IVFers thread

Soosy - I've rented for the last year and know what you mean about the hassle of renting and finding somewhere. We have 2 big dogs and 2 cats and amazingly, we aren't every landlords dream tenant! But, the timing has worked for us as we have been out of the housing market for a year but haven't lost anything as the market has been steady or dropping around here. And the house we are moving too is my father's house (he is moving into a grandad flat in the granary-type building next door) so we don't have the hassle of viewings and completions to deal with thank goodness.

Interesting about your positive results in the spring Soosy - all the more interesting as you've had a fair amount of treatment, so it probably just isn't a fluke result. Good luck to us all anyway

NMM - good though about making the houseboat a holiday for DD. On the positive side I think I will have more time to play with her and focus on her, it is the space I am worried about but am sure I will find parks for her to run around in. Not too near the water either!

What sort of area are you looking in? N S E or W of London? How far out?

LOL Nomore! I wish I had a houseboat and a place up north! We are moving although where is a mystery at the moment as we have sold our house but cannot find anything decent to buy. everyone says we should rent and financially I agree, but as I will be the person doing all this while my DH sits at work I don't really want to move more than I have to!! We have to move beginning July (after DS finishes school year.) We are not moving as far as OAP, but it is out of London, so viewings are a bit of a trial!

Oh poo - it's OAP on the houseboat isn't it? Sorry!!

(((bambi))) Hope you're wrong
OAP I'm downregging from 23/4 with nasal spray - EC/ET last week of May (I hope) so almost with you
soosy can you make the houseboat a 'holiday' for DD?

I am with you on spring cycles OAP. I have been pg twice in April and had a chemical pg in June. I have no dates for the FET as I am having a natural cycle, no downregging, so it will be the end of next week or monday the following week.

No what you mean about transferring clinics, and the extra expense and as I am now sidling up to my 39th birthday I don't really want to waste time having loads of tests when I should really just get on with it!

TBH most consultants are useless when it comes to being nice to people. I have a really nice consultant, who last time asked if i was ok as he was worried about the emotional effect all this treatment was having on me. So I should take it that your consultant is doing the same in a rather rubbish way!!!

Bambi I hope you are feeling better today. Honestly don't count your chickens. DS is the result of our 10th attempt and I cannot tell how shocked I was to have a +ive result on the pg test with him! I have had five attempts since so I know where you are coming from. Are you likely to have another attempt. I agree once you have had one child people think you should be grateful (I hate that word), but I do have a couple of friends who really want me to have another, so I do feel blessed. I always feel that telling friends is difficult as often they want to know everything or nothing. I think it is a subject like cancer, nobody knows quite how to react, so don't think your friends are not being supportive they just are trying to help you see what you have, and are not sure how to deal with you having more treatment. Sit tight Bambi, have a glass of wine tonight.

Hi all, I've read some of the recent posts on here but am finding it hard to know where everyone is in their cycles.

Bambi - I hope it works out for you this time around, you know it is early days yet.

Soosy - do you have dates for your FET?

NMM - when do you start downregging? I hope soon so we can do this together

I saw my consultant last Friday - he really has no interpersonal skills at all - when we walked in he asked how I was and I said I was good. He said "Really??" which made me think there was something horrible in my file I didn't know about. Anyway, they are happy for me to go ahead again, and I started downregging today, EC around the beginning of June. I'm doing an antagonistic cycle again and downregging on the pill as I don't like Buserelin at all.

The consultant did say he would most likely reduce my puregon dose this time around as last time I started on the max dose of 450, which was then reduced twice but EC was still brought forward by 4 days. I think they were worried that I wouldn't respond well and were trying to get as many eggs as they could as quickly as possible...but this protocol didn't work too well for me (5 eggs, 4 fertilised) so we are trying a lower dose this time around.

The other tricky thing is that we are moving at the end of the month, so the scans and EC will be after we've moved 250 miles north......but we are keeping a houseboat in London for DH to use when he is working there, so DD and I can camp out there. It isn't going to be a huge amount of fun for her, but I'll find local parks to play in I hope. If it gets too bad I have friends around here close to the clinic and I shall throw myself on their mercy.

I did think of transferring to a northern clinic, and will do if this cycle fails, but the waiting lists are long even for private patients at the decent clinics, and I will have to redo all those poxy tests etc, and I really wanted to have a spring cycle NOW rather than wait again. I have a positive feeling about spring/summer cycles as I did read they have double the success rate of winter ones.

Right, off to start packing boxes

Hi Nomore and Soosy...thank you for your support. I know everyone will say that it's too early to tell but I this is my fourth round of IVF and I know it hasn't worked already, didn't sleep well last night as feeling too sad but know that actually as much as anything I want to get to the end of doing IVF whatever the outcome - it takes such a massive toll even though I have been blessed with dd. In fact my friends are much less supportive and that's not helping, they seem to think I should be happy with one (which I am) and I've not even told a lot of them...still, I've survived the disappointment before, I'll survive it again!

Soosy, when do you start down regging, sorry, I've lost track.

hi bambi sorry you're feeling down. I'm not sure what you can do to take your mind off things (or even if that's really posible) but I agree with soosy - do some fun things with your dd.
soosy I have just recently learn to knit and I love it
Still waiting to start down-regging here - fed up of waiting already - can't imagine what I'll be like in the 2ww!

Oh bambi I am sorry to hear you are down. I used to go to the cinema to take my mind off things, but I know it is difficult with children. I find the whole IVF thing hideous because you cannot stop thinking about it all the time. The 7 years we spent doing IVF before DS Are a blur as I did nothing really except IVF, and at least this time DS keeps my mind off the damn subject. Is there anything you can do with DD? Don't symptom spot, most people don't have any until they know they are pg anyway! Anyway these percentages I think are all a bit skewed as I know two people who got pg first time so that means one other person would have to do it six times to have a +ive.

