Soy Isoflavones..yay or nay?

@choccrumpet when I had ib it was like that most of the time, 🤞🏻 for you.

I'm not sure what to do now, temp went down again this morning so still no ovulation and just had my scan results and they've said I have adenomyosis which means I prob do have endo aswell and it's going to be incredibly hard to get pg (explains why we've been ttc for 3 years) and even if I do it's a higher risk of mc or not going to term 😢

@Marvellouslymadmum you're covering your basis so I'm really hoping it happens soon for you. Don't forget to look after yourself too x

I'm not really sure, it was like a diluted / lighter red and not a pink or brown like I've seen others mention. But I haven't had it since so hopefully all good.

@choccrumpet @Slk3558 it's so frustrating! We will try to continue dtd I just hope ovulation happens soon!

@choccrumpet it could be implantation bleeding, I had this with one of my pregnancies

@Slk3558 I'm not surprised! Hopefully the progesterone is helping and doing what it needs to do.

I'm 5DPO today and had a bit of blood when I wiped. I've never spotted before my period so unsure what this is, trying not to worry. I haven't had it since which I take as a positive. Anyone had anything similar before?

@Slk3558 that's great news!

Thanks @choccrumpet. I’m still more petrified than I’ve ever been!! I think it’s cause I want this so bad.

@Marvellouslymadmum that is frustrating especially when temping is supposed to take the confusion out of ttc.

Mine went up a day after my LH surge and then went back down to pre ov temps the day after and then spiked again the next day. It’s funny when I don’t get the answer I want from temping I start convincing myself ‘maybe temping isn't always accurate’.

I deffo understand how frustrating it is to have a confusing cycle . I had 10 days of ewcm for the last two cycles which is obviously not normal.. have faith and as long as you dtd every couple of days you’re at least covering your bases.

@Slk3558 glad to hear you're doing okay!

@Marvellouslymadmum that's really frustrating, I'm sorry ☹️

@Slk3558 that's great news! Everything crossed for you!!

I'm back in limbo land lol my temp went up before the last peak stayed up for a day and now went back down a little bit they still haven't been as high as normal so who knows what's going on now!!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 @Marvellouslymadmum thanks .. I’ve done another frer yesterday and It was a lot darker. I’m praying this one sticks. Xx

@Slk3558 that's great that you got the progesterone ok! 🤞🏻 for you

@Slk3558 that's awesome you got hold of some and the spotting has stopped. Might as well wait for first urine tomorrow. Good luck x

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I managed to get progesterone, I got through to EPU after 1 hour of calling and had to beg the senior doctor and she said she would be willing to trial it . I got the prescription 5 mins before the pharmacy closed yesterday. The spotting seems to have stopped after taking 2 pessaries so far, I haven’t done another test as I’m scared the line won’t have progressed.

@choccrumpet I've heard really good things about Symprove! I had a parasite thing (h pylori) picked up from travelling and it destroyed my stomach. I did the ten day course after all of the antibiotics and treatments and the constant nausea, reflux, upset stomach etc went.

@Slk3558 if your line is stronger that's confusing, and hopefully definitely not a chemical. Did you get through the the Drs to get some more progesterone? Maybe you could ask them. Hope you're okay, hopefully it's implantation bleeding pretty some weird effect from the cream

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 amazing I'll have a look at those thank you!

@Slk3558 it's quite normal to spot in early pregnancy, I did in my last one.

@choccrumpet sometimes when it really flares up we end up cutting out caffeine (which he's not on now anyway with ttc) dairy and gluten and that seems to do it but it's hard going!

@Marvellouslymadmum I take the same, they definitely help but unsure if they're as good as Symprove which I was on before but is fairly expensive to keep up.
You're doing all the right things for now at least!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I haven't heard of those, sounds interesting to only take 5 or 10 days a year.

@Slk3558 when is your period due? Hopefully it's just old blood as it's brown. Could you speak to your doc or contact epu at this point? Hopefully all is okay!

I had a bit of brown discharge before and feeling a bit crampy..hope this is not the start of a chemical .. I did a test earlier and it was darker than yesterday but I’ve never spotted at this DPO with previous BFPs ☹️

Would recommend Elixa probiotics for a one off course, just five days or ten days a year. They really sorted me out www.elixa-probiotic.com/uk/

@choccrumpet he takes acidophilus which are supposed to be good, he was on the 3billion friendly bacteria but we've just upped it to 5 billion.

