TTC 35+ Thread 7

@KG1145 that's what my partner suffers with - health anxiety! He gets anxiety for other reasons but majorly over health and sometimes panic attacks too 😕

@Fredsmama sorry just saw this (this thread moves so fast) but I wanted to say that I truly admire your strength for enduring such a loss at 26 weeks and your first...

@KG1145 sorry you had to go through that. Panic attacks are goddam awful. So is anxiety 😅 I would say give CBT a try. If it doesn’t help, it won’t hurt, you know?

Just a correction - only because it’s been 8 years and my memory fails me sometimes - but Escitalopram (Cipralex) and not Citalopram. 2 letters but makes all the difference. My bad!

@sickofthisyear CBT is great! Did you receive it for anxiety as well? And as for B6 and the rest of my vitamins, I take them daily!

@Fredsmama so sorry to hear of your loss, must be devastating at such a late stage 😔 good that you had support though.

@thislittlebird if you're worried I'd definitely call and check but I'm sure it'll be ok

@Twelvestars I haven't but it's something I'm definitely keen on my partner trying, think it would do him the world of good! I'm going to start rattling with the amount of vitamins I'm taking!

@sickofthisyear I've only started my b6 yesterday but I was thinking whole month, I'm cd2 here too

@Marvellouslymadmum that’s great your partner is doing well on Sertraline! yes you know with antidepressants it’s also a very personalized experience. What works for one person might not work for another.

@Loladoodle I’ve been worrying about this new 22 day cycle thing but my consultant didn’t seem too concerned since I ovulate day 10/11. I wasn’t entirely convinced but now more reassured by your experience! So there’s hope haha! I recently started with magnesium and B6 (one pill together). I take waaaaaaaay too vitamins it’s so funny! I’m guessing like most ladies here 😅

Also @thislittlebird and anyone here, have you tried CBT? Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. I received CBT counseling over a period of time (also during 2011/12) and though I was skeptical at first, I cannot stress how life altering it was...

@thislittlebird I don’t remember the Citalopram dose cause it was back in 2012. Most probably 10 mg. But I remember within weeks feeling significantly better and more robust and just a year later I was ready to go off it. But perhaps @Noodella18 has a point about sertraline and ttc! It’s best to discuss this with your doctor.

@Marvellouslymadmum crazy that you'd not had it diagnosed before too. Good to hear you can change them, I'm just so baffled by it because it's so new to me.

@KG1145 yeah, and I think these immune system links are being spoken about and researched a lot more now but it's been overlooked for a long time.

@Noodella18 she knew I was ttc, so I doubt it's terrible for ttc as such but as an anxious sort I think I'll address it when I see her in 3 weeks time. I might take the one she's given me for now and see how I get on. Expectations of conceiving are through the floor so I'm not too worried about taking it now, more if I can achieve a pregnancy.

Thank you @KG1145. Yes Tommy’s are an amazing charity and very helpful. I lost my first baby at 26 wks in 2019 and they were so supportive. I’m glad you were able to get in touch with them. Fingers crossed for you and your CB digi! Xx

Good luck @KG1145 !

@thislittlebird I'd be surprised if the specialist prescribed citalopram if it wasn't suitable whilst pregnant. Can you maybe call and leave a message to check either way?

@KG1145 thank you! That's great to know about the Tommy's midwife! It's very odd that they didn't test progesterone it's one of the first ones they did for me.
🤞🏻 for darker lines on the next tests!

@KG1145 good luck for the digi 🍀 praying this all works out for you 🙏

[quote thislittlebird]@KG1145 This is the book:
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00VGJMAHA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o02?psc=1&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&ie=UTF8

So far it's really interesting and really highlights how much our gut does, how much it's connected and how influential it is but also how overlooked it is in every way really. Really interesting stuff.

Love the story on how you met @Marvellouslymadmum

Sorry to hear about your likely CP @Fredsmama[/quote]
Thanks for the link. It looks really interesting. I had sepsis a few years ago and it really knocked my immune system for a while after. I've heard that a huge part of your immune system is controlled by the gut, fascinating stuff really.

[quote Loladoodle]@KG1145 did you do a digi yet? Maybe that would help now that af is due and levels should be high enough for a digi now? Or can you ask Gp to do blood test for levels so that you can start taking progesterone?[/quote]
I haven't done any tests today. I've got one frer one left so will test with that I'm the morning. I've ordered a CB digital today and 30 (🙊) cheapies from amazon... They were only 10p more so why not! 😬 Not sure I'll be able to hold my fmu in until the amazon order arrives although I'm tempted to try 😂

@marvellouslymadmum hope you fell better soon!

No didn't get tested for progesterone at all. I would have thought given all the blood tests I had done that would have been a basic one tbh. I also spoke to a Tommys midwife today, who was lovely by the way. I phoned not really expecting anyone to pick up, when she did I surprised myself by bursting into tears and sobbing to her down the phone. She talked me through the progesterone studies and also the gluten. She was so knowledgable! Anyway she said I could have a progesterone test now but it probably wouldn't be that helpful at this stage.

If anyone has any concerns about CP and MC I'd definitely recommend Tommy's. You can ring a midwife direct on a free phone number

@Twelvestars prior to my 5yo ds being born I always had 23 day cycles my whole life (conceived with short cycles 3 times- 1 of which was a mmc). But since ds and probably from taking b6 50mg I have had 25-28 day cycles but one random cycle last month was 22 days. Have you tried b6? I’ve taken it for years and it’s so good for my pms, energy, pre af spotting as well as slightly lengthening LP/cycles. @selina37 yes I am still banging on about b6! Haha!!

@thislittlebird I would do that, you can change over from one to another ok.
Yes it's very frustrating, I've had it since I was 2 wasn't even diagnosed as asthma until I was 6 then when my son got ill at 7 months he was put under and consultant paediatrician who diagnosed him with severe brittle asthma as he was so bad and I then asked if that's what I had and after checking up on my notes it is! It was really scary with him

@Noodella18 citalopram! Your one is the one I've heard is "better" for ttc but I don't know how true that is if I'm honest, I just saw it while googling around and now having read your full message I see you're saying the same thing lol. The thing is, I'm pretty clueless about anti-anxiety meds, I don't know if I can switch, stop, start, change and so on. Maybe I can take the citalopram and then ask my dermatologist about prescribing the other one when I see her next.

@Marvellouslymadmum I've never heard of brittle asthma until now, and I have asthma. It sounds unusual and frustrating.

@Twelvestars yes it's a bit of a nightmare but we are obviously used to it now and for the most part under control which is good.

My partner was changed over to citalopram from something else a few years ago and nd it didn't help but has been on setraline for a few months now and finding that a lot better so far