I am pregnant and unsure if to have my second jab

Think of it this way - would you question other vaccines (such as whooping cough or flu) that are routinely given in pregnancy? How much research would you do on these before having them? People on the internet can’t tell you whether something is safe or not, this is why there are guidelines in place. I’m consultant led and chatted through the pros and cons of getting vaccinated very early on in pregnancy, from her professional opinion (and at the time - early in the year) looking at cases of pregnant women getting Covid in their third trimester in America for example, the outcomes were way worse than the risk associated with being vaccinated.

Ffs we aren't doctors

[quote Jadesx]**@ChinesedragonTeapot* @Babdoc* @charl881 @onelittlefrog @Kollamoolitumarellipawkyrollo @strawberrydonuts @Babyno1x Wow. Guys thank you so much. Everyone is open to their own opinions I jisy need to know if someone is as early as me I haven’t hit my 12 weeks would you recommend getting this[/quote]
I had mine at 8 weeks

[quote Babyno1x]@Jadesx my midwife said she thinks it's best to wait until baby is born to get jabbed but that's just her advice and totally up to you
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Which completely goes against the ROCG! Ridiculous

I had my first jab before I conceived and had my 2nd at 6 weeks. I am now 8.5 weeks and been absolutely fine. I definitely agree that it’s personal choice but it can be so much worse if you get covid in the 3rd trimester.

Hi - totally understand. I went ahead as thought it was for the best I wasn’t battling covid whilst pregnant, that seemed the bigger risk. Also pregnant people pass on antibodies to their babies, how amazing is that! Take care, I know it’s a stressful time.

I was 10 weeks on Saturday and had my second jag (Moderna). DH had his at the same time and on Day 2 I felt a bit worse than him (achy/tired) but feel fine now.

All the documentation I read in advance stated it was my choice but there are significant risks in the 3rd trimester if you catch covid (premature birth being the one that stood out to me) and I also got other vaccines in my last pregnancy (flu and whooping cough I think) and they're not live vaccines either so I figured it was about as risky as them.

@Babyno1x Your midwife should not be giving you her personal opinion that completely goes against the research, evidence and recommendation of her professional body. That’s horrific.

The vaccine has shown to have no adverse effects in pregnancy whereas covid has been proven to increase the risk of maternal death, doubles the risk of stillbirth and increases the risk of growth restriction and prematurity. It’s a no brainer!

Your best doing your own research and coming to the decision that your most comfortable with. Go for proper sources, NHS, Royal college of midwifery etc and read through all the information.

There is a lot of evidence that it won’t cause harm in pregnancy. There are a number of studies indicating that there is no increased number in miscarriages or abnormal scan results. There are women who were vaccinated in their first trimesters in the US back in December who will be giving birth now and if they were seeing an increase in birth deformities or stillbirth as a result of the vaccine, that would be coming to light now and would be being reported on. Many women in their second and third trimesters who also had the vaccine will have babies now who are several months old. Women in the US were moved into the vulnerable category and able to get their jab as soon as they were pregnant, so there is loads of data.

I think what you mean is that there is no certainty that there is no long term risk to baby. There isn’t and there won’t be for years and years. However, there also isn’t long term data on the effect of catching covid in pregnancy will have on a baby at a later stage and there won’t be for years and years. We do know that there is data to support that women who catch covid in their third trimester are more likely to be hospitalised and require ICU more frequently. We also know these women are more likely to give birth prematurely (and the issues that can bring later in life) and they’re at a higher risk of stillbirth. None of which is occurring with the vaccine.

It’s a massive decision. It took me ages to reach a decision and I did a lot of research. The research is out there and is all overwhelming positive. I had my first jab at 12 weeks and second at 21 - baby is absolutely fine and currently kicking me quite hard! I started with the Stella Creasy MP video with Pregnant than screwed, then started researching other studies. There are various links throughout this topic on MN that you can read through.

I'm 16 weeks, had my first 2 days after I found out I was pregnant and my second the day after my 12 week scan. The way I looked at it was that I'm due in January, if Covid repeats itself we will be in our fourth wave smack bang on my due date. I really wouldn't fancy my chances of escaping from a busy hospital Covid free. Whilst I know you can still get Covid double jabbed the people I know who have had it haven't hardly been poorly compared to those who haven't been jabbed.

