Magic dust for 2021 5month+ crew continued

Sorry been a hectic few days, having a wee tea and a chance to catch up now!

@Lynne425 Aw you really have been through it, I'm so glad you had your surgery and it went ok! Here's hoping AF arrives before you know it ❤️❤️

@Rose2108 This sounds fantastic that you've got an appointment scheduled in and some new things to implement over the next six weeks! Here's hoping this has been what you're needing and you'll have that BFP in no time! :) I hope your husband feels positive about having an SA, since you're having an appointment you could word it as you both doing these things together and seeing where you're both at?

@AKcheer How are you feeling? Here's hoping AF doesn't arrive for you next week and this is the month! Yeah, AF did arrive and I'm on CD3 now.

@JLP256 Aw thank you 💕 I appreciate that. I also totally understand how you're feeling - it's very conflicting as you're so happy for them but the longing to have it yourself can feel really upsetting. My sister had a 4D scan at 35 weeks today and I was so happy and so sad all at once! How are you in yourself? What day are you on?

My partner got a call today to say the doctor would like a phone appointment to discuss his SA results tomorrow. Feel sick at the thought of it being bad news since she wants a phone appointment 😭 Trying to hold out hope it's just standard practice though and maybe everything is ok. Still don't have my bloods back!

Trying temping for the forest time this cycle, not sure how I'll get on with it 😂 but willing to give ANYTHING a go haha xx

Hey All

Thought I'd update you all - had my surgery this morning so glad that I know it's finally over!!

Now time to go home and chill for a day or two and then try to get back to normal!!

Waiting game of when my next period will be - unlike you all I'm wanting it to come so I can then get back in the game ❤️

Hope your all ok xxx

Hey @8LPS - I am going to get my 21 day bloods done 6 days past ovulation too, I think that will be fine to measure the progesterone levels. I have booked off a Fri/Mon in March too, hoping the weather will be a nit nicer so I can spend some time sorting out the garden! Getting ready for Spring! Yay new cycle for you... deep breaths !!

@AKcheer - Ovusense is a BBT device that you put in your lady bits before going to sleep. It tracks BBT throughout the night so you can pinpoint your exact ovulation. If you know when you ovulate it is not needed but recommended for people who have irregular cycles! How is your exercise going? Hopefully gyms will be open soon!!

@JLP256 Oh how lovely, congrats on the new pad! Definitely a welcome distraction. I dug out my old Nintendo DS and have been doing that brain training! Trying to not go crazy in the v.v.v.long evenings...

So ladies when I called about the fertility treatment the lady was really nice. It is £190 for the initial consultation, and she said it would be in our interest to get the bloods & SA done first with NHS before confirming an appointment. She also said it would be really helpful to have six full months of charts (as I have opted to do BBT charting), as this will help the Dr to assess patterns and identify any problems, rather than sending me away to go and do that for a few months. I have pencilled in an appointment for 01 April, as that will allow us to have everything we need. I could have had one sooner but felt this was a good time and something to work towards. I really want to lose a little more weight before then too.

Randomly, I came across this website: naturalfertilityexpert.com/fertility-question-time-bbt-charts/, and went down a bit of a rabbit hole reading his materials and listening to his webinar on BBT! It was sooo interesting because chart #3 (long follicular phase) looks EXACTLY like my chart, like it could have been taken from my app. His works are based on Chinese medicine which I know a lot of people don't believe it, but what he said in my case is that my chart would indicate I have a progesterone deficiency (as I suspected) which is all to do with a lack of good quality blood and flood flow; ovaries are not being nourished enough, body is retaining heat etc.

The instructions to help this is to eat blood enriching foods (like dark leafy veg, beetroots or red meats), exercise more to help with blood circulation, and lose/gain weight as needed. So I am going to adopt these three things over the next six weeks! It doesn't mean at all that you cannot conceive! But might be one of the reasons it is taking a little longer.

So... my next task is to raise SA with my husband... Not sure how he will take this... Is it a bit of a bruise to his manhood to suggest this?!

