF could be!

JB I used opks this cycle but gave up after cd25 assuming they either didn't work or not ov'ing Now that cycle is so long I suspect I should've kept using them - but then they are pricey and frustrated me - maybe I will buckle and try again though

yeah...go on... scram Digital we don't want no PG ladies on this 'ere thread. Only procreational BD-ers allowed in this manor.

JOKE!!! Don't you dare go anywhere, DG! How will we learn anything if you go?! Have you joined the due in September ante-natal thread?

Thanks picknmix, glasto and mibbes You are all v sweet. I do feel better having told people that understand

glasto Glad to hear that you've got extra BD'ing planned!

picknmix I hope you get a house sorted out. It is horribly stressful. MrsEi25 said she get preganant during her last house move, so hope the same is true for you.

mibbes This long cycle thing is frustrating isn't it?! Are you going to use OPKs next cycle?

hello girls! Just popping in to get this on my 'threads I'm on' list, but I'll understand if you tell me to piss off

JB the very best of luck for your scan, I hope all is well and you can resume ttc with gusto come March.

bucky glad you've resurfaced from under your pile of work. And really pleased to hear you're going to try reflexology. Can only be a Good Thing.

Nothing much to report here, other than I have discovered post-orgasm cramps ! Gotta be as painful as labour contractions and for about five mins I genuinely thought the pg was a goner, I think the digibean does not approve of 'recreational sex' . Keeping my fingers (and now legs) crossed that I haven't upset it too much.