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Fertility Appointments and Beyond.... the journey continues

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Gracie2021 · 09/12/2021 07:45

New thread for us to continue our fertility clinic appointment progress...

Some of us are waiting for initial appointments, some are having tests and some are starting treatment!

@tillybabs
@thislittlebird
@kay00
@jeaniej
@PurpleUnicorn01
@paintfairy
@dogmam
@flutterby8
@Ughmaybenot
@dancingfairydreams
@beckycarlos
@jkjellyhead
@juno231
@decaffe
@bumble44
@BritinNZ
@tinkerbell098
@pinkginpls
@thedaydreambelievers
@everymumday
@wanderlust16
@lori23ttc

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magnoliasinbloom · 09/02/2022 13:45

@Gracie2021 that's great to hear, so pleased you have a clear plan in place and that this cycle is free :) You'll be IUI cycle twins with me!

beckyCarlos · 09/02/2022 13:18

@gracie2021 I'm so glad things sound a bit more positive for you now 😊 but dont ever feel you have to apologise for coming here and getting it off your chest, thats what we're all here for x x x

@JeanieJ I've never had day 21 bloods done, while I'm guessing, I suspect if you've had an internal ultrasound thats confirmed ovulation and youre fairly regular they won't be overly concerned. They also give you some form of progesterone (mine is vaginal, so sexy) but I know other ladies have injections, to help after stims/before and after transfer so nothing to worry about there. Although, I would ask the question anyway just to be sure! X

Gracie2021 · 09/02/2022 12:20

I'm just off the phone with my doctor and we're converting this round to IUI but then going to do two dual stim back to back cycles to try bank some embryos before going anywhere near a transfer. Feel so much better for having a plan. Also going to rerun bloods for me and do a DNA frag test on hubby as I put the argument forward that even though he'd no risk factors, we'll have such a small number of eggs to work with that it made sense to do it and the doctor agreed. Also getting my testosterone checked so I can add DHEA if needed. Hopefully covering all bases. Feel so much better now that the limbo of this cycle has ended and the decision is made. Luckily for us because of the meds error they're going to roll all our money forward for the next IVF round. The relief.

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Juno231 · 09/02/2022 11:59

@JeanieJ they'll give you progesterone regardless when going through IVF so it won't matter! I don't think they'll bother to test you for it at this stage either.

Gracie2021 · 09/02/2022 10:53

@JeanieJ hope you get the call soon. I think progesterone will only really be an issue when you're doing a transfer and they'll be doing bloods for that is my understanding plus supplementing your progesterone. Don't think it's an issue for the stims/egg collection part.

@magnoliasinbloom my lining is actually great now with those few changes but used to sit about 6mm. I also do acupuncture and would swear it helps my lining as my period changed completely since going. Hope it works for you.

Good that you can choose your level of awake @thislittlebird. Tell them you want puppy sleep hunting level. That's like max level 😁 how are you feeling?

So glad the holiday was good @Tillybabs and wishing you the best of luck for a negative pcr and a smooth recovery.

Thanks @dogmam feeling a bit more together now so hopefully can be fairly pragmatic through todays discussions and leave the emotion at the door til after. Can I ask how you're doing these days? Do you have long to wait til your next cycle.

Hope the TWW is going smoothly @PurpleUnicorn01 x

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JeanieJ · 09/02/2022 09:16

Hey guys,

Question -
So, I'm playing the waiting game for NHS funding for IVF right now.
However, I've never had a day 21 blood progesterone test - when I asked my Dr, he said I didn't need one because he'd seen that I'd ovulated when I had a scan, but the reason I'm worried is because when I temp, I'm always cold - max 36.6 & I have weak OPKs... I wonder if I just have low progesterone?
What do you think I should do? If I get accepted for funding will they just do the blood test at that point?

magnoliasinbloom · 09/02/2022 08:37

@Gracie2021 thanks! Eating all the almonds and avocados for vitamin e at the moment. I hope your appointment goes well today and you get to ask your questions! You're a trooper through all this :)

@thislittlebird thank you!

thislittlebird · 08/02/2022 18:18

@dogmam I'd have felt more comfortable with the buserelin but ovitrelle it is. Just have to hope I'm one of the lucky ones who doesn't get OHSS :/ I'm going to speak to the doctor on the EC day if I'm not feeling well since the trigger.

The reason I'd asked for a sedative for ET was because I'd heard mixed stories about how it has gone for people so I'm concerned it won't be smooth sailing and I'll freak out. I don't like the speculum scenario, prefer the familiar wand.

@Kay00 I asked how awake I'll be and they said I can choose, so I'll be requesting not to be awake/aware! I had to be sedated for an endoscopy before.