Evening ladies! 💕
I’m going to book my Day 21 bloods tomorrow and I’ve narrowed my possible ovulation day to either 4th March (6 days after O day) or 5th March. Would it be a massive problem if I just got it done on 4th March just to be safe?? It’s just a guessing game for me and honestly I’m convinced that it’s all not completely accurate anyway! Please let me know what you think, I’d really appreciate it 🙂

@KerryW87 - wow good for you! Hope you enjoyed your V day meal when you eventually got it! Unfortunately for us, Pasta Evangelists didn’t end up delivering our order! This is going to sound so bad but I can’t actually remember what we had instead?! 🙈 omg that’s terrible!
(Lol I just asked DH and we had leftovers from the day before - no wonder it wasn’t memorable 😂)
I TOTALLY understand how you feel - I cut out all caffeine and alcohol unless I have AF, and even then I’ll only have one or two coffees/drinks! It’s so annoying that we’re all making so much effort and it isn’t even helping 😐 but time will tell though. We have such a short window that this can happen, that what we’re doing might actually be helping, but the odds are just small. Hopefully you will be able to conceive again - it happened once and it was a success when J was born, so it can happen again ☺️

@Rose2108 - that’s great your hubby is driving DTD! It sometimes feels like it’s only us that drive it cus we know all the dates etc so I bet it was a welcome change! lol it’s hard not to make my DH feel like he has to do what he’s told, but it’s just the way it has to happen! 🙈
Your V day sounds a lot like how mine went - and it sounds absolutely lovely! We love a good card/board game here... it’s something different to watching TV isn’t it!?
Omg I was literally thinking the exact same thing as you the other day about WFH! I ended up booking a couple of days off in a couple of weeks time so I can have a long weekend.
Apparently you ovulate 12-36 hours after peak!
I’ve just finished AF so it’s a new cycle for me!

@AKcheer - yes, it really is so bloody annoying and frustrating! It also really doesn’t help when my PMS symptoms seem to change or be different every single month recently!!! But actually, I’ve just thought - I wonder if it’s the Seven Seas tablets that is making this happen?? If I remember right, did you say you also take Seven Seas?? How are you doing yourself? Whereabouts are you in your cycle?

@JLP256 - welcome back! Hope everything is going ok with the move, I know it can be stressful but it sounds like it helped to keep your mind occupied! 🙂

Hi everyone! I’ve tried to keep myself busy with work and house move stuff for a few days so have been quiet on here, just catching up!

@Rose2108 I have also just booked in for tests at a clinic near me! We’ve been talking about it for few months and after the last AF decided to just go for it to hopefully put our minds at rest. When is your appointment?

@KerryW87 how are you? Have you tested today? And you are not being dramatic at all, TTC can be a horrible rollercoaster! Sending lots of positivity your way 💕

@AKcheer hope your husband’s tests went ok!

@Lynne425 so sorry about everything you have been going through :( hope you are feeling ok x

I’m sure I’ve missed loads but hope you are all doing ok. My sister in law had a baby 2 weeks ago and my sister had her second yesterday. Genuinely excited about both but there’s a teeny twinge of sadness deep down because we started trying around the same time. Feeling mostly positive though and I think having the first tests booked takes the pressure off a bit!

@Lynne425 I wonder why it hasn't happened naturally, fingers crossed something happens before but as you say, it is just this week to get through isn't it, March will be better and brighter for you.

@KerryW87 this is always the hardest time, I always feel down in the dumps when you just know AF will be here soon. Fingers crossed there is a positive reason you are late....

Yeah so I take vitamin C anyway, but now also take Omega3, and Vitamin B complex (aswell as the agnus castus I have been taking to help regulate my cycle). Too soon to see confirmed results but the fact I ovulated on CD18 is good! Last month it was day 23!

@AKcheer I am due Weds too, spotting will probably come on Mon/Tues. I am pretty sure it was a peak, and I tested the following day and it had gone back to a negative test so it must have happened, if you know what I mean. Also my temp has risen for 3 days now, so I must have ovulated or it would be hovering around the base temp.

