December 07- MC Avengers in big pants, going through, been through or pg after a mc, still here, still eating cakes. We will not be beaten!

sorry about your dog, Dustin
We just have my mum's old, mad dog who must be about 16 now, and she's v independent and her main interest in us is as a food source, but I used to have 2 border collies who were the sweetest soppiest dogs ever, and I still miss them now. 1 died 3 years ago, the other 1 year ago, so I know how sad you must feel {{{hugs}}}

Coolkat, hope your mum's results are good news.

I'm so disorganised, only now got round to checking internet supermarket shopping delivery, and all seems booked up til after Christmas, so now face dragging dd to the shops each day to load up the buggy, as have no car. Oh well, maybe it'll help me have a slimming Christmas as won't be able to carry too many treats

Hope everyone else is well, and wrapped up warmly. At least the freexing weather feels Christmassy.

Ronshar, Me and dd went to Brighton too yesterday. I went to see my sister and niece, which was nice, but sooooo cold.

Kasha - great news about appointment, I hope it goes well

Bless him I hope he gets well soon.

Oh well better go back to work otherwise they will have me stuffed and put on wheels!

Thanks Jules It's really sad when they get old, you just want them to go on forever. It's nice there are animal lovers on here- I thought people were going to think I was crazy getting so upset over my little dog.

TJuice Kasha sfxmum Thank you for the condolences. TJuice they are very much part of the family. It was sad having to clear away all her stuff last night. I work in the animal rescue sector so I keep being asked if I will have another dog-don't think I could handle it at the moment.

Kasha Good news and good luck for Thursday.

good morning all

Dustin so sorry about your dog

Kasha it is wonderful news, sometimes it works I hope you get some progress soon.

Kate as for PCOS blood test and scan are the norm.
I guess you were talking about miscarriage odds, sorry am not very clear. but if you are to the best of my knowledge every pregnancy has a 1 in 4 change, having one mc does not make it more likely to have another one but neither does it lower the odds.

all ok here, quite cold and busy, hope you are all well. not long this this year is over and done with on to better things I say

hey kate.

i don't think the egg quality is affected by that kind of thing. according to dp, egg quality is pre-determined (but they do get old and deteriorate).

i was on some serious cold medication when i conceived. i don't even think being run-down will affect implantation (just thinking of all the women with low immune systems around the globe who conceive).

anyway, good luck with the bd-ing. i also did it every other day, although my gynae told me to do the stick thing. we thought it was more fun that way . . . well, initially at least

kasha -good luck for thursday. hope its not too horrible being back in the same area. i had the same thing a couple of times (and in fact tomorrow i have a scan there) but i thought it was kind of part of the process in a way.

Kasha that's great news! Seems like it's SUCH a lottery what treatment you get, how long you have to wait etc etc... Really hope it goes well for you.
I had my blood test results on Friday, apparently everything pretty normal. I didn't ask about PCOS, do you know what tests that shows up on? Or would it have showed on my scans?
I have 2 other questions ladies, if you can help.

1. My GP told me the odds of it happening next time are 1 in 16 - 1 in 4 the first time then 4x4 so 1 in 16 the 2nd time, but I'm sure I'd read that the odds of having 2 in a row were WAY smaller than that... Any ideas???? I know statistics are generally a load of bollocks and can be pretty much made to show whatever you want them to, but I can't help taking comfort from ones that sound positive, iyswim....
2. Am currently on CD8 and have a terrible cold. Cycle before mmc was always about 34 days but 1st af following erpc was 27 days after bleeding stopped. Really want to start ttc-ing again asap which I think means later this week. Been taking ibuprofen & paracetamol for cold. Am worried whether the drugs or the cold could affect the quality of the egg I release (assuming I do)... What do you reckon?

Evening everyone!

Dustin so sorry to hear about your dog

ronshar hope you had a lovely shopping trip! I've never been brave enough to go into Ann Summers either .

coolkat I hope your mum's scan goes OK. It must be really worrying for both of you.

I haven't posted since my evening out last week - it was so nice, and a good reminder of why I actually married DH . I hope we don't have to wait 2.5 years for another night out though!

And I have some good news - despite the complete crapness of my GP who said he didn't think the hospital would see me with "only" 2 m/cs and in any case it would be months, I got a letter from them on Saturday to say to ring the appointment line. Rang this morning and I have an appointment (wait for it) THIS THURSDAY!!!!! I hope they'll at least do some blood tests to rule out any PCOS/thyroid related problems, have to wait and see. The only downside is that I have to go to the same ward where they run the EPU and where my mc's were diagnosed and where I had my ERPC last month, so it will bring back some bad memories.

Have to go now to persuade DS it's time to sleep!

dustin - i am so sorry. its just the most heartbreaking situation - i had to do the same thing with my 14 year old cat and i still well up when i think about what a character she was and how much a part of the family she was too. really feel for you right now. big hugs xxx

Not been around much but I do have a quick lurk now and then to see how everyone is doing.

Justjules I am reaaly pleased your scan went ok. I am keeping everything crossed for you.

Tjuice Parents can surprise you! I am glad they were pleased for you.

