IVFers thread

Hi

Great that it's all starting to happen for quite a few of us.

The lining was looking nice and thick so I have another scan on weds and then should start injecting with a view to ET a week on Monday (yikes!)

Does anyone know how you're supposed to take it easy and avoid lifting if you have a 2 year old?!?

Hi all, how are you all doing?

I had my drugs delivered today by a rather soggy courier guy. All seems rather real now, downregging on the pill isn't nearly as invasive and noticable as injecting buserelin daily. Should have baseline scan next Thurs, start stimming Friday.

PK - how's your uterus lining coming along? Am always staggered that they can tell so much from a grainy monochrome screen.

Coggy - I'm a little behind you I think as I now have confirmed dates of EC on 8 Feb, a little later than I thought before. Can't imagine getting that far, the consultant wasn't that optimistic about my ovaries. They have put me on a massive dose of FSH - drug bill for Puregon alone is about £2500.

Soosy - how did your scan go?

Hope you all have lovely weekends in the rain - hope nobody floods

Hi all
Hope clinic appointments go well and lining/follies growing well?

Coggy - what are you up to?

Still downregging here and symptoms hitting me hard and I havent even started sniffing yet. Just taking progesterone pills then sniffing on sunday. Worst bit for me is just not being able to get to sleep even though Im shattered. The switch in my brain seems to go a bit astray during down regging. So makes me even more grumpy! Acne doesnt help the morale levels either! But all things considered (incl v naughty 2.5 DD) am keeping my chin up.

Take care.

soosy - I hope that your scan goes well today.
X

I tried accupunture for quite a long time to balance myself after having my DS and ttc again. Thought I could probably do with quitre a lot of emotional balance as well as my poor old body not knowing what was going on!!!

I bruised quite badly once or twice so I didn't always find it as relaxing as it should be cos I was worried for my poor accupunturist who had to keep apologising!!!
I bruise even by looking at the corner of a table!!!!!

I also used to always get a numb tongue.....is that normal....or just plain wierd??!!!! LOL!

That's fab pk, I am sure it'll happen. Do you get left when the needles are in, we just chat. Good luck at the clinic tomorrow. Hope all goes well.

Just before I got pg with DS, I had this dream that there was a baby in the house, which was crying, but i couldn't find it.

D7, 4 injections in scan tomorrow to see how those follicles are coming along.

Hope you are both well Sticki and Coggy.

Night night.

No Sticki, I pmsl too, inspired!

I did however meet him before the eventful night that was full labour and then emergency c section, and we got on really well, have seen him since as I was traumatised by the Nurses at my doctor's surgery doing my smear tests, so he does them for me privately, that sounds worse i'd better stop. Another weird thing; his houseman was the doctor that did the EC and ET that resulted in DS. This is all becoming a bit of the twilight zone, or am I showing my age?

How is all the downregging, do you downreg on the day one? When I used to Downreg it used to be D21 or in my case D23, I don't think my cycles were ever as planned as yours seem to be.

Off to watch Holby city, God you'd think I'd have had enough of hospitals.......

Oooh noooo! Have just re-read my comment about 'better view this time' and thought about how that comes across. Im really really sorry soosy I hope you are not offended.... oops! my choice of words wasnt good. Really didnt mean to be rude.

I wish I could blame the drugs for my sense of humour!

Sorry sorry sorry!
(Note to self - must preview messages before posting)

Or how about....."Watching EWCM is useless, temping is the spawn of the devil!"

Far more interesting than...."The cold man shivered at the thought of his bird flying free"!!!

PMSL at the doctor's better view this time!
Classic!

How is it all going out there? Looks like you are all slightly ahead of us. Hope all the side effects arent too bad this cycle?
Im in the quiet bit of downregging so no more clinic visits until late Jan/early feb. So, perhaps I'll just miss out on the fancy dress meetings in the waiting room with PK? (Maybe we should have a code like they do in bad spy movies......'the sun is shining in moscow' etc?)

Just psml at you sitting in wagamamas next to Dr who has helped deliver your DS. Perhaps a slightly better view this time around! Defo a sign.

PK and Sticki I just have this uncontrollable urge to clean and get organised just before af, its almost like my body knows I will be useless for a day or two! My mum was the same. PMSL, thinking of everyone in the waiting room at UCH dressed as Cold War spies! Don't know what's funnier that, or thinking of you two trying to guess who the other one is! Furled umbrella just means done up, I have spent my youth watching too many thrillers!!

EWCM, when we started trying people didn't write books about stuff like that. Infact it was v difficult to get any info at all and then we discovered v quickly, that like you PK it wouldn't have mattered if I had or hadn't!

Oh coggy, so you know Windsor quite well, perhaps I can pick your brains about the best areas, as it looks like we are going to give up London, before it gives up us! I can always come back to London for more IVF if needs be (God I hope not, really am v tired of all this.)

Had scan today D3 and started FSH injections, back on Friday to see how those follicles are growing.

One bit of weirdness though, When we were in Windsor we bumped into the Doctor (and his family) who delivered my DS and sat next to him for our lunch in Wagamama,is this a sign?........

It's all such a pain in the backside isn't it Sticki?
I've been looking at people with children over the past couple of days and thinking you lucky sods....most of you wouldn't even know what EWCM was!!!!!!

...Not the best thing to be thinking as you wander around Sainsburys I can tell you!!!!!

Soosy...Windsor is lovely. We try to go there a couple of times a year. Used to have an old great-aunt who lived there and went quite often.

Off to watch Casulty!

Coggy - great you have started ..... roll on a positive result.

Impressed that you defrost the freezer and clean when you have pmt Soosy! I just want to lie on the sofa and eat choc (in between shouting at people). Hope AF turned up in order for you to get an appointment.

