Soy Isoflavones..yay or nay?

I'm on CD17 and still nothing. My ewcm only lasted a day, have had it on / off but not consistently. If I peak in the next day or 2 it's a day or 2 earlier than last cycle and I guess that'll be good but I'm not sure it'll happen that way.

Sadly I don't think soy has helped bring my ovulation forward. I'm really struggling mentally with all of this so unsure if I'll take them again, I haven't seen many people talk about it lengthening their cycle so I'm not sure what is best to do. Has anyone got experienced this?

I may have to stop all of this and do a few cycles without anything if I can't get out of this sad place in the next few weeks.

@TheHotelCalifornia as they say they're 40mg per capsular I'm sure they're fine. It'll probably bring your ov forward just maybe not all the way on first go,

CD14 here and nothing, did cheapie OPKs a couple of days and did the first cb digital this morning which was low. I’m a bit gutted but I ovulated on CD27/26 previously so i guess I can’t expect miracles. I’m worried that I somehow bought the wrong ones, I bought these: SOYA Isoflavones 3000mg, 6000mg Daily Dose. 120 Vegan Capsules, 2 Months Supply www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y395PW7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_BV1HR8GZ3KKXE9H9WD2A?tag=mumsnetforu03-21 they have 40MG of SI per capsule so I think they’re ok? I took 120, 160, 160, 200, 200 days 2-6. I guess I just need to wait and see. Hope everyone’s doing okay xxx

I'm cd16 here and got my peak yesterday so today/tomorrow is probably ov day 🤞🏻🤞🏻 I might try maca next couple of months if this doesn't work and alternate lol

On CD3 today and taking my first SI of my 2nd round. Gonna do days 3-7 this month. I think if it doesn't work this cycle then I will try one more time and then give up on it. 3 cycles is enough I think.

Not sure if I should take the EPO and B6 again, or if I should take one and not the other.

@Riverskye sorry that's rubbish. Hopefully its not your period coming though

I decided to take a test yesterday at 12dpo and it was a very obvious bfn. Having really strong cramps today which sadly means AF is probably right around the corner. I took on days 2-6 for the last 2 cycles so I'm thinking of taking later on my next.

@acaciabluebell yes I've heard about b6 and epo (I'm taking both) changing things it's frustrating as we take them to help then don't know which one isn't!

My ovulation is definitely later this month -
Last month soy 2-6 ov cd12
This month soy 3-7 no ov yet and on cd14

I think it'll be peak tomorrow so ov could be tomorrow or Sunday 🤷🏼‍♀️

Thanks everyone! Ooh I hadn't thought about soy changing your cycle length but at least it's gone in the right direction for me. I'm going to start with soy on day 3 this month x

@RoseGold24 I’d probably chalk the longer luteal phase to the soy also. Mine has lengthened on it, and I am ovulating earlier, on both cycles I’ve taken it now. I was taking the b vitamins anyway for previous cycles with no effect, so for me I think it’s the soy.

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 it was light spotting in the evening. Full flow today, so maybe it was a 10 day LP, but that's still shorter than my usual 11 days. I've just spoken with another girl who had her LP shorten in her first cycle of B6 but then it got longer the cycle after that...not sure if I should continue for another cycle just to see

@Marvellouslymadmum Yeah I tracked my ovulation so I'm pretty certain about it. I ovulated earlier on CD14 and and got my period 9 days later

@RoseGold24 and @acaciabluebell really sorry your periods have arrived 😢

@acaciabluebell that’s really strange, but a shorter luteal phase doesn’t sound ideal. Did you go straight into flow or spotting first? I don’t know if I’d take it again if it had that effect on me because our goal was lengthening. But really annoying if you could feel yourself ovulating well etc x

@acaciabluebell sorry af came, soy can change your ovulation day slightly so it's probably down to that. Did you check opk or bbt to confirm Ov day? Epo and b6 can also alter your cycles

@RoseGold24 it probably is the soy, it's known to change cycles slightly so definitely a good thing that it's longer just annoying that it arrived at all!

Or maybe it's because I was taking so many new things at the same time. Soy Iso, vitamin B6 and evening primrose oil. Only the SI seems to have worked

Thanks @RoseGold24. That's so good to hear that it extended your LP. Total opposite for me, I think maybe SI just isn't good for me or something. I have heard that it can mess up cycles for people who have 'normal' cycles. But it's weird because I really did feel like I ovulated nicely on SI. It was day 14, I had strong cramps etc. Just my LP has gone messed up. I'm not sure if I should try it again and this time take it days 3-7, or just not take it at all.

Sorry to hear that @acaciabluebell Fingers crossed for the next cycle x

Well AF arrived... but Instead of 7dpo, I had spotting at 11dpo and AF at 12dpo. So a 28 day cycle and that's a positive I guess! I doubt it's anything to do with soy but just thought I'd update for anyone else with a short LP.

Hey everyone. No good news over here unfortunately... I've just got AF on 10dpo 😔 I was so shocked. Never had AF this early before. Normally come on 12-13dpo. Feeling really shit now

@Riverskye 👋! It was the other thread that helped me when I started them. Exciting that you can test soon!

I'm 1dpo now, so second cycle on soy made me ovulate same as last month (CD 14).

@hopingforababyh exactly as @Marvellouslymadmum said, I wouldn't be too worried either. Was very early on

@hopingforababyh oooh congratulations! So pleased for you! 🤞🏻 for a sticky bean. I wouldn't worry about the hot tub as it would've been before implantation. You usually work out your due date from the date of the last af there are some due date calculators online

Hi @Riverskye and welcome, sounds like soy may have helped shorten your cycle this month so that's good!

Popping over from a different thread, so exciting seeing everyone's soy experiences here! I'm on my second soy cycle, I took 160mg on 2-6 and have been charting bbt. Currently on CD57 but my last cycle was over 70 days, my chart suggests that I ovulated on CD46 so I may be 11dpo... just waiting to test. I've been really crampy and bloaty for a couple of weeks so keep expecting AF every day!

Hmmm ok, I’m going to stick at the 100mg this time. I have capsules that are 250g and say they are 40% soy isoflavones so that’s 100mg, fingers crossed! X

@Twiggywinkle13 I have this saved in my notes as was going to take CD3-7 next month! Not sure if any help for you!

@hopingforababyh a digital too! Amazing!! I cannot wait to hopefully have the same. Keeping everything crossed. I have no clue about working that out but someone definitely will.

I’m on day 6 of soy, I’ve taken 100mg, do I take another and go for 200mg today and tomorrow for day 7? Or keep it at 100mg?