Post Pill Party - Cocktail Club

@lovebug06 big hugs xxx please don't feel like you bring anything or anyone down, we are all friends here and we are here to support each other. I totally understand why you try to ignore the whole TTC process as much as you can; I'm 13 months in and I'm not even sure if I'm ovulating! So I cope by being pessimistic (or in my case realistic) and by not getting my hopes up... its rubbish. When you finally get your BFP I/we will all be so psyched!!

Hello all,

I hope you are all doing okay ❤️

I disapeared once again for a couple of weeks. I'll be honest here that I am struggling. My messages at times are probably obvious, I even feel bad for them, like I drag this thread down sometimes. The way I am coping is to stick my head in the sand and ignore it all. That's why I keep disappearing. Like running away from your problems, I focus on everything else. Because if I don't I fear how I will feel. I go along fine, things in life are better, but the real ache and want is getting worse and I am burying it for a brave face. The thought of letting go and feeling all the time how I do when AF comes horrifys me.

I am 8dpo. I have no hope really. I know I will get some hope in the coming days, its normal, but I don't believe it will actually happen at all. That isn't to be negative, I really just don't feel it will happen, I'd give anything to be wrong.

So I came back because I always think of you all, but lately I am in and out because I keep running away from myself and covering even to myself what I am doing.

Its been a tough couple of weeks with all This too, I've realised I haven't even allowed myself to acknowledge it. But I'm aware AF is less than a week away, I've seen three pregnancy announcements tonight and I've kind of faced what I've been doing and I wanted to check in with you all, and see how you all are Xx

@TheDaydreamBelievers I can't say they have worked for me, as my consultant said she believed I hadn't been ovulating at all in the past year, so its possible my body is just going through the motions (LH spike, temp increase and progesterone rise) but not actually releasing an egg. Or if I am releasing an egg they may not be very mature/good quality due to my PCOS.

But... my cycles have been much shorter with 'ovulation' potentially occurring on CD18/14 for the past three cycles (including this one). If you did decide to try them again then I would recommend starting now, in your LP so that the Conceive Plus starts effecting your egg production from early on xx

So glad they worked for you @Kay00. Sadly not effective for me over the 4mo I took them but maybe I should try again?

Other than that self doubt, my chart is awesome! If Ovulation happened on CD14 then woohoo! Amazing! I really do rate these Conceive Plus tablets.

@TheDaydreamBelievers oh, haha, yes I see! I'm OK thanks . FF thinks I'm 5DPO, and I genuinely didn't believe I had ovulated until this morning's temperature. But I still think its possible that my body 'thinks' I have ovulated, but I haven't actually managed it.

Hopefully @Kay00 - although it was definitely a "yesterdays DTD outcome or EWCM 🤔" query! How are you?

@TheDaydreamBelievers Or maybe ovulation is CD42, and you covered it? As you had EWCM on that day?

Thanks @crabette that's really interesting and good to know.

@TheDaydreamBelievers oh noooooo!!! Hopefully you caught it with DTD on the morning of ovulation (fingers crossed!!!)???

FF thinks I ovulated now. Which unfortunately means we missed it due to work stress 😭😭😭. First ovulation in about months and we missed jt

@crabette that's reassuring, thank you! I have to say I don't really understand it all! Thank you, your message made me feel better ❤

Hi ladies, I just popped on for a quick check in to see how you were all getting on.

@ChinChilly I'm so heartbroken for you 💔 Actually had a wee cry reading your message.

I'm glad the MVA went well.

Just for a little bit of reassurance on the RH front - like @Kay00 I'm also RH negative. It's generally fine and manageable as long as you have anti-D injections whenever there is a risk your blood and baby's blood mix. (For example, if I have any bleeding at all I need to go for an anti-D injection, and the same at labour, but otherwise they assume all fine.) So if you haven't had any bleeding, you should hopefully be fine on that front too in terms of your body not generating antibodies for future pregnancies.

Sending absolutely all of my love. x

@Kay00 I had a Anti-D injection today which stops you forming antibodies to RH+ blood as long as i haven't been sensitised already I think it's more manageable, I'm not sure if I'm honest it's abit of minefield from what I've briefly looked up. I think the highest risk is miscarriage in the second and third trimester, which is quite a scary thought. No appointment yet, I think it will be a few weeks before I hear anything.