@magnoliasinbloom good news!

@Gracie2021when will you be speaking to them tomorrow? Discussing your options including egg banking sounds like a good idea.

Tillybabs · 08/02/2022 17:33

@Gracie2021 don't be sorry at all. It's not an easy process and for them to get it wrong and you now having to start the cycle again is really frustrating.

My holiday was fab thank you (you asked me on the other thread). My surgery is next week Weds, but it's pending a pcr test 3 days before so just praying that comes back negative.

dogmam · 08/02/2022 16:27

@thislittlebird my trigger was 1mg buserelin. I had Lorazapam the night before EC and the morning of, I would deffinetly recommend it if you're anxious, ask you clinic about it. It deffinetly took the edge off, felt mildly drunk. Then I had the sedation but I was awake so could feel stuff going on and hear them chatting.. Then fast asleep for an hour straight afterwards. When it comes to collection, from my 2 experiences, zero pain at all, very calm, basically lie there and let them do their thing. For me, I feel less during transfer than I do an internal scan, so if you're fine at scans than transfer will be a doddle. The worst part is the glaring lamp that is directed at your 'area' so they can see what they're doing!
With OHSS, if fingers crossed it works, then your pregnancy will bring the OHSS on, if you were high risk. I remember saying to my clinic after collection that I felt ok so would fresh be considered, but that didn't matter as the risk was later on if it worked.

@Gracie2021 ah bless you, what a really shitty time you've had. I'm pleased you've got your list of questions prepared. You sound like you've got a clear plan to move forward with this which is good. Fingers crossed for tomorrow that whatever the outcome you will know what your next steps will be.

@PurpleUnicorn01 how's your FET cycle going?

Gracie2021 · 08/02/2022 14:22

@magnoliasinbloom congrats that's fantastic. Fingers crossed that little follicle will do great for you. Try heat packs on your stomach for twenty mins a night. Also vit D and vit E are meant to be good for lining. Fingers crossed 🤞

@thislittlebird you poor thing hate that EC has such anxiety associated for you. Hope you're able to get knocked well out and can just wake up to good news.

Thanks for the advice @paintfairy. I have much the same idea myself. Plus the left ovary did nothing this month because of the cyst there so hopefully could get one or two follicles from that another month too. Also going to talk to the doctor about embryo banking and not going anywhere. Ear transfer just yet. Will see.

@beckyCarlos so sorry you have that worry too. You have this image for your life and it just feels like the universe doesn't want to cooperate but hopefully we'll both get there eventually.

Hi @Tillybabs great to hear from you. Sorry you're stuck waiting but glad you have next steps laid out. How long til your hysteroscopy?

I'd read about natural IVF @PurpleUnicorn01. From what I've seen financially it wouldn't be a good bet for us as the cost seems to be the same as a normal round of IVF so we'd be paying the same for one embryo instead of the hopefully 3+ we might have a shot with normal IVF. Going to ask about combinations FSH and clomid though as have seen some people online have good success with that.

Sorry for the rant yesterday folks. Just got hit with that out of nowhere and needed a moment to deal. Have my list of questions ready for tomorrow and have a thread of a possible plan of action in my head so hoping tomorrow we might finally have a decision on this cycle and be able to talk next steps going forward too 🤞

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magnoliasinbloom · 08/02/2022 13:58

I had my 10 day scan for my first letrozole/IUI cycle this morning. I have responded to the meds (yay!) and had a dominant 15mm follicle on my right ovary, but my uterine lining was still looking a bit thin. I have to go back in for another scan on Thursday morning to see if it has progressed, with trigger/IUI hopefully happening after that. They wanted me to do OPKs but having PCOS they generally aren't accurate for me. I might try and do some just in case anyway.

Kay00 · 08/02/2022 09:32

I had a similar sedation when I had my (two) colonoscopies and endoscopy last year. I certainly felt like I was awake for the whole thing but remember nothing about the endoscopy and have huge blank spots about the colon part Grin. It was all very relaxing considering!

paintfairy · 08/02/2022 09:00

@thislittlebird the transfer was so easy I wouldn't have even known they'd done it, had they not been showing me. Didn't feel a thing, never mind any pain.
EC the sedation is weird. I could have sworn I was awake the whole time. But I have no memory of anything bar about a minute and they couldn't have been that quick. The drugs relax you so you physically aren't anxious and mostly have no clue what's even going on. Much less stressful than going to the dentist!

thislittlebird · 08/02/2022 08:43

@beckyCarlos yeah, I’ve heard various things but mostly that people have been ‘asleep’ and I’m hoping that’s me. I will be telling them this, I don’t need to be aware!

beckyCarlos · 08/02/2022 08:31

@thislittlebird i have two friends who've told me about their EC, the clinic does 'waking sedation'... the official clinic info says youre really relaxed and, while awake, don't actually remember anything about the procedure after and certainly dont feel anything. Friend #1 said she was 'aware' of everything, her eyes wer closed but she could hear them counting eggs, and knew two different docs were involved etc. Friend #2 fell asleep as soon as the drugs went in and they had to wake her up for tea and a sandwich after 🤣 it seems very subjective! Definitely ask for extra help x

thislittlebird · 08/02/2022 06:55

@beckyCarlos Maybe I’ll mention that one! I’m going to ask them if I’ll be asleep asleep. I cannot be awake in any way for the EC.

