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Ttc first baby 1 year + thread 3

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orangeloo · 23/11/2020 15:07

Started new thread as precariously close to 1000 @KatBeCool @starkid @MotherOfShihTzus

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FlapJackered · 01/02/2021 17:21

Hi all!
Just popped back on to see how you're all getting on. I think about you all and keeping fingers crossed for some bfps soon!
I don't know if this is helpful but my clinic (ABC) put me on Prednisolone because of my thyroid problem and previous miscarriage. I specifically asked for it as I know the big expensive clinics in London Argc etc put all their patients on them as a matter of course and with a history of immune problems I thought it was worth a go. I can't know if it's that which did the job but I feel like it might well have been what I needed.

Best of luck for next week @starkid !🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

orangeloo · 01/02/2021 16:54

@MotherOfShihTzus I'm in the south east we get one fresh and one frozen round.

I have looked into reproductive immunology. I don't believe unexplained is a thing either. I have autoimmune thyroid so feel like there may be a link. If my nhs rounds fail. I will get tested for immune factors. I don't want to before nhs round and they will not treat it anyway as it's marked red on HFEA website. So I don't want to go in to my free goes knowing they may well fail. Although I will ask for a steroid tablet but I don't think they will give them.

I started reading 'is your baby body friendly, think the author was Alan beer. It was interesting I haven't finished it for the same reason above. I don't want to completely freak myself out and self diagnose and be on a downer for nhs rounds but he has already said that high killer cells etc don't just cause miscarriages. They can stop implantation and can be a cause of unexplained infertility- which isn't actually talked about a lot.

Sorry for long reply but I believe knowledge is power - it can also worry us for nothing haha.

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MotherOfShihTzus · 01/02/2021 16:34

The IVF postcode lottery is just awful. I am hopeful for your 2 on board though :) did you use ICSI or straight IVF or a mix? We were gonna look at a mix...

I've been researching reproductive immunology and sperm DNA fragmentation; has anyone else looked at this? I gave allergies so think there's a chance my body is attacking sperm/ embryos before implanting. It seems so hard to get the additional tests though - just feel like I want to be sure what we're dealing with before dropping so much money in treatment. I just don't believe 'unexplained' is a real thing

starkid · 01/02/2021 16:28

@MotherOfShihTzus - oh no i'm sorry to hear this, and good luck with looking into private hospitals instead.
I'm Dorset, and get 1 frech cycle and 1 frozen cycle on NHS (hence the relief to get that one frozen blastocyst!)

MotherOfShihTzus · 01/02/2021 16:25

Wow - typo in there was 'everything crossed for your 2 em-babies!' Apols!

MotherOfShihTzus · 01/02/2021 16:24

Fantastic news @starkid !! I have everything crossed for your 2 WNBA bird and must be such a relief to have the extra in the freezer :) so good to hear some positive news!

Thanks for your reply @orangeloo - I've signed up to Pilates, which I'll do weeks 1&2 of cycle- just to try and boost health / fitness.

We were AGAIN fobbed off by nhs last week; whenever I've been in touch in the last year, it's 1-2 months away til I'll be contacted. I was assured it would be early January, and again, now they're saying March/ April! So we've bitten the bullet and started the ball rolling on private care. Even if we just get some embryos frozen for future, it at least feels like we're doing something!

What geographical areas is everyone else in? We're in Wales so should get 2x nhs cycles... if it ever happens!!

orangeloo · 01/02/2021 15:51

@starkid absolutely. Ah bless you. I hope the rest goes quicker for you and you. X

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starkid · 01/02/2021 14:50

@orangeloo - Painful! Another week to go, it's dragggggging! And yes I'm really pleased we managed to freeze one, even though the embryologist said it might affect the chances, with it being frozen on day 7, but still worth having one just in case!

orangeloo · 01/02/2021 14:37

@starkid ah I see thank u for explaining. Pleased you got that one in the freezer too. How is the tww treating you?

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starkid · 01/02/2021 13:56

@orangeloo - so out of the 6 eggs fertlised, on day 3 they were mostly low grade or low in number of cells. So they transferred both the 7-cell b grade embryo, and 8-cell b minus grade embryos as they weren't sure if any more would get to the next stage. And I wanted to just give it the best shot possible of getting pregnant, especially if there wouldn't be any in the freezer and not sure what's going on with clinics and covid in the future again. Plus would have to pay next time as opposed to NHS.
But then on day 7 they finally got one of the other 4 eggs to the correct stage of blastocyst/right number cells and a good grade so froze it! :)
So if these 2 fail, I have that one in the freezer for one more go on the nhs.

orangeloo · 01/02/2021 13:47

@starkid ah that's great news! Fingers crossed for your two stickies! Can I ask how the decision came about that they transferred 2? X

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starkid · 29/01/2021 11:14

So another update: On monday they transferred two day 3 grade b/b- embryos. Will have a pregnancy blood test Feb 8th Smile

Then today the clinic rang and on day 7, they managed to freeze a grade a/b blastocyst! Grin It was a slow grower and yesterday the cells on the outside didn't look the right number even though it was a blastocyst, so they left it one more day and it now looks really good apparently.

Such a weight off my chest knowing we still have one in the freezer in case this cycle fails, and don't have to spend thousands and go through quite as much drama right away, as where I am we're only given one fresh and one frozen cycle on the nhs.

orangeloo · 23/01/2021 16:47

@starkid that's a great result. Fingers crossed for your little embabies!

