To think people are nuts for not having kids for environmental reasons?

I only have one. The primary reasons being : pretty much hated the first 4 yrs and had awful PND. Can't risk that again.

Having said that, the planet is clearly overpopulated. I think reducing the number of kids a person has is sensible

@SantiagoSky
Here are the temperature anomalies over the years, what we are seeing now has never happened before:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T_comp_61-90.pdf

Oh, but it has happened before it just hasn’t happened in the last 1,000 yrs because that is as far back as the chart goes and Wikipedia talks about in your link. You need to zoom out and see the larger picture. The Earth has been warmer before, from 5,000 to 3,000 BC temperatures were 1-2C warmer than today.

I think it's a perfectly good reason. To see beyond yourself to the bigger picture is a commendable thing.

If it's the truth or not, only they know and tbh it really doesn't matter. It's their choice.

I respect people who do this so much!
I do think the we are slowly draining the world of its resources which will end in hunger and suffering for future generations
The short term thinking of some of the people on here are shocking -every action has a consequence and I think in the UK we live in such a bubble that its hard to imagine the suffering caused by our actions (including myself)

I think OP is underestimating the moral code of some people..
Its a perfect valid reason to not have a baby - one of my best friends is like this - only wants to work for charities, live minimally, zero waste, etc.
She gets no hassle from her parents, friends or the people she surrounds herself with, she is happy is adopt instead when the time comes

They're probably sick to death of being asked why they don't have them, and have come up with the environment as the least personal reason to give, and hopefully shut people up.If it wasn't expected that women justify the decision not to have children, this wouldn't happen.If someone tells me they have two children, I say 'that's nice, what are their names?' I don't say 'why did you have them? Aren't you worried you'll change your mind? Suppose your mother doesn't want to be a granny?

This!

This isn't just about parents thinking that though. Childfree people can also question other's motives for not having children.

But they probably don't feel the need ask, never mind question, their motives @humanaHey It's only the childburdened that feel the need to justify their life decision by questioning the motives of the childfree.

[quote LewishamMum]@Iceniii
I'm just cynical whether that's the real reason or not....as per my original post.
I'm not denying the environmental consequences.[/quote]
They're probably sick to death of being asked why they don't have them, and have come up with the environment as the least personal reason to give, and hopefully shut people up.

If it wasn't expected that women justify the decision not to have children, this wouldn't happen.

If someone tells me they have two children, I say 'that's nice, what are their names?' I don't say 'why did you have them? Aren't you worried you'll change your mind? Suppose your mother doesn't want to be a granny?'

[quote LewishamMum]@Iceniii
I'm just cynical whether that's the real reason or not....as per my original post.
I'm not denying the environmental consequences.[/quote]
But some people really care about the environment and the Earth.

@MMMarmite

I don't think they're nuts. I think the projections for the future at the moment are pretty terrifying, when you really research it.

Humans are hypocrites I guess.

Maybe they don't want children for environmental reasons? Why would it mattter to you that they declare this unless you feel that they are having a dig at people who have had children?

If you've had children, it impacts on the environment. They turn into consumers. You can't deny this. Maybe, if we education our children they will solve the issues most adults can't be arsed to. Own the fact that you've made a decision that could have a negative impact to the Earth. Its one of many.

Yeah, I never believe people when they say this.

Either they just don't really want kids, or they will find a good reason to have a baby when they want one.

Shock horror, parent has difficulty understanding someone else's point of view who chooses to be childfree. The reasons don't really matter do they?

Here are the temperature anomalies over the years, what we are seeing now has never happened before: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T_comp_61-90.pdf

The amount of effects depends on how quickly we will be able to decarbonize. If we do it by 2050 then the average temperature rise will be between 1,5 and 2 degrees which will still mean that extreme weather events will happen more often than they do now. If we don't do anything that will result in 4 degrees.

The south of the UK will be more affected. You can check for your area here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-d6338d9f-8789-4bc2-b6d7-3691c0e7d138

However the global developments will also be relevant, keep in mind that most of the food consumed in the UK is produced elsewhere and many other dependencies exist.

I can't help thinking a lot of them just don't want kids (which is fine), and are trying to come up with a good/virtue signalling reason for this.

Agree.

I tend to think they are people on the fence about having dc anyway so it isn’t a great sacrifice if it isn’t something you are fussed about.
Sometimes they are also very young and passionate and are in just not at the stage of live where they feel the want for dc so that may change in time.

The global fertility rate has been going down for years. In fact, it's halved in the last 50 years. Environmentalists need not worry, most people are finding it harder and harder to afford having more than 1 child or any children at all.

It may be a problem, but what are you proposing?!

Well nothing , jist pointing out a fact.

I think it’s because society in general is quite disapproving of women who don’t want children. So it’s easier to come up with an external reason to shut down the discussion about whether you are unnatural, selfish, lazy, cold hearted etc.