Post Pill Party - Cocktail Club

Seems I have nothing to worry about atm, DH says I am putting too much pressure on him and I doubt we are going to DTD today 😭

Yes I know I'm obsessed but I fell pregnant with Jack 2 cycles post pill so am determined to try my best this month as now in the same position with cycles since his birth. His due date has also just passed so feels okay to try again now.

Would I still be in with a chance if I DTD tomorrow and the day after, just not today?

We also DTD on the 23rd. I had no idea it would be this all consuming TTC after loss 🥺

Thankyou @Juno231 xx

@CharWils If you think alcohol will have an impact then surely it's best to cut it out today already :) Looks to me like you might ovulate tomorrow so well done for catching that peak!

@WhirlingD I'm so sorry, I totally missed your update. Please stay with us, you'll still get your baba but perhaps via slightly different avenue. I'd also love to learn all about your HRT etc as we will all be in that boat with you one day. Big hugs xxx

Thanks @Kay00 that's helpful.

Would you class the TWW starting from today or tomorrow? Assume tomorrow as that is likely to be the ovulation day?

Basically if I want to avoid alcohol which I do for the TWW this time would you start today or tomorrow? I know I'm prob thinking too much into this but expected I think! Xx

@CharWils It looks pretty strong to me, but your app only puts it at 86% so it might meant that your peak is imminent, keep testing, a few more times today/tomorrow, and hopefully you'll see a peak tonight or tomorrow, and yes I would say you will likely ovulate in the next day or two... exciting!

Ref drinking alcohol, I have ready reports that it doesn't matter too much in the earliest stages (they say to drink until its pink!), but its probably best to refrain from getting really drunk. But I can completely understand your anxieties, so if it helps relax you (and being relaxed I think is the important bit here) then you could cut down on alcohol and caffeine during your TWW

Ladies I think I have finally got my peak, thoughts?
Would you say this should mean I will ovulate tomorrow?
What would you do regarding drinking alcohol and caffeine etc in the TWW? Would you not drink from tomorrow or tonight?
I didn't give much thought to it when I fell pregnant with Jack and drank within the TWW a couple of times but this time I'm obviously desperate to all go okay and actually falling pregnant again would be a start!
Any advice appreciated? Xx

@WhirlingD I'm so sorry and hope you find a way through this with treatment xx

@Kat668 the digitals are super not worth the money. Literally 1 in 4 of those tests have errors for me and I'm dipping so not flooding them or anything.

I'm CD33 and aimlessly going up and down on my chart as usual.

@WhirlingD I'm so sorry. Thinking of you and hoping appropriate treatment can be offered 🌺

I'm 12dpo today and excitedly went to take my test after forcing myself to wait, then it didn't work! Just have me an error symbol. 😭 its the only test we have in the house and I'm actually more upset about this than I would be about a negative for some reason! I went OTT and actually timed the seconds on my phone to ensure I did the right amount and yet get the error. Don't know what I did wrong :( I don't know when my period is due so I was using the CB digital early response and so I have to use it with the first wee so need to wait till tomorrow and get some more now :(

Sorry rant over! Hope you're all OK x

@WhirlingD I'm so sorry 😞 it sounds like you've got a good plan and you're on top of things! So glad your DP is being super supportive.

@WhirlingD oh hun I'm so sorry, huge hugs from me xxx I think your plan to try to use your remaining eggs is a damn good one, and its probably what I would do if I was in your situation xx Please hang around, we will be here with you through your journey xx

Interestingly I have a friend who is my age (36), who has recently given birth to her 1st child (she got pregnant on her first try - lucky her!) talking about how no one has a right to tell a woman her is 'running out of time' when she hits her 30s, as clearly she was able to conceive so easily at 36. And whilst I agree with her, that no one should be telling a woman to hurry up and have kids, or even to have kids at all, I do think there should be more information available about how difficult it can be to get pregnant due to the many conditions that a couple might develop (PCOS/Premature Ovarian Failure/Poor Sperm Quality/Thyroid issues etc etc).

@WhirlingD I'm so sorry to hear your news.

I hope your remaining eggs are good ones and you get your bfp one day.

@Kay00 glad to see your hycosy went well. That's great news especially the high amh and no blockages. Mine is on Sunday and slightly nervous.

At least I know what to expect as you've given so much detail so thanks.