Pk - not sure about FET then fresh. But I wouldnt have thought you have to wait v long if you dont want to. I have found that although the clinic have 'rules' about having a break etc they dont seem to be set in stone and Ive been able to start new cycles quicker in the past. (Im very impatient!)

I start downregging tomorrow - primolut then the nasal spray next week. I know the lack of humour and other tasty symptoms will appear soon. Joy!

I got so cross yesterday that we have to do all this to get pg - for even the possibility of the amazing happening and we actually get a very elusive bfp. Everyone else I know seems to be able to get pg easy as pie with none of the drugs, cost, symptoms, worry etc. I cant help compare myself (silly I know, I should know better by now) with the other normal women who manage easily and just end up feeling crappy. But feeling fairly positive about the treatment - at least we are counting down to EC around 12 Feb and each appointment, tablet, spray or injection is constructive.

Hi pk I think you just have to have one period between having treatment, but you are not going to need it! Plus you may have more that one FET from your bumper crop! I think you and sticki should wear red roses in your lapel and carry furled umbrellas, you could of course speak in really bad eastern european accents.

Coggy, Glad to hear you have started too, you feel like something really positive is happening.

I have my first scan on Monday and if everything ok I start my FSH injections. Hooray, feeling much better since af arrived properly today, was a bit of an emotional wreck yesterday all stressed about treatment.

Had a lovely day wandering in Windsor Great Park, we are thinking of maybe moving to there.

Hope everyone else had a good day. Bath time for DS.

LOL at you two Sticki and PK...you'll have to wear little MN identifying badges if you ever go to the clinic on the same day!!

Soosy...hope you are feeling a little better today. X

Onlyaphase....looks like you and me will be very similar times. My EC is due on the 4th Feb although that is rather dependant on my final scan on the 1st...but if all goes to plan...that's the date!

Took my first progeserone pill this morning so now it's really really happening!!!
HURRAH!

Onlyaphase I know what you mean about the lack of humour, but it is disgusting the amount they charge for the drugs esp when you find out hospitals do deals with certain suppliers and your drug isn't one of those then you pay a huge amount. My drug bill this time was about £650 but the time before last it was over £900 as I was using a different brand of FSH.

Sorry about my little pre af rant, just cross about NHS and what they will and won't treat.

Downregging on the pill sounds rather nice, i can't believe you have your dates already, my treatments always seem to be in the lap of the gods and it's not until about five days before EC do I have any idea when its going to be! Much easier for child care your way.

Off to defrost freezer.... night night.

Soosy, good news about the pen for injections. Last time around I had this auto injector kit - loaded everything into the pen, pressed a button and the needle shot out into you all by itself - so no need to actually jab a needle into yourself. This time round things have moved on apparently (!) and we will be using the pen thing with the dial on it, but it does mean sticking a needle into yourself. DH can do that, gives him something to do.

Good luck with getting an appt Soosy - I hate it when little things like that are so difficult.

I have my dates now I think - EC on 6th Feb, ET on 8th. I had to pay the treatement and drugs costs today and phoned up DH to tell him how much I was paying, and he said that we didn't need to go ahead! I think he was joking, but he really should have learnt from last time that I Have No Sense Of Humour when downregging. Not even a little bit. Still, I am much better downregging on the pill than using Buserelin, haven't felt any urges to stab anyone yet.

sorry pk with a pen you have a very fine needle and all the drug is in the pen you just dial the dose, prime the pen, jab it in and push the end, it's all really quick, and you get much smaller bruises!

Sticki Glad to hear you have a general for GIFT. I sometimes wonder whether a general would be better for IVF as you would be totally relaxed

Af due tomorrow and I think on its way, I have been vile to DS this eve, he has been playing me up but instead of distracting him, which i know i should do, I just said no way too much (feel very guilty). and to top it all I have started defrosting the freezer, the sort of thing I only do just before my period. Cleaning the house is another favourite too.

Friday a Bad day for af to start as I have to ring the hospital and try and arrange an appointment for the same day as I will have to start injecting on day 3 (sun). Always impossible to get appointment same day, although in the old days someone would always see you.

PK - was at clinic today (Thursday) so we wouldnt have bumped into eachother.

Am now going through protocol and diary trying to work out dates and childcare etc. I havent asked clinic about bringing DD to appointments so I cant help on that one. In my experience you can be there a while at transfers because there is always some faff about your bladder being too full/not full enough/things in the wrong place! etc. However, at the weekends the clinic is much more relaxed.

Luckily with GIFT you dont have the transfer on a different day but DH will have to take time off as I will be a bit more sore than usual apparently and have to have a general anaesthetic.

Soosy - glad you have a fab acupuncturist. I love my sessions and find it makes a huge difference to how I feel. It is meant to make a positive impact on success too so Im hopeful but hasnt work magic so far! (Hope this is your cycle)I find it really interesting talking to my acup woman as she sees so many women doing treatment etc she has lots of interesting experience.

PK childcare, can't dh stay outside the treatment room with ds? Find out from the hospital if it is possible. What about a weekend with the grandparents? They need not know why.

Sticki glad to hear that you are on your way, waiting is definitely the worst part, the waiting before and afterwards I don't really mind the middle bit at least you feel like you are doing something.

The first injection is the worst isn't it I always give myself a bruise, then I get better at it. Had a pen last time and this which is a revelation. First time doing icsi I had powder & water to mix with big needles and then swapping them over god what a palaver. Still have bigger needles for cetrotide, but I do 6 or 7 of those.

I hopefully will start injecting next week, if everything goes to plan. Have a fabulous acupuncturist, who has banished my cough, which was the tail end of my cold. So I am hoping she will work similar magic during my cycle and after.

Night night x