I’m currently 15 weeks. I had my first (AstraZeneca) jab before I got pregnant and then had a bit of a delay getting my second jab as the person administering it wanted me to get advice from a doctor. I spoke to a doctor and she said, yes get it done. So I had it at about 12 weeks or something like that. The doctor said it’s basically made up like the flu vaccine and that’s perfectly safe to give to pregnant women.
There’s a risk of having premature birth if you have Covid when you’re pregnant and emerging evidence that there’s risk of stillbirth, so I feel much better having had the vaccine.

"While the chances of having a stillbirth are low, there is some emerging evidence that the risk may be higher if you have COVID-19 at the time of birth."

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/people-at-higher-risk/pregnancy-and-coronavirus/

No such increased risk of stillbirth has been noted with any of the vaccines.

You really don't want Covid whilst you're pregnant.

It's completely personal choice just be aware that with covid a high fever is a common symptom which can cause developmental issues or worse.

I had one for 12 days when I had covid despite regular paracetamol and Ibruprofen (not pregnant)

I know a few who have decided to wait til after 12 weeks which wouldn't be too far away for you but just be cautious in this time period.

[quote Jadesx]@Babyno1x have you had your first jab hun? I have. But I totally get where your coming from their isn’t enough tests that’s has been ran and they can’t say for certain if it won’t “harm” the unborn baby. It just says “no known evidence” that isn’t good enough for me now that I’m carrying a baby[/quote]
What do you actually know about the tests that have been run on these vaccines? Have you looked into this yourself, or is this just something you have heard people saying?

Because if you actually do your research (and I am talking about actually researching the vaccine, the developers and manufacturers, not looking on Facebook/ YouTube/ Social Media), you will find that the Covid vaccines have been through all of the same rigorous safety checks as any other vaccine.

It has been absolutely approved as safe, and that includes for pregnant women. You and your baby will be fine if you have it. If you catch Covid, you might not be.

I would be much more worried about taking a chance with Covid if I were you.

I had my first jab at 11 weeks (so not as early as you are now, but before 12 weeks) and second at 19 weeks. I didn’t hesitate. Like pps say, there’s no evidence it will harm you or the baby, and loads of evidence that covid could.

Hi! I had my first jab when not pregnant and second jab at 6 weeks pregnant. I was mostly reassured by the NHS guidelines (basically, pregnant women were left out of the first stage of testing, but not later, so there is plenty of evidence now as to how it works on pregnant people and unborn babies). I also spoke to my dad (consultant gynaecologist) who said Moderna and Pfizer especially are completely fine to get first trimester, the only possible niggle was around AstraZeneca (due to the different structure of the vaccine), so he was going to recommend I delayed until second trimester if I was having AZ. I actually had moderna for both, so just went ahead as planned. No side effects second time round but YMMV. I have also heard enough anecdotal evidence from drs working in ITU intubating pregnant women to not want to be that myself. I appreciate it’s a really scary time (it’s my first pregnancy) but I’m confident in the NHS guidelines. Hope this helped

[quote Jadesx]@Babyno1x have you had your first jab hun? I have. But I totally get where your coming from their isn’t enough tests that’s has been ran and they can’t say for certain if it won’t “harm” the unborn baby. It just says “no known evidence” that isn’t good enough for me now that I’m carrying a baby[/quote]
But we have plenty of evidence that catching Covid could harm both you and your unborn baby.

In summary, the medical professionals who look after babies and pregnant women say to get the jab - I'd believe that rather than things people who are less qualified might say.

Of course you should get it.

The alternative is leaving yourself open to getting Covid, which could put you and your baby at risk.

@Babyno1x that’s such bad advice from your midwife!! She definitely shouldn’t be sharing a personal opinion with you in that capacity.

The NHS advice is to have the vaccination and I would 100% have it - you really wouldn’t want to have Covid while pregnant. People say we don’t know the long term effects of the vaccine but we also don’t know the long term effects of Covid.

From The Guardian:

"Dr Edward Morris, the president of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, said: “The number of pregnant women being admitted to ICU is worrying and reflects the rising prevalence of the virus in the UK that we saw in July.

“We have data of nearly 200,000 pregnant women receiving the vaccine with no safety concerns … We recommend that all pregnant women should get vaccinated against Covid-19, as the best way to protect themselves and their babies against severe illness and premature birth.”

The Royal College of Midwives said: “Pregnant women are at greater risk of serious illness if they get Covid … Getting the vaccine is the best way to keep you and your baby safe.”

Full article here:
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/09/worrying-numbers-of-pregnant-women-in-intensive-care-with-covid