IVFers thread

Hi nomore,

Really sorry to hear you are reacting so badly, from what I have heard people do get really different reactions. I know a woman who went through ten cycles before success in a very business like way, and another who did one, failed, but felt so miserable the whole time she never tried again.

I would keep on for a few more days. I had a really bad time on thurs/fri/sat - headaches and overwhelming tiredness, but it seems to have lifted since Sunday night. I guess I am suggesting it may get better.

If you do go off - have you thought of 'natural IVF'? My sister is doing this - it involves very minimal drugs and is getting good success rates. I am going to move to it when I have used my NHS cycles (if I am not lucky ofcourse).

I'd hang in there for a bit longer, but remember there are other options.

cired = cried

Have been mega emotional today - just like I was on the Clomid Have cired twice today and have almost cried a few more times. In a way I'm glad to get some symptoms, though I think DH wishes I wasn't!! Am also feeling really low today, am thinking of getting signed off for a bit if it doesn't go away and if GP agrees - what do you think, should I give it my all in this sense or should I try and keep life as 'normal' as possible?

Ta soosy, am actually feeling much better today so god knows what is up. How are you feeling nomore? Any symptoms yet?

And just a general question, does anyone else think about adoption when they are doing this?

Its probably that your ovaries are really working overtime that you feel grotty. Remember to drink plenty of water, follicles are full of water, so the headaches may be because you are slightly dehydrated. Good Luck.

I am glad I cancelled my FET as I have had stress unknown this last week, the buyer of our house is prevaricating, we were supposed to exchange two weeks ago and today, neither of which have happened, we have another buyer in the wings but I am finding it hard to keep calm. Also DS is v unwell with tummy bug, which of course I shall catch, so a good thing i am not have embryos put back.

Good Luck Sooty

Good point about reading the leaflet - I will study it tonight. Yeah, I did ask the nurses - but my 'teach' wasn't with one of the smart ones.

Has anyone noticed worse symptoms around 'ovulation' time? I have had a hell few days - bad headaches and feeling really tired - but I also noticed a few ovulation symptoms. I am wondering if my body is just fighting it harder at this time? Hopefully, cause I have a hell deadline next week and at this rate I will be wanting to sleep through it!

Good luck for the week all . . . .sootyk.

I am with you Sooty about clomid, I just got hot flushes and a longer cycle! (with 3 follicles instead of the usual one)!!!! I have to tell you I think clomid is worse than IVF and you are right to want to miss that episode. I don't understand about splitting the dose or the thighs, as your ovaries are in your lower abdomen. I have always had a really good response injecting into my tummy and in one place. Read the leaflet that comes with the menopur - it would interesting to know what the manufacturer says! BTW ask the nurses, perhaps it is just to keep you occupied.

Nomore you probably won't have any symptoms and you won't know until you have a scan if they are working, but they are working. Don't worry about that.

sorry nomore I didn't read your message well enough, I thought you were having symptoms, not wanting the reassurance of them. If it helps - I didn't really have any but when I went in for my scan/blood tests the Dr's said my body had responded well to the hormones and they'd done the job . . .

Hi Soosy,

I have been told to split the menopur dose - one on each leg, and then also keep up the suprefact (at a lower dose) . . . hence the three needles . . . I guess they have their reasons but I wish they would explain why. . . my nurses are recommending the thighs not the stomach???

And Clomid should come with a health warning - YOU WILL FEEL SUICIDAL! Did anyone read about Helena Bonham-Carter saying she had a terrible experience on Clomid? I think it is handed out way too liberally, I would rather have skipped that episode entirely . . . and I would recommend people not to bother unless they are doing IUI as it dried me up completely.

Sorry to hear you are naseaus nomore, have you tried ginger tea? I find just inhaling it helps.

On Clomid I was just loads more emotional - unable to hold back tears over even the most little/stupid things (you know when you can usually stop yourself...) and more snappy/short tempered than usual rather than having any physical symptoms. Though for downregging I'd kind of like to have symptoms to show it's working - a bit like morning sickness I guess, at least you know your body is reacting to the hormones which reassures you that the hormones are there (or not in the case of DRing)

NoMore you may not have any side effects but I remember feeling really flat, no hot flushes, like taking clomid though!

Sooty, why three needles? Avoid bruising, do the injections where you can see! Your tummy below your tummy button is quite a good area as there is some fat there!