@WhirlingD so sorry to read your news. There's a really active ABC/Create Facebook page you might want to join. Xx

@WhirlingD sorry about your news life is so cruel at times :( I’m so glad you have taken positives from it and sound like you have a plan of action which is great x I really hope the remaining eggs you have are successful and you get a BFP in the near future xx it’s also great to hear that your partner is very supportive.

I think all of us on here are kicking ourselves who are over 30 about not freezing our eggs. I know I wish I had. I’m nearly a year TTC and wasn’t ovulating every cycle. Got overactive thyroid and hashimotos which I need to get under control but feels like a lifetime away before it will happen for me

Well the results confirm premature ovarian failure. The AMH of 0.36 was tough to hear, even though I had prepared myself. I didn't cry when the Dr told me but I did cry when my private medical insurance told me they didn't cover it as it was a "normal body process". Nice.

I'm fortunate in that I have savings and a supportive partner. He has been my rock this past week. So it could be worse.

I need to deal with the medical side of things (hormone replacement) and the fertility side of things. @Kay00 is a woman after my own heart and so I now have an electronic notebook for both things, and am reading scientific papers and identifying leading experts. I've bought some DHEA because, well, I can't make it any worse!! Going for an IVF consultation at create. I may only have about 3 eggs left but might try some natural IVF before I give up and go to donor eggs.

@Juno231 am kicking myself for not egg freezing. And for not coming off the pill earlier. And for not leaving my useless ex husband earlier. But hey ho, can't live life with regrets!

So if you don't mind, I'll keep lurking. I like you ladies very much and I'm not hanging in the towel just yet! I might just have another period! Or even ovulate. Xxx

@juno231, that's true, I have had a lot of charts with super low 'post ov' temps, so I can totally see how they would have been annovulatory, and I have often wondered that myself.

In the 12 months since I came of the pill I think I have possibly only ovulated 4 or 5 times based on significant temp increases (i'm quite sad about that really), but two of those have been in the last two cycles (so... an improvement?). I really think the Conceive Plus tablets are helping... but I need to decide whether to try the Metformin or not. Urgh, I can't decide!

@kay00 I'd guess you were ovulating the last couple of times but most of your ovulatory charts prior to that had super low temp rises no? So could have been annovulatory as well potentially.

@WhirlingD and absolutely carry on DTD - plenty of ladies still manage to conceive even when they are in perimenopause (which we don't know if you are in yet - fx)

If I ever have a girl I might suggest egg freezing age 25 just in case lol - I've seen too many horror stories on MN now!

@whirlingD no, I didn't ask but wish I had, as I'm really unsure whether I have been ovulating. Certainly my temp increases indicate that I have but my AMH levels suggest I haven't 🤷‍♀️

Well done for doing some research, I keep a book for all the research I do into my many projects (TTC being one of them lol) and I feel very accomplished when I make some progress 😊

Definitely keep at it, it only takes one egg and one sperm xx fingers crossed you ovulate soon! Xx

Thanks for the write up @Kay00. Really helpful. Was there an explanation for your temperature increases if you hadn't been ovulating?

I'm still awaiting my AMH. I have another call with the doctor tomorrow. In the meantime I've been making myself busy researching IVF and calling clinics. I do love a bit of research. I feel better now that I'm doing something. I will book a private consultation once I get my AMH result.

Flat temps for me and tons of EWCM. CD50. Now half way towards the length of cycle 1 post-pill :( Also had the most positive OPK to date. Unfortunately I think these are all symptoms of perimenopause. But then again if you Google something for long enough you will convince yourself of almost anything.

Ploughing on ahead with DTD. it's not over till it's over.

@Kay00 glad to hear the appointment was informative and also your partners SA came back all good.

@thedaydreambelievers it's private but I believe it would be exactly the same if I had been referred through the NHS. But I'm happy to have gone private as I got things moving more quickly, and the HyCoSy only costs £380 (SA was £105 and initial consultation was £180).

thanks for all the recommenations on when to start using the ovulation strips I think for this first go I'll aim early. better order some more!

@Kay00 glad SA came back okay and that the appointment was informative and that you have some next steps to follow.

@Kay00 so glad your appointment went well and they are moving forward 😀

@kay00 this is so helpful, thank you. Can you remind me if this is private or NHS?

@MissC07 doesn't that mean you can get pregnant as soon as you join? It basically says you have to have worked 26 weeks by the time you're 25 weeks pregnant?

@kay00 I'm so glad your tubes are not blocked and that they are getting the ball rolling on clomid. And yay for good SA!!