Well I think I am 3dpo, and have really sharp stabbing cramps in my lower abdomen on one side. Not sure what is going on, I know it can't be pregnancy related really because it is too soon, but it kind of made me think I have nothing to lose and have booked a private fertility appt. They do one of those check-ups on your eggs, your tubes, etc so I think at this stage whilst we are still excited and not yet desperate, it would be a good idea to be pro-active and just check all is okay. I have a weird niggling feeling that something isn't right, but I don't know what it is! I am also thinking about investing in an ovusense... I think I need a bit more help with pinpointing when I actually ovulate and have read very good things! But will wait for my appointment xx

@AKcheer Ahh here's hoping your husband's bloods come back soon then! Still waiting on my partner's SA results and my blood results, if we're not all waiting for ovulation or waiting to test we're now waiting for results. We'll all have the patience of saints 😂🙈 Ah I really hope it doesn't arrive for you Tuesday then! How many DPO do you think you are now?

Yeah I did and it was completely blank! Cramps are really ramping up so I'm hoping it'll appear today at some point. Had a big teary meltdown yesterday about it, just need to sort myself out and be positive for this cycle! 🤞💕 Let's hope we're all due these BFPs very soon, we have been MORE than patient haha. I know, dreading doing it but it's the last thing I've got left to try so we'll see how it goes 😂🤷🏻‍♀️ xx

Hi @Rose2108! Ah I'm excited for you, here's hoping this is your cycle!🤞 Did you look into any of the sort of vitamins/supplements that might lengthen your luteal phase? I LOVE your fresh outlook, I need to try that too! 💕

Aw thank you, AF due today but hasn't arrived yet! Never usually late and I ovulated on CD13 and 13dpo now so not sure what the hold up is...stark white tests so just hoping AF arrives soon and cycle 8 can begin! I bought a BBT, going to attempt temping this month but can see it being a shambles! 😂

Morning @Rose2108

So the medical management didn't work so I am now booked in to get an MVA on Thursday morning unless anything happens before hand!!

So at least I know by the end of the week it'll be over 💕

Then I'll be on the waiting game for AF to come back

So I'm looking at this week being positive and can put it behind me xx

Morning ladies; hope you are all okay?

I am officially in the TWW now, though for me it is more like the 8 day wait! ... Not ideal, but miracles do happen!

How are you @KerryW87, I think AF is due around now? Hope you are okay, I know this must be so stressful and difficult for you.

@Lynne425 Any update? Hope you get better medical advise this week.

@8LPS Did you book your day 21 bloods? They are supposed to be 7 days after ovulation; I am going on Friday.

Deep breaths everyone.... It is mad how long it feels like we have been TTC, but it also seems to go so quickly. I started the new year with a fresh outlook and I am pretending this is our second cycle haha. Even though it it our ninth or something!! xxx

Morning morning! I feel like I had such a nice weekend! I need to book some time off work, sitting here WFH is doing my head in, like groundhog day...

Thanks @AKcheer, rooting for you this month too! The race against your sister in law, lol! I totally forgot about the pineapple!!

So my BBT chart has moved my ovulation to Thursday (CD 16), based on my increase in temp since then. This was the day I got the peak test just before bed. However, when you get your peak, your ovulation is about 24 hours after isn't it? Also, I had alot of EWCM on Saturday, which doesn't really line up with it being on Thursday. I have manually changed my ovulation day in the app to Saturday as I think this is more accurate! I also had cramping etc then too!

I am going to go for the bloods on Friday which will be 6 days after ovulation, CD 24.

The good news is, ovulation day on CD 18 is much better than previous months at day 21, or even 23. So hopefully my new diet and vitamins is helping to give me a longer luteal phase!! Yay! AF due Weds 24 Feb, which is a luteal phase of 10 days.

When are you all due ladies?

After we DTD yesterday I was just laying in bed and my husband walked over to me and put my legs in the air and said you're supposed to sit like this hahaha! I did it for about a minute before all the blood ran out of my legs and they were like ice logs!!

Hey lovelies, thanks all for the advice on the OPK's! I actually got my peak Friday, and had so much EWCM/cramps yesterday that I'm sure it happened at some point this weekend! We DTD Weds, Fri and today (it is Valentine's Day after all 😂) so hope we covered it but probably have one final go on Tues. My hubby is actually driving it this month, he's very up for DTD every other day! I think he just wants it over with lol. He said to me earlier that he found the first few months really stressful but he's got his head round it now and is very excited for a baby, and understands the ovulation timeframe etc. It was all a bit overwhelming for us both at first!