Take it easy and eat chocolate, I have taken up knitting!!! churning out teddies! Good luck

sorry, that bit in the middle should read ...but am not feeling hopeful, I spent the weekend....

Hello ladies, how are you all? I'm starting to really struggle with the 2WW now. Today is a week since the EC so I'm desparate for a sign that implantation is happening - but not getting anything. I still feel that something might be happening 'down there' but am 4the weekend with a friend who is down-regulating for her first attempt at the moment. She will be doing ICSI and has been given a 35-4% chance of success. I didn't even tell her that I'd had the ET last Thursday because I didn't want to upstage her first go especially as I will be testing as she has her ET (didn't want to freak her out i I get a negative). My chance of success was 10-20%. I know I already have my lovely girl and I am very lucky but I was kind of jealous. I so want a sibling for my dd, it makes me sad to think of her being an only child. Oh what a process IVF is, I just can't concentrate on anything - I was doing quite well being busy with dd until now but I just know the next 10 days are going to be so damn hard. Anyone got any good distractio techniques? How's everyone else getting on?

Hello ladies, how are you all? I'm starting to really struggle with the 2WW now. Today is a week since the EC so I'm desparate for a sign that implantation is happening - but not getting anything. I still feel that something might be happening 'down there' but am 4the weekend with a friend who is down-regulating for her first attempt at the moment. She will be doing ICSI and has been given a 35-4% chance of success. I didn't even tell her that I'd had the ET last Thursday because I didn't want to upstage her first go especially as I will be testing as she has her ET (didn't want to freak her out i I get a negative). My chance of success was 10-20%. I know I already have my lovely girl and I am very lucky but I was kind of jealous. I so want a sibling for my dd, it makes me sad to think of her being an only child. Oh what a process IVF is, I just can't concentrate on anything - I was doing quite well being busy with dd until now but I just know the next 10 days are going to be so damn hard. Anyone got any good distractio techniques? How's everyone else getting on?

NMM sounds as though you shouldn't worry.

Bambi that sounds great, keeping my finger crossed for you. Feet up and lots of rest.

AF arrived yesterday, so I have a scan on Friday, I am doing a natural cycle so I get scanned until follicle gets to about 15mm and then you do OPK's until +ive and then about four days later ET. so I suppose about ET will be around days 16 to 18, I hope its earlier as have been pg twice in 28 day cycle.

Hope everyone else is well.

Sx

It didn't turn into anything too heavy - more like a little bit of blood streaked in CM/discharge from lube the doc did say I would feel a crampy AF type pain as she put the catheter in and I did - exactly when she said "about now"
Bambi That sounds good if they're both good grade embryos, fingers crossed for you for the next two weeks. We really deserve a BFP on here don't we (or two..or three..)
Soosy Exciting How long does a frozen cycle take? When might you get youe ET?

Oh and

nomore...I was told I might get some spotting after the transfer!

Soosy! exciting!

Hello ladies, thank you SO much for your good wishes, it really helps! I had two 10 cell grade 3 (4 being the hightest) embryo's transferred. The others were not good enough to freeze. FINGERS CROSSED! I woke up boiling and had really vivid dreams last night but do realise that that's going to be due to the progesterone rather than the emby's - much too soon for symptoms (not too soon to start trying to spot them tho). I feel quite hopeful as the emby's looked so much better than the two that were transferred after the FET last NOvember, they did not look well, even to my untrained eye. So, what do you think? I was really happy about them being 10 cells until I read something about overdevelopment....hmmm, you just have not choice but to wait and see 2ww, slightly reduced by having a day three transfer, 12 days to go! Hoping everyone is getting the lovely weather we're getting here!

You may have a tiny bit of blood after trial ET, did you have any cramping during the trial ET as they my have irritated the cervix, more likely than nicking the lining as the catheters are quite soft. But I would ask the clinic, just to be sure.

Af arrived today so I suppose I should ring for a day 7 scan for FET!

Bambi Hope all went well today and you're busy relaxing

Can I just ask is it normal to have a little bit of blood after baseline scan/trial ET? I'm assuming so (guess catheter nicked lining?) but thought it might be wise to ask the wisdom of MN

Bambi thinking of you -

Our house buyers mortgage has been approved so things seem to be going the right way and I may have found a house for us to move to, only problem is that DH has to see it on Saturday and I think it may be a popular one, so might have move quickly and pay the asking price, which although we can it seems odd to in this market.

I am waiting for af to arrive so that we can do an FET, and of course I think i am going to have a longer cycle, should be due today, but no sign yet....

Hope everyone else is well and life is ok.

S x

Thinking of you today Bambi

Sorry I've not been about. Hope everybody is well. Just wanted to wish everybody the best of luck. Please somebody be pregnant very soon.x.x.x.

It is going to work Good luck tomorrow.

me again! Yes, doing my best to relax given that the clinic phoned back to postpone my ET til tomorrow as the nurse taht was going to do it today has a personal matter. Hope she's ok. Man, this cycle is NOT going to plan, still it ain't over yet.

Many thanks for the postive thoughts. I suppose that the extra day might actually help to work out which emby's are doing better. I was considering asking about letting them go to day 5, anyone done that? I'm a bit reluctant about freezing any from this cycle (if any are good enough) as I need there to be an end of IVF in sight - for my sanity.

Positive mantra - IT'S GONNA WORK! IT'S GONNA WORK! IT'S GONNA WORK! IT'S GONNA WORK!

Bambi Thinking of you (and your lovely strong healthy embryos too) today Will be sending extra positive thoughts around 1pm too.