I am just hoping that 2008 is a better year for me. Today has been horrible! I had to have my 14yr old dog put to sleep. She has always been there when I was getting over the mc's and now she has gone it just brings everything back. 2008 has got to be a better year.

good luck, gilly - hope it goes well with the buses and the sample! so 8 weeks for first consultation? not too bad.

hi jules, pops and sfxmum. i think i need a carol service to get all christmassy. i am getting there but i need the english thing to really get me in the mood. for example, i haven't yet heard that classic slade merry xmas song - for me that is the mark of Xmas!

telling my parents went quite well. my mum called me back and was really chuffed, so there you go. when you expect the worst, you get surprised. i think they got used to the idea before and were quite gutted about the miscarriage so i don't know why i was anticipating more drama. anyway, its just a relief and now I am really looking forward to going back.

feel totally spoilt today - although i missed all the xmas party gossip and intrigues, i got a nice gift from my work ( a book and private consultation with this famous danish stylist chick) and then a separate gift from the team i worked late on the alzheimer's project with - a lovely Marc Jacobs top! in its lovely marc jacobs paper bag from the brand new shop and everything! and its all loose and flowey so i can wear it while fully up the duff (the woman who chose it knows but no-one else does). makes all those hours seem totally worthwhile . . . .

ronshar - i want a rabbit myself. my friend says its the best thing ever and she uses it loads with her dp too. my mum even got one (i know, too weird huh) but she got the smaller one. while i was in there with her, i bought some heart-shaped black sequin nipple tassles because i found the ttc-sex was getting too boring

www.annsummers.com/single.asp?gid=7&cat=3&pid=4170&QSI=9c3d094d-bfc0-4cc7-8ca5-5eb9 2240d301

and they are 10 pounds as opposed to Agent Provocateur's which are 35

www.agentprovocateur.com/pasties/index.html/range/pasties/style/heart/colour/red/

Get some!!!! but most importantly have a fab day in Brighton.

Hi Jules how are you? Still on a high after the scan on Friday? [fsmie]

Coolkat I hope you get good news from your mums scan. I have been there so I know what it is like to wait and pray and hope for good news. Take it easy and make sure you and your mum enjoy yourselves with treats regardless of the test results.

Pops enjoy your time off and Ronshar let us know about your shopping trip

Wheely you are a brave girl to see NCTers with new babies and bumps. I was almost in tears at the carol service last night as there were a few little babies and several 6-7 mths old ones. Our baby would have been 7 mths for this first Christmas .

On a positive note though I went to the GP to pick up my results. My FSH level was 5 which she said was good and certainly did not give her any reason for concern. She run down all sorts of other figures and I am not sure if I got it right - progesterone level at 40.7? Overall she said that I was fine and as soon as DH did his sample and the results came back she would refer us to UCH. The waiting list is about 8 weeks. ?and DH has promised me he would do his sample today! He has even stayed working at home so he can do it but he is going to have to take the bus to hospital to drop it off as there is no parking. I hope he gets there within the hour!

Hi SFXmum ooh sounds like you are all Christmassy there - I am off work yipeeeeeeeee - going to wrap prezzies, do some girly lunch and work on feeling glad to be alive

Hey Wheely good luck with the NCT-ers - you will go to heaven lady!

Fingers crossed for your Mum collkat

good morning all

TJ sounds like a good way of spending a day. not much you can do re pressure, I am not in the camp of let's wait to tell, people surprise you with their kindness and support, as for the others just ignore them.

coolkat fingers crossed for your mum. unfortunately one can never predict when IT is going to hit youthinking of you.

this has been a strange weekend as I have clearly been ovulating, seems odd so soon afetr mc and since the ones before where busy ttc and this time we were avoiding it despite having very strong feelings to just ditch protection and go for it iyswim, still I rather wait. all very confusing

we went to Kew gardens Carol service on Saturday which was lovely and frozen and I am now feeling as Christmassy as I am likely to feel.

Hi All ! Morning - Nothing to report here but thought i'd say hello !

Any news from Sweetkitty ??

Hey Ronshar - have a nice time shopping - I keep meaning to ask you what part of sussex you are in - I'm from a small town just outside of Brighton !

Off to do some jobs this morning then an afternoon with my nct group most of whom either have number 2 or are expecting number 2. I have told them about 'me' and they're all lovely and understanding but still...

Hi All ! Morning - Nothing to report here but thought i'd say hello !

Any news from Sweetkitty ??

Hey Ronshar - have a nice time shopping - I keep meaning to ask you what part of sussex you are in - I'm from a small town just outside of Brighton !

Off to do some jobs this morning then an afternoon with my nct group most of whom either have number 2 or are expecting number 2. I have told them about 'me' and they're all lovely and understanding but still...

p.s. if you need some reasons to be happy to be you -put Jeremy Kyle on

Morning Ronshar was fretting about you. Did she tell you infront of everyone? I hope you can have a fab day shopping today - get yourself something nice - a treat for being so fab! Sending big who gives a fuck hugs
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Morning ladies.
After heatbreakingly good news from best friend I have hidden all weekend. Being a horrible resentful bitch. Luckily it was done with 'mums' from school in a spa! So it could have been worse. The best thing was I didnt think about TTC once. And I think I am at my lucky time, bollocks to lucky. Lost all hope now.

I am off to Brighton to do some xmas shopping. One of my friends is going to receive a "Rabbit" for Christmas. Not sure if I will be brave enough to go into Ann Summers but I shall try.

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

Hi Ladies

Sorry not posted for a while and have been so busy I have not read all the posts - SORRY.

Had a hard time yesterday think it all caught up with me.

Mum got brain scan on tuesday and gets results Thursday so I hope then they will be ok and all bad stuff has finished. Roll on 2008. X

sorry TJ not ignoring you sent it too soon
Glad you told your folks - they'll be over the moon I'm sure and if not sod em! Is freeeeeeeeeeezing in UK now so will be fab and christmassy fr your return hooray
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