Aw @KerryW87 I totally get it... Sorry there wasn't a line but it's early days. You know you can conceive which is amazing news and it will happen again. I said at Xmas, if I'm not pregnant by next Xmas I think I'll be depressed! Can see it creeping up on me ... ! My gap between my ovulation and AF is only 10 days.... That does worry me for an implantation 😩

@8LPS we don't do valentine's either! We used to get each other cards but didn't even bother with that this year! We cleaned the house and got pizza... Might play Scrabble... Wild times! Hoping the SA comes back as hoped, not sure when we will cross that bridge...

I feel like the last year has gone so fast but seems so slow when living it and TTC. I've only been chatting since Nov so can't really look back on what we were doing since June but the "relaxed" approach just didn't work for us sadly!

Hope you all had a lovely day today whatever you get up to. I made some cranberry and white choc oat cookies earlier and can't stop scoffing!! Xx

@Lynne425 Thank you, Lynne ❤️ I so hope so🤞I'm becoming desperate I think. We found out we were pregnant with wee J in April last year and a part of me is really scared to get to April this year and still not be pregnant...even though of course I know I have no control over that. So sorry for rambling when you've got enough to be dealing with too! That's a bloody joke that they didn't even call you?! That's awful that you'll maybe have to work through it :( So sorry, what a crap week you're having. Hopefully the takeaway and chill night will be just the trick ❤️❤️

@8LPS We were on the phone for 20 minutes trying to get a collection slot for dinner at our favourite restaurant but I was NOT giving up so we're sorted 😂 What about you? Also you're totally right, easier to plan nicer things for valentines etc when we can actually go places and do things!

Ah great, hopefully you can get your next set of bloods booked around the right time then! I know online calendars can be a bit off - until I started using OPKs it was predicting I ovulated a good few days later than I actually did! Checking the history on your app sounds like a good plan!

Haha, you might be right...I cut out alcohol and caffeine last month and fat lot of good it did me, feels like putting my life on hold when it's not even working, so maybe a wee night off and having a drink tonight is a good idea, haha. You're right, I'm so worried about the sperm test results but I hope maybe the home tests aren't as good and he's ok. Think that's what's making me feel like J was a miracle and we can't conceive again, hopefully once we get results back and if they're ok I can relax and just know it'll maybe just take time but isn't impossible. Thanks for listening to my emotional rants 😂 I appreciate it ❤️❤️

@jules5232 - really glad your scan appointment went ok!!! I can understand why you’re feeling uneasy about the spotting but I’ve heard that it’s pretty normal to spot early on in pregnancy so hopefully it’s just that, and it’s nothing to worry about! Oh that’s good your appointment has moved up, hopefully it’ll give you some reassurance that things are ok 🙂 good luck and let us know how it goes! Take as much rest as you can, you’re probably feeling shattered!

@KerryW87 - 😂 yep, no cards and no presents just seemed like the thing to do this year - it just feels a bit pointless art the mo lol might change my mind next V day though! 😁 what takeaway will you get?
So the Dr (in her message) said that I should have my first blood test anywhere in the first 7 days of my cycle - which confused me cus you guys are calling it the day 3 test... and I feel like I trust you all more than the Dr 🤣🤣 day 2 fell yesterday so I had it then. So on my (averaging) 30 day cycle I’m guessing I should be aiming to book my second appointment on day 23... I’m going to try n look on Premom app to see when I’ve been ovulating since I started using the app. I always get confused over O day cus every website I do an ovulation calculator on, the day differs by 1 or 2 days 😐
Thanks so much for explaining, really appreciate your help!!! To be fair to the Dr, she did try to call but I was on a work call at the time.. but knowing her, she probably wouldn’t have explained it very well over the phone anyway.
Oh no I’m so so sorry your pg test came out negative 😞 you’re seriously NOT being dramatic! You have a right to be upset, and it’s only right that you have some treats to help you feel better too - maybe a bit of gin will help take the sting off it 😜 if only our pg dreams had some truth to them!!! It doesn’t help when you think you’re getting signs of being pg and then they turn out to be nothing. I have a similar problem - in the second week of the TWW, I’m literally like a SUPER SCANNER on my body, analysing every little thing that I’m feeling, get my hopes up, and then they come crashing down.
I’m so sorry you’re feeling shitty, you never know what the NHS sperm test will say. Maybe some of these home tests can be inaccurate..? When did your partner send in the sperm sample and how long did they say you’d have to wait for it?
My DH has completed his NHS sperm analysis form now and they’re going to send him a home kit or something.. and he has to give take it to them within 60 minutes... in a different city! lol there won’t be any time for rest afterwards for him! 🙈😄