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starkid · 23/01/2021 14:51

Hi guys, just an update my end. I had egg collection yesterday, and from my ten follicles they got 7 eggs, six of which I was told this morning have fertilised ☺️ so now to wait till Monday morning to see how they get on after brewing over the weekend, to see if transfer will be Monday or Wednesday. Fingers crossed for maybe 3-4 good quality embryos 🤞

orangeloo · 23/01/2021 12:07

@MotherOfShihTzus hey, sorry if we've had this conversation before but have you had your thyroid checked? Underactive can make it near impossible to loose weight despite best efforts. If you haven't get it done ASAP.

If thyroid is fine I would not want to be too much in a calorie deficit and would carry on being healthy with just light exercise for the time your ttc.

Or if your ivf is still far away and you don't think it will happen naturally for you maybe go abit intense for a short time but I would want to leave at least a couple of months before staring IVF for my body to prepare without intense diet or exercise.

Obviously I'm no professional this is just my opinion. X

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MotherOfShihTzus · 22/01/2021 14:41

Hey ladies,

How is everyone getting on? I had a question whom I don't have anyone to ask as Olin not yet with the clinic for so wondered if you ladies had a view?

My BMI is 27.6 which is over-weight, but won't stop me progressing with treatment. This is 1-2 stone heavier than my typical weight (the stress of this journey maybe?!). Anyway, I've been struggling to lose weight, despite eating extremely healthily in a calorie deficit, and getting my 10k steps a day.
Do you think my chances of pregnancy will improve more whether I:

A) continue eating healthily at c. 1400 cals a day, getting all the nutrients
B) increase my calorie deficit, but likely lose some nutrients - eating less of the stuff that's good for me?

I want to exercise more, but all the advice says to avoid high impact movements so that's out of the qu.

I just don't know what would be best in terms of getting pregnant / ivf working. I must have some sort of hormone issue to not be losing, given my diet!

Sorry this is so long!

orangeloo · 14/01/2021 16:40

@MotherOfShihTzus oh gosh. That is such a long time you poor thing. I really hope you get seen v soon!

Yes I should have appointment end of feb ish. If it's not the planning appointment it will be one before it. Such a relief to finally feel I'm finally getting close.

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MotherOfShihTzus · 14/01/2021 16:17

Hey @orangeloo I'm a bit behind you ladies. I feel your pain on the waiting; I was referred to ivf clinic 15 months ago and I'm still not a priority it seems! We're now over 3 years trying and feeling like you - every cycle I feel my chances reduce. I called yesterday and they said they'd be contacting me any time now... but heard it all before. Had an additional hysto on 24th Dec, apparently my fibroids aren't causing issues so hopefully I can progress with the ivf once they call. Any luck with your clinic recently?

So sorry to hear that @KatBeCool look after yourself and hopefully you can try again?

Good luck on stims @starkid - you're so close!

orangeloo · 14/01/2021 14:53

@starkid yea indeed :) thank you.

I'm glad stims aren't too bad. Good luck for scan tomorrow fx for some lovely follicles!

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starkid · 14/01/2021 14:47

@orangeloo - that's great news! Onwards and upwards now :)

Stims seem fine, on day 5 of them and my hot flushes have stopped and acne cleared up, and getting lots of ewcm and the occasional headache/nausea but not much. So a scan tomorrow to see how they're working so far :)

orangeloo · 14/01/2021 14:47

@MotherOfShihTzus how are you getting on?

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orangeloo · 14/01/2021 14:45

Finally had some good news on Monday. Funding was approved - can back same day and done with the rubbish hospital. Now under new one only and they said I should have an appointment end of feb ish which is a lot quicker than I thought. Felt so relieved and weight off my shoulders not to have to keep chasing and banging my head against a wall.

How are stims treating you @starkid ?

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orangeloo · 11/01/2021 09:47

@starkid I'm moving clinic already which has been half of the problem. The original nhs hospital I went through all the initials then they said due to the way they are sharing patients out atm I won't fall under them and had to move. I would like IVf where I'm going it's just the old hospital getting everything together and messing me around.
I know I risk sounding ungrateful but yes it's just awful all the waiting. I got referred from My GP in august and have wanted to have a baby for years and now been trying for years. I'm just not sure how much more waiting I can take.

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starkid · 11/01/2021 09:38

@orangeloo - the waiting is the worst as it's like wasted months/cycles. Is there any way to apply for the NHS funding at a different clinic maybe, see what the wait times there are?
I didn't have many side effects on the down red drugs except hot flushes and acne so fingers crossed I don't get many again!

orangeloo · 11/01/2021 09:14

@KatBeCool I'm so sorry to hear that. Was really hoping for you. FX for the letrozole.

Oh yes definitely, I'm not taking it. As you say I don't know it's origins and I know it should be taken under medical supervision also.

@starkid glad your lining was okay and congrats on starting stims. Hopefully you won't get many side effects although we all know we'll take side effects that get us closer to our goal.

I saw a post that people at my clinic who had appointments in September weren't starting IVF until March. They haven't even requested my funding yet so I don't know what that will mean for me time wise. Had a little cry and was really stressed on Friday DP said to look into private but it's a stretch for money and we don't want to do it if it will only be a couple months difference In The wait times. Also very conscious that if it doesn't work obviously then we will need to pay again. I feel I've been waiting forever already and the waiting is really getting to me. I know we are lucky to have nhs funding option but the whole process has been terribly slow and very stressful in itself as they have been so disorganised. I have some phone calls to make this week and I hope things will become clearer.

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