SYMPTOMS, SYMPTOMS, READ ALL ABOUT IT!!! 2wwaiters chat and cuppas at the ready[grin]

ps Shazza!!! So pleased to see you are doing well and past twelve weeks! Congratulations again xx

Yipppeeeeeeeeeeee 07mtw I am so excited for you! Congratulations - what wonderful news to start the week!

twinkling if i whisper that your symptoms sound great is that okay? The milky boobs do sound positive...everything crossed..

GG only caught up with end of posts but hope you okay and can sort things out ((((((GG)))))

No news from me...my mum was great during our stay and took DD's out several mornings in a row giving us a lie in and more BDing time than we've had for months!!

DH convinced she did it deliberately to try and give us some time together..she had 5 of us and is always going on about having more grandchildren!

Thanks for all help about my Ov sticks idiocy...used the second test pack and found it worked fine so I think the first reader was faulty..haven't had a chance to tests for a few days so trying again today...

tmi question dh noticed lotiony cm yesterday, am i right in thinking that lotiony cm is pre-fertile? had lots yesterday morning on day 16, which would tie in with thinking I ovulate more like day 18-20...so we should be doing it loads still shouldn't we?

Oh my god, I am so so happy for 07MTW and the BFP!!!! That is absolutely briliant news . Champagne all round (even if it is 10am on a Monday morning !)

Morning ladies

Not sure if any of you remeber me.

But had to pop in to congratulate my old cycle buddy MTW Yaaaaahhhhh So pleased for you

Best of luck to the rest of you on here aswell

Shazza xx 14+1

Yeah MTW But I have to agree with mrsei about being 99% happy for you and that 1%
But really really hope it is a sticker.

I am being very foolish ladies.
I am convincing myself that I am pregnant.
I have had absolutely no EWCM, where I norm have quite a lot. My cervix has been in pretty much the same position since I checked it on CD8. And tonight I had a sensation in my boobs like the milk coming in, so tried to see if there was any there and got dark creamy stuff.
My tummy also feels quite tight.

I should be BD with DH cos I norm ov on day 17 but I ran out of opks, with no +ves in the past 4 days ( I only had 4 left).
So I am convincing myself that I did actually ov on CD8 (my temps did rise for 3 days after) and that DH and I have managed to do the deed, even though he did not..ahem,..peak that day

I am being very silly aren't I?
I will not test tommorrow.
It is all prob just cos of the AB's for the UTI, isn't it. That will be why the lack of EWCM? The boobs thing means nothing, it happens to lots of women for months after stopping? Not sure about the cervix not moving? And the sore tummy could be ov pains but mild?
See, I am sensible afterall.

Thanks for the congrats. I'm still numb

Bucky I hope you get a BFP too cycle buddy then we can hop over to the ante-natel threads together

Woohooo 07MTW congratulations. . . Heres to no symptoms being added to the symptom list.

Bucky - we got a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel - cute but a nightmare! He is 5 months now.

Scully, 1st day of last period 17th Jan so thought a few would not hurt.. . and a few more later . . GUILT Feeling really guilty now as what if egg hatched and was implanting and I have ruined it all. I am thinking that lots of people get pregnant did not know they were and everything is fine. I don't normally drink so I suppose I am not used to it. Before I had my miscarriage in Dec I had seen a doctor and was really worried as had a girls night out and had eaten a small amount of stilton and she thought I was mad so that is a bit reassuring. Me crazy - Never

Hi to everyone else - have you all got any snow? we not had any

MTW what fabulous news !! Congratulations , throwing lots of sticky dust your way
Ha ha see, you are yet another 'No-symptoms BFPer' !!! I a so hoping for no symptoms whatsoever this cycle

07MTW Yeeha for my cycle buddy!!! Big congratulations. I am so proud... I have never had a cycle buddy with a BFP before!!! I am sure that is third time lucky and this bean will stick around! I also hope we are twin cycle buddies so I can get a BFP too!!! I am so happy for you.

OMIGOODNESS MTW07!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biggest congrats from PnM Land!!!!

GG I am so sorry for you it must be hell. DH and I have not been getting on very well just lately and it's mainly due to the pressure of TTC. Hope you got your head a little stright yesterday and the next talks with your DH work out postively for you.

mibbes In answer to your question...because I've never felt less PG in my life, I can't even make any symptoms up.

And then this morning BFP

I can't believe it. My Persona stick had two lines and after Pistachio's revelation about that possibly meaning bfp I just had to test. (sorry Jollybear I couldn't resist!) I'm only CD21 and 11 dpo so is very early days and after my 2 chemical PG's I'm just trying to be rational as I'm filled with fear of it happening again.