I’m prone to get myself in a right old mess, I really panic and there’s the risk I’ll try to run away from the bed/chair/table I’m on.

beckyCarlos · 07/02/2022 17:29

@thislittlebird my clinic can do you a Lorazepam (spelling?) Before EC, on top of the sedation they do, so I dont see why they wouldn't be able to before ET, always worth an ask! I'm pretending I'll be 100% chill by the time ET rolls around, but I know I'll get lightheaded and faint in the chair, its just who I am 🤣 so good to hear your partner can go in with you though! X

paintfairy · 07/02/2022 17:16

@Gracie2021 that's crap. But - if it were me, I would cancel and start again if they are willing to pay the difference. You might have low amh but the amount of meds you have early in the cycle is what creates more. The amount later just makes what is there grow. So done properly it may well be that you get more follicles next time? And I would want to maximise my chances.
I know it's disappointing it means waiting another month or 2 but I think that's better than going ahead and potentially ending up with nothing (and a huge financial hit).

thislittlebird · 07/02/2022 16:49

Come in for ET I mean, not for EC.

thislittlebird · 07/02/2022 16:48

@beckyCarlos it’s such a very dignified experience all round 😭

I spoke to them about a sedative for the possible transfer. I have previous with massive anxiety about procedures and ended up freaking out during a couple of invasive things in the past so I’ve asked if it’s possible but I have to ask on EC day. They said dh can come in with me, which is nice. Assuming we get any embryos at all 🙃🙃🙃

beckyCarlos · 07/02/2022 15:29

@thislittlebird a rectal painkiller?!?! Tell them thats not how you make babies 🤣 I'm crying here!

@gracie2021 I'm so sorry that sounds awful. I know what you mean, I always wanted 2, maybe three, and knowing I'll be lucky to get 1 (with my own eggs) is so hard to think about. As @thislittlebird said, they might recommebd you for a long protocol (its what I'll be on, eventually, still period pending!) Because, somehow, you get better recruitment of folicles when you quieten the ovaries then shock them with high stims x

magnoliasinbloom · 07/02/2022 15:27

@Gracie2021 I'm so sorry to hear that :( What a nightmarish couple of days this has all been. Nothing is impossible though - low AMH definitely does not mean that you can't get pregnant. Hope you have lots of puppy cuddles tonight xx

@thislittlebird glad it went well for you today :)

Tillybabs · 07/02/2022 15:23

Hi ladies. I've been really quiet as nothing much is going on at the moment.

I have my hysterocopy coming up which I'm doing privately and then the clinic will decide what to do from there.

As I have adenomyosis I might need to downregulate for 2-3 months and zoladex has been mentioned. Im trying not to read too much into it but some of the side effects and potentially going into early menopause is slightly worrying. Although my amh is good so hopefully that won't happen but I will discuss with them in detail all my options before starting anything.

@Gracie2021 I'm really sorry to read your updates. On the plus side, I'm glad you won't lose out financially as it was there error.

@thislittlebird good luck with your EC!

thislittlebird · 07/02/2022 15:22

So they called to confirm EC is Friday at 10.30. I’m bricking it, just want the tea and biscuits stage tbh. Ovitrelle trigger also confirmed for 22.30 Wednesday.

@PurpleUnicorn01 this is the thing, I’m convinced I’ll get OHSS of some kind if it works and hopefully mild but they don’t seem bothered so it is what it is.

@Gracie2021 I’m really sorry, this is all so stressful without additional problems. You’re on max doses now, but you weren’t before that so they can definitely get you a new protocol and start again surely? Possibly with down regulation I think you said?

Glad to hear there’s a possible alternative option, have they discussed egg/embryo banking with you at all? I know a few women with low AMH who are doing that. Also good to hear they’re happy to refund because of their error, which is the right thing to do.

Totally understandable that you feel like crap and you should totally not feel bad about that, I think we’ve all had to do some readjusting of our future plans but try to take it one day at a time so it’s not overwhelming. Cuddle that puppy lots.

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