@chinchilly I'm glad today went well, but sorry that you're getting cramps.

Thats interesting what they have said about your RH- blood type. I have the same (im AB- and my OH is A+), as did my mum. I think they can give you something to help with that? Hopefully the clinic will prescribe something. Do you have an appointment date yet?

My MVA went well and have to say the procedure was not painful, more uncomfortable, the cramps now are pretty intense now though and I was not prepared for the pain killers up the arse afterwards. Plot twist though I have an RH negative blood, OH is more than likely RH positive seen as 85% of the population are. They said it basically means any pregnancy I have where the fetus has a positive blood type my body will attack it, any future pregnancies will be classed as high risk and will need extra monitoring. The consultant recommended we didn't TTC until I've been seen by the recurrent miscarriage clinic so I guess I'll be taking a TTC break.

@Juno231 it sounds like fun now, but my feet will be bruised, swollen and covered in heat rash... and that's just at the end of day 1!

@ChinChilly well hopefully they do something about your TSH then and if that still doesn't work then perhaps a private DNA frag should be on the cards? Hopefully all it's been is tremendous bad luck though and nothing more sinister than that.

@kay00 ah that sounds like a lot of fun though - I hope I get to do it too one day!

@Kay00 I really hope so! You're walking sounds exhausting

@Juno231 I'm suprised they haven't suggested treating your thyroid as a first thing, it really frustrates me because it's easy and cheap to treat. I don't think we are even a candidate for IVF because it seems i can easily get pregnant, I just can't maintain the pregnancy.

Well I'm here waiting for this MVA, I need a nervous 💩 🤣

@Juno231 yeah, its 60 miles or 100K over 2 days. Start 8am day 1, walk for 9 hours, start 6am day 2, walk for another 9 hours. We have the option to camp in between, but my walking partners husband is driving us back and forth so we can eat proper meals, get baths and sleep in our own beds I have taken the Monday off work as I'm sure I will be fully disabled that day - haha!

@snow90 thank you! You too ☺️

@Juno231 yeah, I've heard that too, I've missed 2 AF's now, en route to missing my 3rd so when is it going to turn up hahaha doing my head in

@Elsie2021 remember that EWCM (ie oestrogen surges) and LH peaks only show your body is trying to ovulate, it very well might not be still.

@ChinChilly I know - I feel that way too. I saw someone on the subclinical hypothyroidism thread say they got prescribed levo for 3.1 TSH and that's exactly what I've got yet it keeps getting ignored by the NHS. Others are in the same unexplained infertility boat as me and are getting IUIs on the NHS yet my doc is dead against it? I feel like there's quite a few things left to look into yet I'm being ushered straight into the IVF box whilst banging my head against the wall.

@kay00 haha did you mean convenient! So is the total walk 60 miles over 2 days? I hope you have a fitbit cause you'd gain some epic badges with that!

@Elsie2021 yes I was getting positive OPKs and EWCM. The last cycle I had a few days of high temps then they started to drop back to pre ovulation temps.

@chinchilly I sincerely hope the recurrent miscarriages clinic are real experts who will test everything necessary xx

@juno231 it's a wall for Charity organised through work, raising money for GOSH. It might sound easy walking for two days, but it is essentially an ultra just we will be walking it. I can do 30 miles I one go, but my body suffers and im hobbling. I need to be able to wake up the next morning and walk another 30 miles! It's nuts!

On that note, it would actually be quite inconvenient if I fell pregnant this cycle as it would probably mean backing out of the walk 🙃

@Moocher90 I hope you don’t mind me asking, but with your tests that show you haven’t ovulated, have you been getting positive OPKs and EWCM etc?

Hope you are able to get answers soon xx

@Juno231 well I asked my GP to test it again about a month ago which she did and it came back as 3.9 and my T4 (i think it is) was on the lower end of normal, it was just marked as no further action. Tbh it's like banging my head against a brick wall with them, I've asked 3 times now and I'm just told it's normal and not to worry. I know they will test it again at the recurrent miscarriage clinic so maybe they will take it more seriously there