Post Pill Party - Cocktail Club

Made us a new thread since we are near full! Went for a summery theme www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/4298366-Post-Pill-Party-Pool-Party?watched=1

@WhirlingD I'm so sorry you lost your mum when she was so young.
Do you have any sisters that have had an ok time conceiving? I don't know the genetics of it apparently POF is more bad luck than genetics though.
How are you coping with your partner? Is he supportive with your decisions.
Well that's good news that maybe your hormones have had a reboot. There still apparently is a 10% chance of conceiving naturally with actual POF and yours sounds very much like a question mark just now

@Carolinesturn I had terrible hot flushes and night sweats when I first came off the pill. I feel really well now and my oestrogen is now through the roof high (just called docs) so perhaps I've got into some sort of hormonal rebound!

I feel happier since I've cut down on googling.

It looks like POF (as I'm 38 and have autoimmune diseases in the family) but diagnosis requires 2 elevated FSH levels and it looks like mine are still fluctuating. My mum died pre-40 and was really ill beforehand so we can't use that as a predictor of menopausal age.

I favour going abroad for donor eggs since there is virtually no waiting list. I'm sick of waiting.

@WhirlingD
I'm so sorry to hear about you fsh levels. Did you have any other symptoms other than missed periods?
It's very easy to be lulled into a false sense of security by people saying 'just give it time, it'll happen'!!
Where are you going for looking into egg donors?
So I phoned the GP a couple of hours ago and she told me that my hormones were settling after the pill, however it's like you say, the pill should be out our system in days not weeks/months so what is it that makes our hormones sky high?
Have you been diagnosed with POF or are you in perimenapouse?
My GP left me with the following advice which is
Bin the tests... all of them
Stop googling
Chart my periods
Breathing exercises
Wait....
Not really helping my mental state but I'll try.

@Carolinesturn yes I read that article too! 100 days after coming off microgynon, I miraculously had a period. My day 3 FSH was 13 which wasn't terrible. After another 50 days with no period, my FSH tested at 77 (!!!) with an AMH of 0.36 to seal the deal
of premature menopause. I'm a month on from that, with no period. I had my bloods re-done a couple of days ago. Scared to see what they'll be!!

Everything I read told me that the pill is out of your system quickly and that it only masks underlying problems. I ignored that and was convinced I was messed up by the pill and that all would be fine. But knowing what I know now, I do think it was just masking a problem!

Loving all the camping pics. I am also camping in Northern Ireland this summer!

@TheDaydreamBelievers @Kay00 I came off the pill 3 years ago to ttc then had a wobble and went back on it for 1-1 1/2 years, totally kicking myself for that now. Ahh that's annoying with amazon not being able to fulfil your order, can you get them from anywhere else?

I jealous of all your beautiful views!

@juno231 amazing pics!! So beautiful 😍 we are camping in the Mendips, which has been lovely. Last day today though.

You're right, my cycles have been much better but I'm attributing that to the Conceive plus ovulation support which contains CoQ10 etc. Unfortunately Amazon were unable to fulfil my order so I have run out... and I'm already on CD3 without them. Not sure it this cycle will play ball.

I also feel the same as @chinchilly and @thedaydreambelievers. My OH and I have been together for nearly 18 years and I'm 36 now. We left it way too long and I'm annoyed about that (I mention it too him far too regularly 😅), but we lived in a tiny 1 bed flat before we moved into our current 4 bed, and before that we lived in different cities for a few years, so we just weren't in the position to try until now. Ah well!

@pineapple2021 I've done parts of the NC500 too (v jealous of @Juno231 being there in this weather!).

We were at applecross last year. The bealach na ba is spectacular but you'll need to be a relatively confident campervan driver for it. If you like a hike theres a 2 hr corbett at the top of it that has spectacular views.

@Juno231 totally unrelated to the thread but saw your pics..... we're doing the same in a camper in 4 weeks for our honeymooon. Any beach or anything recommendations?!

@WhirlingD I'm so sorry to hear that, that's frustrating for you as you've been together for so many years but try not to regret... how could you possibly know. Did your mum go through early menopause?
I'm going to speak to my GP today but I'm almost a little frightened to, I only can find bad things online except for one article that says FSH can be elevated after sustained pill use... but that's just one article. I have no other symptoms apart from lack of ewcm and brown spotting 3/4 days before my proper period.
Thanks for your help

I feel similar to @ChinChilly. We have been together over a decade and 32yrs old. Turns out getting and staying pregnant much harder than we thought.