I've got a referral to gynaecologist in august for fertility and going to speak to them about the endo then, the doc thinks it's that so hopefully they'll do a laparoscopy then offer me clomid 🤞🏻 may give the aspirin a try though and if anything works (highly unlikely with 3.2 years ttc) then the lap can wait! Chances are it's endo and making it harder to conceive but we will see

@Marvellouslymadmum that is really tough. Has he tried probiotics? I find they really help me (although my cycle can make it worse at times and nothing helps that really).

Apparently our periods are meant to be bright red and good flow throughout without any symptoms. Who knew 🤦🏼‍♀️ maybe you should try acupuncture on top of everything else 🙃 (joking - ttcing is ridiculous). Your symptoms might be to do with endo then? Aspirin shouldn't hurt to try 🤞🏼 but don't think it'll help with the blood flow long term

@choccrumpet it's awful for him, he can be both ibs-c or d just depends and he gets so much pain with it! It better be it if I think this month may get written off!

Mine is mega heavy and very clotty for the first 2 days then usually light day three then spotting fir 1-7 days! I get really bad pain too abdo and lower back and lot of other symptoms which could be endo but I could try the aspirin and see if that helps!

@Marvellouslymadmum oh no, I feel for him, it's not fun!

Yay for dye stealer, this sounds like it might be the real thing finally 🤞🏼 I bet you'll both be delighted to have a bit of a break!

@Slk3558 ive got mild IBS but probably lean towards IBS-D and you might be right about the progesterone! It's never been this bad so maybe that's a sign of increased progesterone? Who knows what's caused this. It normally gets worse during my period but not really before. It's a massive pain (literally) during running though, I don't know how to cope with that 🙈

Re aspirin I've taken it twice from around ovulation/fertile week, have done a fair bit of research about it and yes people say to take it differently but I have heard of specialists recommending from ovulation and I'm sure some say from BFP. At the end of the day you try whichever way you're most comfortable with @Marvellouslymadmum I didn't have any side effects from it and my period was a little more flowy than normal but not massively.

My acupuncturist said that because my period can start and stop on the first day and having a few clots suggests the blood isn't flowing as well as it should be. I didn't ask but wonder if that means my blood is a little stickier and aspirin could have a positive affect. May be they are signs to look out for in your own periods? That's not scientific though, rather my own conclusion

@Slk3558 5)3 now progesterone is the one I've been looking too! It's funny some people say about the baby aspirin from ovulation and some say not until you get a bfp thinking I may just give them both a go!

@choccrumpet I always get a bit upset stomach after ov, it’s due to the rise in progesterone. I have IBS too suffer with constipation a lot especially when AF comes as hormones are at all time low. Xx

@Marvellouslymadmum thanks 🙏hopefully this will be the final surge for you and then you can relax after ov.

It was through a US vitamin site I bought the websites own brand cause it was cheaper but I’ve reordered ‘now progesterone’ as this is quite well known.

www.luckyvitamin.com/p-5534162-luckytru-progesterone-cream-unscented-3-oz.

All the creams are reasonable priced in US but you have to pay DHL delivery fee I think it was £6 fee and it comes in about 7-10days and you can track it in transit x

I took the baby asprin from ovulation. from what I’ve ready it’s after ovulation that blood supply can get a bit slow due to all the blood flowing to and from the corpus luteum.

@Slk3558 amazing! Congratulations so good to see the bfps here. What brand of progesterone cream were you using as I'm thinking of trying that next month, did you take the baby aspirin all month too?

@choccrumpet my oh is having ibs issues at the moment too but the opposite problem to you and he's started going to the gym the last couple of weeks too!

Apparently it's ovulation day again 😂🤦🏼‍♀️ last few days Lh has gone lower and lower then today total dye stealer positive, more positive than I've ever got on a strip before! It's cd28 temp 36.45 again today so 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 hoping it'll go up the next few days. My apps have all changed again but most of them think af was due a couple of days ago or today so keep telling me to test 🙄 got to persuade the oh to dtd today again now 🙈