There is no way I am ready to graduate but I had to tell someone and I won't tell anyone in RL for a while yet.

DH is happy but cautious, lets hope this is a sticky one.

Poor you GG, hope you had some nice 'me' time yesterday and the you and dh get to have another more productive discussion today
Sounds like he is feeling under pressure at work and at home, and he's going to deal with it by ignoring the home stuff for now. Is having a weekend break an option, going somewhere where you can both relax a bit, and talk, an option?
Is it snowing over there? Raining here today, but given our drought, we don't mind. Had our new watertank delivered yesterday but it's not plumbed in yet so isn't collecting any of this lovely water yet
How's the hangover Coolcat? I remember having such a big Friday night when I was pregnant with dd1, but had no idea that I was Felt very guilty about that when I realised.

Everyone goes quiet at the weekends Fairy. I think we all use up our employer's time rather than our own to surf MN!!

Hey Coolcat glad your feeling better . Finn is still a little imp. He is such a sweetie, but he is too clever for his own good. He has learnt this way of cocking his head and putting his paw on your lap when he wants a hug that is irresistable. . My training lady says that he must work for his hugs, like do something....sit, down etc etc. But he is just sooooo lovely... I hope I am not as crap a parent to a baby as I am to the Finn dog! I didn't know you had a puppy, what breed is it and when did you get it?

Oh oh, should drop in a bit about symptoms to make my post on topic. Well, I am what about 2 or 3 dpo now? Hmm will have to check in the waiting room to see. And....um...no symptoms, although my back is killing me. I think I am turning into an old grandma now I do no exercise whatsoever...

Where is everybody today??
Watching the lovely snow?

Oh dear GG I have not said anything yet fr fear I might say something I regret. Luckily bucky has said pretty much what I would have.
I thikn big discussions are ahead and I don't envy you them, they are poo. By that I mean men, to talk to, they are poo
I was going to say perhaps he is frightemed that the problem is his and just won't face up to finding out either way, but I think it runs much deeper than that. Perhaps the agreement you made, to move away is what it frightening him. Horrible as it sounds, the longer there is no LO the longer he can live his life as it is.
My DH was rotten when DD came along. He wouldn't do night feeds or really anything in teh night without great big complaints taht he had to work. It was all V upsetting for me. Esp as I was BF and all he would say was to just feed her, but I had blocked duct, cracked nips and then mastitis. Feeding her was not always an option!!
I digress. The point is that he was frightened of the change. His brother had frightened the life out of him with stories of never getting any sleep for months on end, DH had new job so he figured if he just said no, I have to work, he wouldn't have to do it. Turned out our DD was a little marvel and not the scary creature DH had feared and that BIL and SIL were crazy people who only slept every other day to let the other sleep (one stayed awake ALL night to make sure the baby was ok, er durr!!)
The point, I am awful at advice aren't I is that his fear of fatherhood made him a horror to live with and once we got to the root of the problem I was able to calm him and get beyond it.
So, once you have got to the root f your DH's problem, I am sure you will be albelt o mve on.
Its been 13 months for you guys now though, isn't it? That is a long time to go through this. 7 months is bad enough for me
And defo AF arrival is never a good time for at least 2-3 days.

My black eye is worse!! I feel so paranoid that people can see it but are saying nothing and thinking the worst of my DH!!
Although I met my neighbour and she said she hadn't noticed. Nothing to do with the new hat I bought or my fringe practically coverng I suppose

And, no BD for us last night with a wry DH had fallen asleep by the time I got upstairs how do they do it? Fall alseep as soon as their heads hit the pillow? I can't, really wish I could though.
Made a date for this afternoon though

sorry for the mega post!!

Hi Ladies
coolkat really bad with hangover.

Been really silly, about to be on the 2ww and went out for a 'few' drinks with friends which turned into a 'few' more.....

To early for any symptoms but am half way through cycle and have been baby dancing so who knows (if only it was this easy!)

Not much else happening here feel a lot better about the m/c now and just hoping for another BFP

GG it sounds like you are having a rough time - Direct him ere we'll sort him! No seriously you must be feeling it - thinking of you. X

I hope DG and bean are ok, it must be horrible being out there trying to have a good time.

Hope your feeling better Bucky? How is Finn? Our pup getting better still unsure though, DD loves him.

Hi to everyone else, hoping for lots of BD and BFP's.

you've said everything I've been thinking bucky - thank you for listening . I do need GG Time today and I'll mull things over while doing what i want (shopping, museums - benefit of being in London ). I thought we were so happy, but The Job has got in the way and will continue to. The TTC arguments are a symptom, but hits me where it hurts most.