@Carolinesturn unfortunately I found out I was going through premature menopause when I came off the pill at the start of the year to try for my first child. It has been a heartbreaking couple of months but I’m trying not to have regrets. I simply wasn’t in the right place to try for children earlier. I have appointments booked with various specialists over the next month or so and then I expect I’ll go straight to donor egg IVF, which I am actually OK with. I just desperately want the opportunity to carry and raise a child and hopefully this will enable me to do that.

@Carolinesturn I certainly wish I had started earlier, I'm 30 next month and have been with OH for 13 years this year so I'm not entirely sure what we have been waiting for

Thank you @WhirlingD for that, it's put my mind at ease a bit, there was no mention of a day on the test just that I should try again in a week to 'confirm' my results.
I'm sorry to hear about your early menopause, do you have children? We all wish we started younger. I'm really angry at myself for not starting younger and irrationally angry at my DP too for not finding me sooner... how crazy is that.
Got a gp call booked for tomorrow's maybe they will put my mind at ease further!

@Juno231 do you mean the Covid jab? No I had that in May. I had the Hycosy so wondering if that affected it.

That beach looks stunning!

@Carolinesturn I wouldn't worry about it too much as it seems they aren't very accurate but speak to your gp to put your mind at rest.

@Carolinesturn it would be positive mid-cycle. Nothing to worry about. They go positive at about 40 and that's normal mid cycle levels. It's only accurate as a menopause test on day 2-3 as follicular phase levels should be lower.

Unfortunately I know a fair bit about this as I am perimenopausal at 38

@Juno231 views are amazing, hope you're having a fab time!

@Carolinesturn I'm not sure about the FSH, I've had mine checked but I can't remeber what the number was. I think seen as your only 7 weeks off the pill i would take it all with a pinch of salt, it takes soo long for everything to settle down. I didn't get much EWCM for a few months after stopping the people some people have success with more ewcm by drinking grapefruit juice or taking evening primrose oil, only take thw epo upto ovulation though.

@Carolinesturn did it not come with any instructions? Everyone has fsh in their system so it being positive sounds... Useless? Hopefully it's just a crap test. Also I'm pretty sure you're mean to test it at CD 2-3 as it needs to be baseline.

@Tillybabs you didn't have a jab this cycle did you? But yeah I get the odd longer LP sometimes, I still haven't figured that one out. I'm in Northern Scotland - that beach is Sango sands and I'm sleeping at Balnakeil Beach tonight - pic attached!

@Tillybabs
Thank you, I didn't even want the bloody tests but they came free with the temp thing so I thought what the hell. I'm only 7 weeks off the pill and have had a period but had brown spotting 4 days before so I know that's a sign. I also get v little Ewcm. I'm very upset about this result, going to try and speak to gp tomorrow

@Carolinesturn I don't know much about the fsh home tests but this might help. It advised not to use the home ones.

www.verywellfamily.com/at-home-fsh-and-menopause-fertility-tests-1960169

I'm having a MAJOR melt down, I just ordered an opk and temp kit from ebay and it came with an FSH test, I've never even heard of this test but apparently it's to test to see if you are peri menopausal. Anyway I'm 1dpo and it came back positive!!! What does this mean, I'm 32 and it didn't cross my mind I could be peri menopausal

@Juno231 AF arrived today so I get a had a longer LP?

Where are you? That beach looks beautiful 😍

@kay00 sorry AF showed :/ I'm glad you got the ball rolling on metformin though and your cycles seem so much better lately!

@CharWils low progesterone for short LPs but I have yet to hear of a doctor willing to do anything to prolong it. At most they seem okay with prescribing progesterone to start with once you have had your bfp in case it's causing early miscarriages but that wasn't a problem with Jack :/

@Tillybabs the only thing I can think of is that femometer is wrong in its calcs? I find it a lot less reliable than FF personally.

I'm campervaning the NC500 ladies so am being a bit quiet atm :) I've attached a pic of my current location!

@ChinChilly Hi, thanks for the reply. I still have my periods, they have just gotten lighter. I don't know whether they will just stay regular or I will have some kind of withdrawal bleed or earlier period once I have stopped taking it. Next week should be my fertlie window, I have bought some OPK's although I've never used them. Just wanting to see if ovulation occurs or returns. I may stop a few days before then, hopefully it will hold off while I'm away and can start getting my regular period back (although I'm scared of the increased pain and heaviness lol ). I have endometriosis and adenomyosis so the pill I think helps to reduce my pain xx