Good Luck girls.

Hi nomore, the first week or so was fine for me, the last one (week three) I have had more headaches and generally feeling like I am in constant PMT. I have to say it hasn't been that bad, but then I know that I experience PMT quite mildly compared to my friends.

I had my scan/blood tests today and I am responding well so I am a booked in to start taking the menopur in a week. It's annoying to have to wait another week (and keep downregging) but I guess the NHS has to build the possibility that you might not respond into their number crunching. . . .

Not looking forward to three needles rather than one though, does anybody have any tips for avoiding bruising or is it just pot luck as to whether you hit a blood vessel?

Hi girls - can I ask when might I start getting side-effects / menopausal symptoms from the downregging? I'm feeling fine today (started the spray yesterday am) but am worrying about how I might feel when the symptoms kick in!

I think it's good to dip in and out of. . the headings are quite good like that. . . . you can sort out what is relevant to you.

Hi sooty I've got that book too, can't quite seem to get round to properly reading it though, it's more there as a reference if I need it!

Hi,

Maybe last night was the night for meltdowns! I decided to start reading 'A child Against all Odds" by R Winston at 11o'clock last night, and the brain just went into overdrive and I was awake until 4am ! Not the smartest sleeping remedy . . . and I understand what you are saying nomore about getting started . . . the anticipation is probably the worst. I did four cycles of IUI and I found them okay because you were always going into the clinic and talking to the nurses etc. The wait to start IVF, then the three weeks of downregging, it all starts to build up . . I can't imagine what the final two weeks are going to be like! Good luck Swerve!

Hello Nomore Glad to hear you are feeling better now you have started. I remember just being in floods of tears my first cycle.

Swerve Waiting for your af, and for some reason its always not when you're expecting it, just to throw you off balance! Shows that stress really affects your body.

Had scan today lining still a bit thin, so have decided to abandon this FET cycle, Will try again next month in May, so maybe we will be together Swerve. DS is also going through a bit of a phase and I think that plus the trying to move is all taking its toll. Roll on May!

Had a massive meltdown last night but having actually started the drugs this morning I feel much better. Fear of the unknown is so much worse than actually doing whatever it is you're scared of. (and yes, I know that's the advice I was dishing out on here a couple of weeks ago)

morning all! I hope you're all feeling well and those hormones are doing what they should be.

Nomore, i'm excited for you! I felt so much better when I started the process as I found the waiting agony. It's like starting on a journey that you've been thinking about and planning for. I hope it all agrees with you.

Soosy, why not go and ask the lister? Is there any harm in getting another opinion?

Are any of your dh's on supplements? my dh has low and lazy wrigglers and we were advised that there were supplements that helped. This was after we'd done a couple of cycles, so were were a little frustrated not to have been told earlier in the process.

I'm still on the waiting game, for AF. Soosy - May will be a great month for the frosties. It will! it will!!

Ta

Fingers crossed for you tomorrow then

And thanks guy's I sort of understand the downregging idea more now . . . I have my blood test tomorrow, and scan thursday

Hi,

Golly, I am lucky, my trust gives me two free cycles - who'd have though living in Hackney- the poorest borough in the UK - would have such perks!

I think I'd rather sniff than prick but I guess they have their reasons. It seems funny we are all on the NHS and doing different things. . .

I'm UK and NHS funded for this first cycle - if we need more we have to pay (we're already saving - if we hit the jackpot first time then we'll have lots of lovely money for spending on baby things ) I'm downregging on Synarel - I have to do two sniffs am and two sniffs eve (12hrs apart) for 3 weeks then have blood test to check I'm 'switched off' Are your injections downregging ones? I don't know the names of the drugs you mention.

I am at Chelsea & Westminster and I do a protocol, which m you start on d3 with FSH until follicles reach about 15mm then you inject to stop ovulation. Downregging is like having the menopause they stop all hormones so that the injected hormones take over. I understand that if you sniff you have to do it several times a day, whereas a jab is only once. don't worry about the bruises I still bruise myself the first couple of times each cycle. OAP (who is on this thread also) dowregs on the pill which sounds quite good as well.

Am also on NHS but am self funding as I had my one funded cycle way back in the last century! and also now have child so do not qualify for free treatment.

Good luck to you both!