You are right, what if we did have DC's? He'd be saying "no, I can't do [insert task] because I'm too busy". TTC is the start and if I don't feel supported at this stage.... We made a pact that when we had DC's we'd move back to where I'm from, so we'd have family support, but he has lately changed his mind, I know, and wants to stay in London

Now ladies - enough of my moaning and "oh woe is me!", let's hear about all those symptoms . How is everyone today - any snow?

GG this ttc lark is such a stress. Do you have anywhere you can escape to, to get some time to yourself. You definitely need some GG-time (like Hammertime except cooler ). I won't comment on your DH's behaviour because this time last month I was ready to move out of my house because of my DPs behaviour and I think men can be wrong wrong wrong alot of the time. They really do think in a completely different way to us. An often I think they are really selfish.

We can guess at why he is being this way until we are blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is he needs to reassess his priorities. When you have DCs are you going to be effectively a single parent whilst he goes to work all day every day and then some??? OOOhhh I said wasn't going to get started , I better shut up as this is not helping you and besides whatever I might say you love your DH so I am sure you don't want me bitching about his behaviour, that's for you to do! Just know that I for one are quite happy for you to have a moan till the cows come home. If you need anything just call...

thank you for listening mibbes and apologies to everyone for the hijack . The home sperm test was politely (ahem!) "declined". DH and I really need to talk again, but I want to think clearly before I have another stab. My attempt this morning at trying to explain how I feel ended with him refusing to talk to me or listen. I need his support and I am not getting it at all . Today was the first time I cried about it in front of him (I'm usually very strong) and only after I had said what i wanted to, yet he yelled that he was under too much pressure at work - end of.

I went on facebook 5 mins ago. My ExP (a good friend) had posted "EX has exciting news" and a picture of a scan - baby clearly visable. I'm embarrassed to say I felt ill .

GG you poor love, so sorry AF arrived and especially sorry about your disgareement with DH . It is worth remembering that at this time of month problems can seem massivley inflated as you are upset that not PG and AF makes you feel crap anyway. However, I appreciate that these are serious issues - have you sat DH down and rationally explained how you feel ? Does he fully understand that you feel second best to his work and that this is now causing you to question your relationship ? Maybe this would give him the jolt he needs to react ? Did you suggest home sperm test ? Not sure any of this makes sense or helps atall but I just wanted to let you know that my heart goes out to you - we're here to listen and help if we can {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}

London - sorry Af got you

Bucky - are you feeling better this morning?

twinkling - what a nasty experience you had, but I am really glad you are ok now and hope the bruises are healing

picknmix - 3 times in 2 days - you go girl . And you managed it with a house move and everything else!

AF got me . It started this morning, although I had guessed yesterday. Another textbook 28/29 day cycle for me, like all the others and still nothing. I was so upset this morning. I sobbed my heart out when I saw the blood, but deep down I knew anyway it wasn't my month. Again.

I am in an internet cafe, partly because our internet was playing up and I wanted to post here and partly because I wanted out the house. DH and I had a huge argument about me being upset about AF and him refusing to go to the clinic to get the sperm test. He told me that he won't go this week or next. I asked him if he could please, please go for us, for me. He has had the referral for the clinic since 15th December . He cancelled our holiday in October for work, and now he's putting me/us/our family second again . I have always supported him even when he worked abroad for six months in our first year married. I tried to explain how I feel, how I can't do anything until he goes for the test, but he refuses to speak to me. This is getting too stressful and I am questioning our whole relationship. I feel like I am crumbling

London sorry she got you.
PicknMix impressive bd'ing, go girl !
MTW why are you so convinced not PG this month ? Sorry you are so down, but there is still a fighting chance for you. Remember there have been loads of ladies on this thread with no symtpoms atall then BFP...you never know

Picknmix Well done with the 3x in 2 days very impressive. When is it you are actually moving? I do hope it's a case of new home new baby

TF Hope you caught your DH in time last night

London Sorry you think AF is on her way

I'm CD20 and 10 dpo. I just know I'm not PG again this month I must pull myself together as feeling very down about it already and I don't even know for sure yet.

Picknmix, 3 times in 2 days, that is impressive
dd2 is getting better, thx, have had to keep her inside for yesterday and today though, to keep the glue and wound vaguely clean. I am still getting the occassional 'ow' but I think she is following in the drama queen style of dd1
Have your glasses turned up MrsEi? Can you claim it on contents insurance?
How is everyone else?