@Lynne425 - I hope you’re doing ok! That’s a good way of thinking about it - like AF. Wow lol ironing - you must have been desperate to get things off your mind!!! 🤣 take care of yourself 💕

Hope everybody has a lovely Valentine’s Day ♥️♥️ I’ll be having a bit of gin for us all, in hope that next month is our month xx

Morning @KerryW87

Aww please don't think like that - your time will come! If it happened once it'll happen again and that will be your little miracle 💕

Nothing had happened so it's def not worked and then the hospital didn't even call to check up on me!!
I left a message this morning saying I want a call back but don't really know what to do now! I took thurs/fri off work for no reason at all and to be honest I can't take anymore time this week as we are already short staffed, so if it does happen 'naturally' I'm just gonna have to work through! At least I'm still WFH.

Anyone got anything exciting planned for today?!
I'm just planning on sitting watching films chilling and then will get a takeaway tonight xx

@Lynne425 Anything happening? Really hope you're doing ok! ❤️

I've tried to hold out, but the past two nights I had dreams about positive pregnancy tests so tested today at 11dpo. Stark white. Knew it would be but just feel so upset and fed up. I'm so scared that because my partner's home test said his count was low that his NHS sperm analysis is going to show that we have very little chance and that it was a miracle we ever conceived with our wee boy and he was our only chance. I'm being so dramatic today, I know 😂 I'm typing this through tears and feel like a big drama queen! Just having a down day I suppose, will feel better when a new cycle begins.

Hope you're all ok and having a good weekend! ❤️

Morning All

Thanks for your messages yesterday!! Meant a lot 💕

I don't think it's worked tho as still waiting and nothing happening! Hosp said it can take up to 48 hours so literally is a waiting game but just wish it would start to get over it!

Even found myself ironing to pass the time earlier which isn't like me lol

Not to worry though - I'm looking at it like I'm just waiting for a big AF to come then move on to hopefully get my cycle back to normal!xx

@8LPS Sorry didn't read where you'd said AF had arrived! So it's your day 3 bloods today! Hope all goes well with it!

Hopefully if you know roughly how long your cycles are or you manage to catch a peak on your Clearblue OPK this cycle then you'll be able to make an appointment for roughly the right sort of time for the day 21 bloods! :)

@8LPS Hahaha, your Valentines gift to him is letting him off with that then! Feast fest sounds IDEAL, we'll probably end up doing the same and getting a nice takeaway....not really many more options these days! 😂

Is it your day 21 bloods today? If so, they should be done around 7 days afrer you ovulate as the bloods test for the levels of progesterone in your blood at that time - if you are ovulating then the levels should be above a certain point. If you're not sure when you ovulate it may be a bit trickier - based on a "normal" 28 day cycle, that would be around Day 21 which is why it's called that, but if you have longer cycles and they're roughly around 35 days for example then it would be around Day 28 you'd have the bloods done. I hope that makes sense!

Your doctor should be more helpful, they're supposed to know all this, not you! Hope it all goes ok! xx

@jules5232 Haha you're right...it's just a WHOLE lot of different types of waiting, this TTC game! Oh, that's good to know! Hopefully his results are back soon then - they're the ones we're most worried about as we did a home test before and it came back as "low" so we'll be very glad to know for sure what's going on.

Aww that's brilliant news, so glad you got a scan for some reassurance! So delighted for you, here's hoping the spotting tails off soon to ease your mind but I have read loads of posts on this where women have cramps and spotting, I think it's fairly common!